Re: Image Scaling Software needed
On Oct 15, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Brian Fuelleman wrote: You can get a free 30 day trial of the newest version at ononesoftware.com, though they've changed the name of the product. Right, but it only runs on Intel Macs. I need something that works the same but works on a PPC Mac running Tiger. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
On Oct 16, 2011, at 9:07 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Mostly I do a lot of burning DVD's and convert to MP4's Final Cut Pro in on the list also. I think a dual MDD will do that nicely:-) Jeff Engle Kamiah, ID 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
On Oct 15, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Kris Milford wrote: John Carmonne wrote: I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. We may have discussed this before, but I think this is the model that you can upgrade to the 2010 firmware and significantly increase the bus if you get faster RAM? I think this would be worthwhile, the faster RAM is probably cheaper than what you're using now, and you'd be ready for a CPU upgrade if you ever felt it was necessary. See this: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/05/firmware-hack-can-transform-a-2009-mac-pro-into-a-12-core-monster.ars This looks like a very interesting project and after reading the piece I'm trying to find the download for this modification but I'm not having any luck? Also is the RAM speed issue of concern to me? Mostly I do a lot of burning DVD's and convert to MP4's Final Cut Pro in on the list also. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
On Oct 16, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: On Oct 16, 2011, at 9:07 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Mostly I do a lot of burning DVD's and convert to MP4's Final Cut Pro in on the list also. I think a dual MDD will do that nicely:-) Jeff Engle Kamiah, ID 83536 Well, as nice as a MDD is, the only problem with that is Final Cut Pro requires Intel and 12 Gigs of RAM is recommended. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
On 2011/10/15 23:38, Brielle Bruns wrote: DDR3 means 'double data rate type three' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM It primarily means its an evolution of DDR2 and transfers data 2x as fast as DDR2. Thank you for the clarification, sometimes I am a little bit dyslexic. :-) Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Onboard graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
On Oct 16, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: John Carmonne wrote: I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. On Oct 15, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Kris Milford wrote: We may have discussed this before, but I think this is the model that you can upgrade to the 2010 firmware and significantly increase the bus if you get faster RAM? I think this would be worthwhile, the faster RAM is probably cheaper than what you're using now, and you'd be ready for a CPU upgrade if you ever felt it was necessary. See this: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/05/firmware-hack-can-transform-a-2009-mac-pro-into-a-12-core-monster.ars On Oct 16, 2011, at 11:07 AM, John Carmonne wrote: This looks like a very interesting project and after reading the piece I'm trying to find the download for this modification but I'm not having any luck? It's probably here, you'll need to register to see the download link: http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,852.0.html Also is the RAM speed issue of concern to me? Probably not. 1066 to 1333 is a greater than 30% speed bump, BUT, it requires the CPU upgrade in order to get this RAM speed bump. The CPU communicates with the RAM directly, and the speed is set by the CPU, so there's no need to get faster RAM until you get faster Windmere CPUs. For that matter, it's probably not worth doing this firmware update unless you're going to replace both the RAM CPUs because otherwise the advantage would be very minimal (audio out fix perhaps?) and the drawbacks large (your install DVDs don't work any longer). Ok thanks, now as for my original question will mixing ECC with non ECC RAM using Final Cut Pro and CS5 particularly cause me problems? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Hi Kris,
Thank you for the information provided from this response. Looks like
I still have some homework to do. Would you know of a card that you
recommend
out of the box-working? Do you know if all of these mini PCI-Es are
the same form factor?
Thanks again,
Dana
On Oct 15, 3:36 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
On Oct 15, 2011, at 12:01 PM, DLC wrote:
I also notice lots of Apple, 3rd party (and Dell) wireless cards such
the following, that claim to be mini-PCI-E
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180734937482?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid...
Would these work at all?
You can use one of these Mini PCIe cards if you have a Mini PCIe to
PCIe adapter card. This kind is nice:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130501831715
This Mini PCIe adapter combo is probably best and cheapest
alternative. You could use any PCIe only card, or USB dongle also.
