Re: 10.3 doesn¹t see newer HD?

2011-09-15 Thread Clark Martin

On Sep 15, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:

> Il giorno 15-09-2011 15:06, Geke ha scritto:
> 
>> So I connected a G4 Mac (Snakebite) in target mode to use its DVD
>> drive.
> AFAIK, Target mode only connect hard drives; never heard (and never seen
> myself) about optical drives showing up.

It does although I have heard some anecdotal information that some models don't.

But I've definitely used TDM to use  the optical drive in a machine for another 
machine that doesn't have an adequate optical drive.


>> If this isn’t possible, I plan to Carbon-copy the DVD onto an external
>> HD with a Firewire port, then do the install with that HD connected to
>> the iBook. I hope that’ll work at least...
> I think going "external" is the only way for installing.
> Either the external HD, or an external DVD player...

I've used a copy of the installer disk on a harddrive several times to do an 
install.

> 
> Another option would be cloning an OSX disk/partition (using CCC) onto the
> iBook HD in Target mode.
> I copied my PM G4 OSX partition onto a PowerBook G4 and a PM G5, and it has
> always worked.
> Might not be the best way, but it usually works... ;-)

Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

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Re: 10.3 doesn't see newer HD?

2011-09-15 Thread Kris Tilford

On Sep 15, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:


Il giorno 15-09-2011 15:06, Geke ha scritto:


So I connected a G4 Mac (Snakebite) in target mode to use its DVD
drive.
AFAIK, Target mode only connect hard drives; never heard (and never  
seen

myself) about optical drives showing up.


Optical drives on the built-in ATA bus do mount discs in Target Disk  
Mode.



BTW, what is a "Snakebite"? :-o
Never heard such model


MacTracker says it's a dual 500MHz Gigabit Ethernet.

But the iBook doesn’t see the DVD or the boot drive in the G4, it  
sees

only the second HD in there, the original one with OS 9 installed.

Not seeing the first HD is odd.
Is is connected in unusual ways? (PCi card, SCSI...)
Is it bigger than 128GB?


Bad cable or cable disconnected?

If this isn’t possible, I plan to Carbon-copy the DVD onto an  
external
HD with a Firewire port, then do the install with that HD connected  
to

the iBook. I hope that’ll work at least...

I think going "external" is the only way for installing.
Either the external HD, or an external DVD player...

Another option would be cloning an OSX disk/partition (using CCC)  
onto the

iBook HD in Target mode.
I copied my PM G4 OSX partition onto a PowerBook G4 and a PM G5, and  
it has

always worked.
Might not be the best way, but it usually works... ;-)


Boot the SnakeBite from the DVD and attach the iBook in Target Disk  
Mode and install directly onto the iBook HD.


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Re: 10.3 doesn¹t see newer HD?

2011-09-15 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 15-09-2011 15:06, Geke ha scritto:

> So I connected a G4 Mac (Snakebite) in target mode to use its DVD
> drive.
AFAIK, Target mode only connect hard drives; never heard (and never seen
myself) about optical drives showing up.

BTW, what is a "Snakebite"? :-o
Never heard such model

> But the iBook doesn¹t see the DVD or the boot drive in the G4, it sees
> only the second HD in there, the original one with OS 9 installed.
Not seeing the first HD is odd.
Is is connected in unusual ways? (PCi card, SCSI...)
Is it bigger than 128GB?

> If this isn¹t possible, I plan to Carbon-copy the DVD onto an external
> HD with a Firewire port, then do the install with that HD connected to
> the iBook. I hope that¹ll work at least...
I think going "external" is the only way for installing.
Either the external HD, or an external DVD player...

Another option would be cloning an OSX disk/partition (using CCC) onto the
iBook HD in Target mode.
I copied my PM G4 OSX partition onto a PowerBook G4 and a PM G5, and it has
always worked.
Might not be the best way, but it usually works... ;-)

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Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?

2011-09-15 Thread Jörg Duurkoop
Hi everybody,

I found it! It was there right in front of my eyes, "Enable Nap" ...

