Early MacBook comparisons

2011-08-19 Thread Cliff Rediger
As per my interest in upgrading to the Intel world
while retaining PPC capability,
I've decided to look for a MacBook for improved video card (over Mini)
and portability.

So, I've been looking at  13 A1181(early)
   15 A1175
   17 A1151

When I eBay search on these, a substantially different number of hits
come up for each model. More for 13, less for 17. Mostly batteries
and parts, of course.

One might presume that this difference points to number of units
originally sold,
but just to check:

I'm wondering if those who work with these things daily, might comment
comparatively on the
relative durability, or any know service issues for these earlier
MacBooks.

Thank you
Cliff

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Re: Early MacBook comparisons

2011-08-19 Thread Cliff Rediger
 On Aug 19, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote:
comment comparatively on the relative durability, or any know service issues 
for these earlier MacBooks.
On Aug 19, 1:54 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
 IMO, I would not consider a Core Duo Macbook or Macbook pro at all. If you're 
 upgrading to Intel, there's no sense in upgrading to something that's already 
 obsolete.
  They had a longer lifespan than the Mac IIvx, but not a lot...you definitely 
 want one of the latter Core 2 Duo ones. They accept more RAM, they're faster, 
 and they're Lion compatible. (and work quiote well with Lion, we're using one 
 right now as a testbed system)
 Metal wears better than plastic, mostly. We had a bunch of pharmacy residents 
 who got 13 MacBooks of that vintage, and after a few years they were pretty 
 beat up, lots of cracks and bits missing from the case.

That's good advise Bruce,
Maybe I need to drop my PPC fixation (read fear of change and expense)
and leap ahead into the new world?

Cliff

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Re: Early MacBook comparisons

2011-08-19 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Aug 19, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote:

 That's good advise Bruce,
 Maybe I need to drop my PPC fixation (read fear of change and expense)
 and leap ahead into the new world?

Based on my experience with the intel macs at my disposal, yeah, I'd go for the 
newest one I could scrape the money together for, and that's not all that 
expensive...new MacBook Airs are only $1100, and are, simply put, astonishing 
values for the money, and that's putting downward pricing pressure on all the 
used ones.

Even an older 2 or 2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo is going to seem like a screaming 
performance monster moving up from a PPC mac.

I just resurrected a 17 2.4 Ghz one (MBP with a bad LCD + an hour careful 
fiddling to replace the LCD, gave me a 17 MBP for $375...) and it feels orders 
of magnitude faster than my old top of the line PPC PowerBook.

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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: Early MacBook comparisons

2011-08-19 Thread irrational John
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Cliff Rediger
redicl...@thecriticalcrab.net wrote:
 I've decided to look for a MacBook for improved video card (over Mini)
 and portability.

What you want to look at also depends on what you mean by improved video.

While the video in the early MacBooks was mostly good enough, the
Intel integrated video is was never more than mostly adequate. (At
least until the recent HD 3000 if what I read is correct.)

I have an early 2008 white MacBook and I'm happy with it UNTIL I watch
something that uses Flash video. At that point  the fan noise usually
becomes annoying due to the extra demand placed on the CPU. While I
don't know that the discrete NVIDIA video used in later MacBooks would
perform any better, I'd still suggest going that route if you can
rather than getting an older MacBook which uses Intel's integrated
video.

FWIW,

-irrational john

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Firewire 400 not working in G5 PowerMac

2011-08-19 Thread Dan Stobbs
Greetings all :+)

I've just acquired my first G5: a 1.8GHz with 1GB of memory.  It came with
10.4 installed on an 80GB drive, and I put in a 500GB drive, and installed
10.5 on to it (my first SATA experience - went very smoothly) via Firewire
800 from one of my MirrorDoors, which came with a Time machine drive with
Leopard on it.
Both OS'es are fully updated.

Lovely machine apart from a bent back leg, so it has had a fall in its
history (probably why only two of us bid on it, and I got it for a
reasonable price!)
Gorgeous design statement although not as upgradeable, hardware-wise as the
MirrorDoors. But I digress.

All went well, but when I tried running my Firewire speakers, they lit up
but when I looked at System profiler, it showed only the Firewire 800 bus as
being present.
I tried resetting PRAM and then NVRAM with no change.

But wait,  I have Firewire cards,  I thought. The first one wouldn't fit:
seems I now have a Mac with PCI-x slots!  However I had a brand new 800/400
card that went in nicely, and now when I look in System Profiler I have two
firewire 800 channels listed, but still no Firewire 400!

My firmware seems to be up to date.

On the positive side, I now have 2 more FW800 ports, and I can connect my
external DVD drives via 400/800 adapter leads.

Is the FW400 on the motherboard FUBAR'ed and would this mean it would not
recognise the FW400 'bits' of the card?
 From memory,  disk utility knew my 1st gen iPod was connected, even though
it wasn't showing on the desktop, .

Hoping y'all can cast a little inSight on this
Dan.

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