You should get a modern 802.11n card with a Broadcom or Atheros chipset.
Here's a list of nice, newer cards that are Airport compatible and
802.11n. You can't utilize AirDrop on a PPC Mac, it's Lion only, but
these are still the better fastest cards. Older 802.11n cards are only
150mbps, newer ones are dual-frequency 300mbps. You might possible
have to tweak the info.plist file within your
IO80211Family.kextContentsPlugIns{appropriate plugin} folder. Real
Apple cards should work out of the box. There's a script to modify the
info.plist for Broadcom cards called bcm43xx_enabler.sh which you'd
open Terminal and type sudo and drag drop the script, hit Return,
and follow instructions. This would enable all Broadcom chipset cards
as Apple Airport.
The cards that support AirDrop:
Broadcom BCM94322MC - are supported by default.
Broadcom BCM94322HM8L - are supported by default.
Atheros AR5BXB112 - are supported by default. (11A430e is from.)
Atheros AR5BXB92 - are supported by default.
Atheros AR5BHB92 - are supported by default.
Atheros AR5B93 - are supported by default.
Atheros AR5B95 - AirPortAtheros40.kext If you let in will add DevID
= 0x002b.
Atheros AR5BXB72 - AirPortAtheros40.kext If you let in will add
DevID = 0x0024.
Cards that do not support AirDrop:
Broadcom BCM94321MC
Broadcom BCM94312MCG
Broadcom BCM94312MCAG
Broadcom BCM94311MCG
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Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Hi Peter, Thank you for the advice, both from you and Kris. I believe i still have some homework to do. Do you have a specific brand, unit that you recommend? Are all PCI-E mini cards that same size/form factor? Thanks again, Dana On Oct 15, 1:27 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: I need some advice: I now have a PowerMac G5 DualCore 2.3GHz unit (late 2005), one of the last models, and that uses the PCI-E architecture. I need to make it wireless for access to our home network printing. However, I have come to find out that the special Airport Extreme/ Bluetooth Combo cards that these units used are scarcer then hen's teeth and usually include an extremely prohibitive price to boot (maybe THAT's what the extreme is supposed to be about!). I am looking at options. Any PCI-E adapter cards you would recommend? USB dongles? I also notice lots of Apple, 3rd party (and Dell) wireless cards such the following, that claim to be mini-PCI-E http://www.ebay.com/itm/180734937482?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid... Would these work at all? Forget buying an Airport card ... just get a Broadcom 4322 (AirDrop-compatible). Sometimes called a 94322. About $15, shipped, from Hong Kong. Dell and others used Broadcom, as did Apple. My Broadcom 94322 looks like this to MacOS 10.7.1 on my Shuttle H67 Hackintosh: Interfaces: en1: Card Type: Third-Party Wireless Card MAC Address: 00:21:00:6b:a1:f3 Supported PHY Modes: 802.11 a/b/g/n Supported Channels: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 36, 40, 44, 48, 52, 56, 60, 64, 100, 104, 108, 112, 116, 120, 124, 128, 132, 136, 140 AirDrop: Supported Current Network Information: PHY Mode: 802.11g BSSID: 00:50:18:4f:51:f8 Network Type: Infrastructure Security: WPA Personal Signal / Noise: -80 dBm / -84 dBm Transmit Rate: 2 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Thanks to all offering advice. Okay, I am looking at this model here, just for comparison and continued learning: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GDTIK4/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8me=seller= 1) is this compatible w/ Leopard? 2) presuming the answer to #1 is yes, where does it plug into? the little bi-slot near the RAM (where the Apple combo card would go), or do I need to be an adapter such as what Kris suggested (Mini PCI-E adapter card)? 3) re: form factor, are all cards designated MINI PCI-E the same size/shape? Thank you again, Dana On Oct 15, 1:01 pm, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all, I need some advice: I now have a PowerMac G5 DualCore 2.3GHz unit (late 2005), one of the last models, and that uses the PCI-E architecture. I need to make it wireless for access to our home network printing. However, I have come to find out that the special Airport Extreme/ Bluetooth Combo cards that these units used are scarcer then hen's teeth and usually include an extremely prohibitive price to boot (maybe THAT's what the extreme is supposed to be about!). I am looking at options. Any PCI-E adapter cards you would recommend? USB dongles? I also notice lots of Apple, 3rd party (and Dell) wireless cards such the following, that claim to be mini-PCI-Ehttp://www.ebay.com/itm/180734937482?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid... Would these work at all? Any advice appreciated. Thank you, and best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