Thanx a lot! I love this community.

Kind regards, Jörg.


On 15 sep, 21:23, Jörg Duurkoop  wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
>
> I found CHUD here:
>
> http://www.s155158671.websitehome.co.uk/downloadsaqua-ma.html
>
> But how do I use one of the apps to switch one of my CPUs temporarily
> off? In the Hardware Tools folder I found only Reggie SE and
> SpindownHD. The Release Notes mention an app called Hardware
> Preferences which should do the job but it's not in the CHUD folder.
>
> TIA for your reply.
>
> Best regards, Jörg.
>
> On 14 sep, 15:52, brchrnr  wrote:
>
> > CHUD Tools 3.5.2 is the last version to support the nap mode/ single
> > cpu. Apple has removed that version (and earlier ones) from the
> > developer site. I did a quick search and couldn't find a download
> > available, but there might be...
>
> > The control panel behaved erratically in Leopard for me; works best in
> > Tiger. But still needs to be switched back to single cpu after waking
> > from sleep mode. There is extensive discussion of CHUD Tools and
> > MDD's; just google it.
>
> > Bruce Horner
>
> > On Sep 13, 7:44 pm, "Tina K."  wrote:
>
> > > On 2011/09/13 17:34, Jörg Duurkoop so eloquently wrote:
>
> > > > Where can I get this control panel to switch my MDD Dual to single CPU
> > > > mode? I often listen to music from my harddisks and don't like the
> > > > constantly changing fan noise at all.
>
> > > > Before I upgraded my single processor MDD 1.25 with a dual CPU board
> > > > the fans were much quieter - but the YouTube videos quite choppy ...
>
> > > I believe it is in the Developer Tools for the given OS.
>
> > > Tina
>
> > > --
>
> > > iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11
> > > PB G4 15" HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8
> > > Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8
>
>

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Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?

2011-09-15 Thread Jörg Duurkoop
Hi everybody,

I found it! It was there right in front of my eyes, "Enable Nap" ...

Thanx a lot! I love this community.

Kind regards, Jörg.


On 15 sep, 21:23, Jörg Duurkoop  wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
>
> I found CHUD here:
>
> http://www.s155158671.websitehome.co.uk/downloadsaqua-ma.html
>
> But how do I use one of the apps to switch one of my CPUs temporarily
> off? In the Hardware Tools folder I found only Reggie SE and
> SpindownHD. The Release Notes mention an app called Hardware
> Preferences which should do the job but it's not in the CHUD folder.
>
> TIA for your reply.
>
> Best regards, Jörg.
>
> On 14 sep, 15:52, brchrnr  wrote:
>
> > CHUD Tools 3.5.2 is the last version to support the nap mode/ single
> > cpu. Apple has removed that version (and earlier ones) from the
> > developer site. I did a quick search and couldn't find a download
> > available, but there might be...
>
> > The control panel behaved erratically in Leopard for me; works best in
> > Tiger. But still needs to be switched back to single cpu after waking
> > from sleep mode. There is extensive discussion of CHUD Tools and
> > MDD's; just google it.
>
> > Bruce Horner
>
> > On Sep 13, 7:44 pm, "Tina K."  wrote:
>
> > > On 2011/09/13 17:34, Jörg Duurkoop so eloquently wrote:
>
> > > > Where can I get this control panel to switch my MDD Dual to single CPU
> > > > mode? I often listen to music from my harddisks and don't like the
> > > > constantly changing fan noise at all.
>
> > > > Before I upgraded my single processor MDD 1.25 with a dual CPU board
> > > > the fans were much quieter - but the YouTube videos quite choppy ...
>
> > > I believe it is in the Developer Tools for the given OS.
>
> > > Tina
>
> > > --
>
> > > iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11
> > > PB G4 15" HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8
> > > Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8
>
>

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Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?

2011-09-15 Thread Jörg Duurkoop
Hi Bruce,

I found CHUD here:

http://www.s155158671.websitehome.co.uk/downloadsaqua-ma.html

But how do I use one of the apps to switch one of my CPUs temporarily
off? In the Hardware Tools folder I found only Reggie SE and
SpindownHD. The Release Notes mention an app called Hardware
Preferences which should do the job but it's not in the CHUD folder.

TIA for your reply.

Best regards, Jörg.

On 14 sep, 15:52, brchrnr  wrote:
> CHUD Tools 3.5.2 is the last version to support the nap mode/ single
> cpu. Apple has removed that version (and earlier ones) from the
> developer site. I did a quick search and couldn't find a download
> available, but there might be...
>
> The control panel behaved erratically in Leopard for me; works best in
> Tiger. But still needs to be switched back to single cpu after waking
> from sleep mode. There is extensive discussion of CHUD Tools and
> MDD's; just google it.
>
> Bruce Horner
>
> On Sep 13, 7:44 pm, "Tina K."  wrote:
>
> > On 2011/09/13 17:34, Jörg Duurkoop so eloquently wrote:
>
> > > Where can I get this control panel to switch my MDD Dual to single CPU
> > > mode? I often listen to music from my harddisks and don't like the
> > > constantly changing fan noise at all.
>
> > > Before I upgraded my single processor MDD 1.25 with a dual CPU board
> > > the fans were much quieter - but the YouTube videos quite choppy ...
>
> > I believe it is in the Developer Tools for the given OS.
>
> > Tina
>
> > --
>
> > iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11
> > PB G4 15" HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8
> > Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8
>
>

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Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?

2011-09-15 Thread Jörg Duurkoop
Hi Bruce,

I found CHUD here:

http://www.s155158671.websitehome.co.uk/downloadsaqua-ma.html

But how do I use one of the apps to switch one of my CPUs temporarily
off? In the Hardware Tools folder I found only Reggie SE and
SpindownHD. The Release Notes mention an app called Hardware
Preferences which should do the job but it's not in the CHUD folder.

TIA for your reply.

Best regards, Jörg.

On 14 sep, 15:52, brchrnr  wrote:
> CHUD Tools 3.5.2 is the last version to support the nap mode/ single
> cpu. Apple has removed that version (and earlier ones) from the
> developer site. I did a quick search and couldn't find a download
> available, but there might be...
>
> The control panel behaved erratically in Leopard for me; works best in
> Tiger. But still needs to be switched back to single cpu after waking
> from sleep mode. There is extensive discussion of CHUD Tools and
> MDD's; just google it.
>
> Bruce Horner
>
> On Sep 13, 7:44 pm, "Tina K."  wrote:
>
> > On 2011/09/13 17:34, Jörg Duurkoop so eloquently wrote:
>
> > > Where can I get this control panel to switch my MDD Dual to single CPU
> > > mode? I often listen to music from my harddisks and don't like the
> > > constantly changing fan noise at all.
>
> > > Before I upgraded my single processor MDD 1.25 with a dual CPU board
> > > the fans were much quieter - but the YouTube videos quite choppy ...
>
> > I believe it is in the Developer Tools for the given OS.
>
> > Tina
>
> > --
>
> > iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11
> > PB G4 15" HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8
> > Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8
>
>

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10.3 doesn’t see newer HD?

2011-09-15 Thread Geke
I’m trying to install 10.4 on an iBook G3 running 10.3.
It’s the first white one, the Dual USB, with only a CD drive, and my
Tiger installer disk is a DVD.

So I connected a G4 Mac (Snakebite) in target mode to use its DVD
drive.
But the iBook doesn’t see the DVD or the boot drive in the G4, it sees
only the second HD in there, the original one with OS 9 installed.

I don’t know what’s the problem.
More importantly: How do I get the iBook to see the other drives too?
The G4 has 10.4.11 installed and the volumes are journaled.

If this isn’t possible, I plan to Carbon-copy the DVD onto an external
HD with a Firewire port, then do the install with that HD connected to
the iBook. I hope that’ll work at least...

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