On Oct 16, 2011, at 2:13 PM, DLC wrote: Thanks to all offering advice. Okay, I am looking at this model here, just for comparison and continued learning: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GDTIK4/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8me=seller= 1) is this compatible w/ Leopard? 2) presuming the answer to #1 is yes, where does it plug into? the little bi-slot near the RAM (where the Apple combo card would go), or do I need to be an adapter such as what Kris suggested (Mini PCI-E adapter card)? 3) re: form factor, are all cards designated MINI PCI-E the same size/shape? Thank you again, Dana This is what I use. Tiger and Leopard. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-WiFi-11n-PCI-E-Card-Mac-Pro-G5-Airport-300Mbps-/370306519560?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2hash=item5637fd1208 John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Thank you for the advice, both from you and Kris. I believe i still have some homework to do. Do you have a specific brand, unit that you recommend? Are all PCI-E mini cards that same size/form factor? There are two mini-PCI-e form factors, and some Asian sellers sell both, while others sell adapters from short to long. The PCI-e adapters (fits in a PCI-e 1x slot) are all the same size, and some have provisions for one, two or three antennas. The actual PCI-e WiFi cards can be made by many manufacturers. Those which use a Broadcom chip set are generally out-of-the-box Airport Extreme-compatible. Broadcom cards are generally designed for one or two antenna connections, NOT for three antenna connections. To complicate matters, there are also the Broadcom mini-PCI cards, which fit in a mini-PCI to PCI adapter. These are also Airport Extreme-compatible. Only the latest, the Broadcom 4322 or 94322 are AirDrop-compatible, although the others are Airport Extreme-compatible. I use Broadcom mini-PCI/mini-PCI to PCI in my Hacks which have a free PCI slot; Broadcom mini-PCI-e/mini-PCIe to PCI-e in my Hacks which have a free PCI-e 1x slot; and Broadcom mini-PCIe in my Hacks which have a free mini-PCI-e slot. I generally use one antenna even though the Broadcom cards support two antennas. On my most recent Hack, a Shuttle SH67 (Intel H67 chip set), I have used a Broadcom 4322/94322 with two antennas. On this machine, the motherboard has a mini PCI-e slot which is available for installation of a WiFi card thereby leaving the PCI-e 16x and PCI-e 1x slots available for other uses. I think the following correlation is correct: Broadcom 4313 = mini-PCI, and is Airport Extreme-compatible OOTB, but does not support AirDrop. Broadcom 4318 = mini-PCIe, and is Airport Extreme-compatible OOTB, but does not support AirDrop. Broadcom 4322 = mini-PCIe, and is Airport Extreme-compatible OOTB, and does support AirDrop. Other than the mini-PCI cards, which come in only one form factor, the mini-PCI-e cards come in short and long form factors. Sometimes the mini-PCI-e adapters support both form factors, but more commonly the adapter has the stand-offs soldered onto the board. In this case it may be best to buy an adapter for a long card and then buy a long card or a short card plus a short-to-long adapter. All of this stuff is sold for very low $$$ on eBay by Hong Kong sellers, which usually ship immediately and by air, getting from HK to the West Coast in as little as five days, but more usually in about ten days. In all my dealings with those sellers, I have had only one DOA card, and it was simply the wrong card, not the one I had ordered, and the seller agreed to immediately ship the correct card. And, yes, several of my Hacks also are dual-booted with Windows 7, and these Broadcom cards are fully functional, not the half-a$$ed Windows Edition cards which won't work on any but a specified version of Win. Once you install the card under MacOS X, it should be immediately recognized by the system. Once you boot Windows, you will most likely have to go into the screen where maintenance is applied. Windows will recognize the card as being new and will download the Broadcom driver from whichever site hosts it. I also, on occasion, use USB WiFi dongles, and there are some good ones out there which have full MacOS X support. Rosewill RNX-N150UBE is my current choice, and it 802.11b/g/n-compatible and has 10.4, 10.5 and 10.6 drivers, and the 10.6 driver works perfectly on Lion. Probably more than you ever wanted to know about Mac networking on-the-cheap. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Okay, I am looking at this model here, just for comparison and continued learning: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GDTIK4/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8me=seller= 1) is this compatible w/ Leopard? Yes, and Snow Leopard and Lion. It is accepted by MacOS X as a third party Airport Extreme card. 2) presuming the answer to #1 is yes, where does it plug into? the little bi-slot near the RAM (where the Apple combo card would go), or do I need to be an adapter such as what Kris suggested (Mini PCI-E adapter card)? Can't answer as I usually run Hacks, not Macks. 3) re: form factor, are all cards designated MINI PCI-E the same size/shape? THAT card is a standard sized card. Most of the new ones are short. And, the card you identified is a Broadcom 94322, also called a 4322, and is AirDrop compatible (on Lion). The 94322/4322 is also made in a short card. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Security Update Causes Crashes?
What gives here? I'm still on Tiger, but thinking of upgrading. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220826/Mac_OS_X_security_update_causes_crashes_say_experts - Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Thank you, John. Does it work well? I am guessing it uses Broadcom chipset? Thank you, Dana On Oct 16, 5:16 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Oct 16, 2011, at 2:13 PM, DLC wrote: Thanks to all offering advice. Okay, I am looking at this model here, just for comparison and continued learning: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GDTIK4/ref=olp_product_details?i... 1) is this compatible w/ Leopard? 2) presuming the answer to #1 is yes, where does it plug into? the little bi-slot near the RAM (where the Apple combo card would go), or do I need to be an adapter such as what Kris suggested (Mini PCI-E adapter card)? 3) re: form factor, are all cards designated MINI PCI-E the same size/shape? Thank you again, Dana This is what I use. Tiger and Leopard. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-WiFi-11n-PCI-E-Card-Mac-Pro-G5-Airpo... John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Thank you, Peter! Much information (not more than I wanted, just more than expected! :-) I appreciate the effort and time to type it all up; it is indeed very helpful. Out of curiosity, the intended AirPort slot in my G5/PCI-E dual core: is that really a mini-PCI-E slot? Thanks again, Dana On Oct 16, 8:02 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Thank you for the advice, both from you and Kris. I believe i still have some homework to do. Do you have a specific brand, unit that you recommend? Are all PCI-E mini cards that same size/form factor? There are two mini-PCI-e form factors, and some Asian sellers sell both, while others sell adapters from short to long. The PCI-e adapters (fits in a PCI-e 1x slot) are all the same size, and some have provisions for one, two or three antennas. The actual PCI-e WiFi cards can be made by many manufacturers. Those which use a Broadcom chip set are generally out-of-the-box Airport Extreme-compatible. Broadcom cards are generally designed for one or two antenna connections, NOT for three antenna connections. To complicate matters, there are also the Broadcom mini-PCI cards, which fit in a mini-PCI to PCI adapter. These are also Airport Extreme-compatible. Only the latest, the Broadcom 4322 or 94322 are AirDrop-compatible, although the others are Airport Extreme-compatible. I use Broadcom mini-PCI/mini-PCI to PCI in my Hacks which have a free PCI slot; Broadcom mini-PCI-e/mini-PCIe to PCI-e in my Hacks which have a free PCI-e 1x slot; and Broadcom mini-PCIe in my Hacks which have a free mini-PCI-e slot. I generally use one antenna even though the Broadcom cards support two antennas. On my most recent Hack, a Shuttle SH67 (Intel H67 chip set), I have used a Broadcom 4322/94322 with two antennas. On this machine, the motherboard has a mini PCI-e slot which is available for installation of a WiFi card thereby leaving the PCI-e 16x and PCI-e 1x slots available for other uses. I think the following correlation is correct: Broadcom 4313 = mini-PCI, and is Airport Extreme-compatible OOTB, but does not support AirDrop. Broadcom 4318 = mini-PCIe, and is Airport Extreme-compatible OOTB, but does not support AirDrop. Broadcom 4322 = mini-PCIe, and is Airport Extreme-compatible OOTB, and does support AirDrop. Other than the mini-PCI cards, which come in only one form factor, the mini-PCI-e cards come in short and long form factors. Sometimes the mini-PCI-e adapters support both form factors, but more commonly the adapter has the stand-offs soldered onto the board. In this case it may be best to buy an adapter for a long card and then buy a long card or a short card plus a short-to-long adapter. All of this stuff is sold for very low $$$ on eBay by Hong Kong sellers, which usually ship immediately and by air, getting from HK to the West Coast in as little as five days, but more usually in about ten days. In all my dealings with those sellers, I have had only one DOA card, and it was simply the wrong card, not the one I had ordered, and the seller agreed to immediately ship the correct card. And, yes, several of my Hacks also are dual-booted with Windows 7, and these Broadcom cards are fully functional, not the half-a$$ed Windows Edition cards which won't work on any but a specified version of Win. Once you install the card under MacOS X, it should be immediately recognized by the system. Once you boot Windows, you will most likely have to go into the screen where maintenance is applied. Windows will recognize the card as being new and will download the Broadcom driver from whichever site hosts it. I also, on occasion, use USB WiFi dongles, and there are some good ones out there which have full MacOS X support. Rosewill RNX-N150UBE is my current choice, and it 802.11b/g/n-compatible and has 10.4, 10.5 and 10.6 drivers, and the 10.6 driver works perfectly on Lion. Probably more than you ever wanted to know about Mac networking on-the-cheap. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
And a thank you here also. So, if I bought this card mentioned in my query (you indicate it is a standard size), would I then by something like this? http://www.amazon.com/MiniPCI-E-to-PCI-E-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B003MMY14Y/ref=pd_cp_e_1 And then I would be good to go? Thank you again, Dana On Oct 16, 8:06 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Okay, I am looking at this model here, just for comparison and continued learning: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GDTIK4/ref=olp_product_details?i... 1) is this compatible w/ Leopard? Yes, and Snow Leopard and Lion. It is accepted by MacOS X as a third party Airport Extreme card. 2) presuming the answer to #1 is yes, where does it plug into? the little bi-slot near the RAM (where the Apple combo card would go), or do I need to be an adapter such as what Kris suggested (Mini PCI-E adapter card)? Can't answer as I usually run Hacks, not Macks. 3) re: form factor, are all cards designated MINI PCI-E the same size/shape? THAT card is a standard sized card. Most of the new ones are short. And, the card you identified is a Broadcom 94322, also called a 4322, and is AirDrop compatible (on Lion). The 94322/4322 is also made in a short card. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
Thank you, Peter! Much information (not more than I wanted, just more than expected! :-) I appreciate the effort and time to type it all up; it is indeed very helpful. Glad to be of some help. Out of curiosity, the intended AirPort slot in my G5/PCI-E dual core: is that really a mini-PCI-E slot? According to my information the stated model has three PCI-e 1x expansion slots. If so, then you would need a mini-PCI-e to PCI-e 1x adapter card in addition to the Broadcom mini-PCI-e WiFi card. And, I would choose a 4322/94322 over a 4318/94318 in order to get AirDrop if/when Lion was installed. A suitable mini-PCI-e to PCI-e 1x adapter card would be: http://www.ebay.com/itm/mini-PCI-E-PCI-E-Express-1x-adapter-card-3-antenna-/180499694567 You'll need to know if a 3.3 volt or a 1.2 volt system and card is required. I cannot answer than question as I don't have a Mac Pro. Off-hand, I would guess 3.3 volts. In which case it is probably best to go to Other World Computing and see what they offer. In all honesty, I've never been confronted with a 3.3 vs. 1.2 volt question or issue ... I buy whatever is available and it has always worked. I can see that OWC is selling an Atheros-based card for about $75 and that it supports three antennas. The Broadcom cards I have been using support only two antennas, but I only plug-in one, and cost about $15 from HK. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
And a thank you here also. So, if I bought this card mentioned in my query (you indicate it is a standard size), would I then by something like this? http://www.amazon.com/MiniPCI-E-to-PCI-E-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B003MMY14Y/ref=pd_cp_e_1 And then I would be good to go? This adapter supports both long (standard size) and short WiFi cards and three antennas. You will only need two antennas with a Broadcom card (Atheros supports three antennas). MacOS X (most late versions, anyway) supports both Broadcom and Atheros. From the Amazon description, no screws are supplied. In which case I would wrap a miniature ty-wrap around the card to retain the WiFi card. Just make sure the WiFi card is parallel to the adapter card and it is fully seated in the connector. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
You can get a USB adapter to about $15 - ant reason why you need a PCI card? http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/MXP2802GU2/ Eric From: John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 8:47 PM Subject: Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5 On Oct 16, 2011, at 5:57 PM, DLC wrote: Thank you, John. Does it work well? I am guessing it uses Broadcom chipset? Thank you, Dana On Oct 16, 5:16 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Oct 16, 2011, at 2:13 PM, DLC wrote: Thanks to all offering advice. Okay, I am looking at this model here, just for comparison and continued learning: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GDTIK4/ref=olp_product_details?i... 1) is this compatible w/ Leopard? 2) presuming the answer to #1 is yes, where does it plug into? the little bi-slot near the RAM (where the Apple combo card would go), or do I need to be an adapter such as what Kris suggested (Mini PCI-E adapter card)? 3) re: form factor, are all cards designated MINI PCI-E the same size/shape? Thank you again, Dana This is what I use. Tiger and Leopard. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-WiFi-11n-PCI-E-Card-Mac-Pro-G5-Airpo... I'm not sure about the Broadcom chip but it works great and thinks it's an AirPort card. BTW I bought mine for $18.50 from Hong Kong. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
On Oct 16, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Eric Hall wrote: On Oct 16, 2011, at 5:57 PM, DLC wrote: Thank you, John. Does it work well? I am guessing it uses Broadcom chipset? Thank you, Dana Thanks to all offering advice. Okay, I am looking at this model here, just for comparison and continued learning: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GDTIK4/ref=olp_product_details?i... 1) is this compatible w/ Leopard? 2) presuming the answer to #1 is yes, where does it plug into? the little bi-slot near the RAM (where the Apple combo card would go), or do I need to be an adapter such as what Kris suggested (Mini PCI-E adapter card)? 3) re: form factor, are all cards designated MINI PCI-E the same size/shape? Thank you again, Dana This is what I use. Tiger and Leopard. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-WiFi-11n-PCI-E-Card-Mac-Pro-G5-Airpo... I'm not sure about the Broadcom chip but it works great and thinks it's an AirPort card. BTW I bought mine for $18.50 from Hong Kong. You can get a USB adapter to about $15 - ant reason why you need a PCI card? http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/MXP2802GU2/ Eric I have USB dongles too but AFAIK they all require 3rd party software, no problem with that but you have to log in at each boot where as the Apple AiPort software is runningt when using the PCIe card. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
It says all you have to do is plug it in. But I guess you have your heart set on a card when a $15 dongle will do. Enjoy. :) Eric From: John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:19 PM Subject: Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5 I have USB dongles too but AFAIK they all require 3rd party software, no problem with that but you have to log in at each boot where as the Apple AiPort software is runningt when using the PCIe card. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
You can get a USB adapter to about $15 - ant reason why you need a PCI card? For a supported card, such as a Broadcom 4313, 4318 and 4322, they're supported out of the box by MacOS X. No drivers or any other stuff to install. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
It says all you have to do is plug it in. But I guess you have your heart set on a card when a $15 dongle will do. A $15 USB dongle WON'T DO as each manufacturer has its own set of drivers, and not every USB dongle manufacturer issues MacOS X drivers. In fact, rather few actually do. Heck, even if you get one which has MacOS X drivers, they will not be provided with the dongle and you'll have to hunt them down. Often, they are not found on the dongle manufacturer's site, but are found on the chip set manufacturer's site. Of all the USB dongles out there, I like the ones based upon the Realtek chip set the best as their driver supports every variation of their chip set, no matter whom the actual retailer is. Look for ... Wlan_11n_USB_MacOS10.6_Driver_1079_UI_1.8.8 ... for MacOS 10.6 (and also 10.7) ... Wlan_11n_USB_MacOS10.5_Driver_1079_UI_1.8.8 ... for MacOS 10.5, and ... Wlan_11n_USB_MacOS10.4_Driver_1079_UI_1.8.8 ... for MacOS 10.4 (and most probably 10.3). The version of the dongle I buy is 802.11a/b/g/n compatible, but my present wireless access point is 802.11g. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
On Oct 16, 2011, at 9:05 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: It says all you have to do is plug it in. But I guess you have your heart set on a card when a $15 dongle will do. A $15 USB dongle WON'T DO as each manufacturer has its own set of drivers, and not every USB dongle manufacturer issues MacOS X drivers. In fact, rather few actually do. Of all the USB dongles out there, I like the ones based upon the Realtek chip set the best as their driver supports every variation of their chip set, no matter whom the actual retailer is. Look for ... Wlan_11n_USB_MacOS10.6_Driver_1079_UI_1.8.8 ... for MacOS 10.6 (and also 10.7) ... Wlan_11n_USB_MacOS10.5_Driver_1079_UI_1.8.8 ... for MacOS 10.5, and ... Wlan_11n_USB_MacOS10.4_Driver_1079_UI_1.8.8 ... for MacOS 10.4 (and most probably 10.3). The version of the dongle I buy is 802.11a/b/g/n compatible, but my present wireless access point is 802.11g. I use RALink drivers on the N speed dongles and Realtek on the G speed dongles, They work pretty good but once in a while I loose connection and have to reboot to reload the driver so IMHO the AirPort approach is the best if you can get a Card cheap. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
I use RALink drivers on the N speed dongles and Realtek on the G speed dongles, They work pretty good but once in a while I loose connection and have to reboot to reload the driver so IMHO the AirPort approach is the best if you can get a Card cheap. Ralink is a good manufacturer, too, but Realtek has better support for MacOS X. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need Wireless advice for late 2005 G5
This adapter supports both long (standard size) and short WiFi cards and three antennas. This ... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Broadcom-1521-1520-1526-802-11b-g-Wireless-Wifi-MINI-PCIe-Card-DW1390-/370545176016 ... is also a good option. These are generally called a Dell DW1390, but as can be seen these are really Broadcom 4311/94311 and are 802.11b/g-compatible, meaning Airport AND Airport Extreme. Probably a good value at around $7. For twice as much, you can get a Broadcom 4322/94322 which will give you 802.11a/b/g/n. Also AirDrop. 802.11a is pretty much useless unless you have a 15 year old router. 802.11b is only useful as a fall-back from 802.11g. I use 802.11g for everything, and occasionally 802.11n. I long ago ran out of wired E-net ports, so every new (to me) Hack or Mack gets a WiFi card of some kind. I like the Broadcom cards because WiFi is available immediately after MacOS X is booted as Broadcom is native to the Mac. The pass phrase is stored in the keychain and everyone is happy. Broadcom cards from HK are also very affordable. No way am I going to spend $75 on a house-branded or even Apple-branded Broadcom card! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
