hacking for a slimmer world
alright everyone i am using leopard 10.5.8 on a dp 1.25mhz mdd with 2 gigs of ram, any tweaks that you would suggest, any ways to go about kernel hacking and trimming my system? i cant really afford a g5 at the moment, and i dig the ppc arch, so i am using this up for what i am doing. im trying to make it ultra-snappy and everything that doesnt need to run or be loaded, needs to be killed. So any ideas? i have gotten a better video card( i have the adc variety 128meg radeon agp) updated mouse and keyboard and i am using some usb apple pro speakers(there shot). help please. ideas, things to read, anything -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hacking for a slimmer world
On Nov 10, 2011, at 11:09 PM, Jesse St.John wrote: alright everyone i am using leopard 10.5.8 on a dp 1.25mhz mdd with 2 gigs of ram, any tweaks that you would suggest, any ways to go about kernel hacking and trimming my system? i cant really afford a g5 at the moment, and i dig the ppc arch, so i am using this up for what i am doing. im trying to make it ultra-snappy and everything that doesnt need to run or be loaded, needs to be killed. So any ideas? i have gotten a better video card( i have the adc variety 128meg radeon agp) updated mouse and keyboard and i am using some usb apple pro speakers(there shot). help please. ideas, things to read, anything I'd look for a 1.42 processor, a 7200 RPM SATA HDD, and turn off journaling. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hacking for a slimmer world
At 1:09 AM -0600 11/11/2011, Jesse St.John wrote: leopard 10.5.8 on a dp 1.25mhz mdd with 2 gigs of ram, any tweaks that you would suggest, any ways to go about kernel hacking and trimming my system? You looking for better cpu performance, i/o performance, or just more disk space? If you don't regularly use all your installed ram, how 'bout a RAM Disk? What speed HD you gots? WRT externals, keep in mind that FW is far less cpu intensive than USB. im trying to make it ultra-snappy and everything that doesnt need to run or be loaded, needs to be killed. So any ideas? OS X is quite thrifty. It already only loads what it needs, and even then mostly not until it's actually needed. About the only thing that can slow it down is stale or corrupted caches. An app such as AppleJack can fix that easily. If you're ok with making future updates (system and app) more complicated, you can rip out unused languages and template files. That won't save you any cpu time, but it will save some disk space. ...As I recall, GarageBand's library is gigantic! There are things that can be done to individual apps. eg: Use Perian instead of the regular divx codec. Use VLC instead of QuickTime Player (Apple's codecs pretty much suck). Install appropriate ad and Flash blockers in all your browsers. ... It would help if you mentioned your actual app mix. At 5:35 AM -0800 11/11/2011, JohnCarmonne wrote: and turn off journaling. sigh. HFS' journaling feature can be a pig - using up as much as .01% of your CPU and about as much i/o bandwidth. Perhaps a bit more when you make BIG changes to your file system (like moving or deleting hundreds/thousands of files). Be sure to keep a bootable DiskWarrior disk around ($99?), of course --- without journaling, a simple power hit can fark your file system way beyond fsck's (Disk Utility) ability to fix it. heh. sigh. Journaling is one of the most efficient triumphs Apple has added to our HFS file system in 15+ years. Don't shoot yourself in the foot. You'd be better off ditching things like Dashboard. a big memory pig, if you don't use it. - Dan. -- - Be Prepared! http://www.bt.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hacking for a slimmer world
Il giorno 11-11-2011 8:09, Jesse St.John ha scritto: alright everyone i am using leopard 10.5.8 on a dp 1.25mhz mdd with 2 gigs of ram, any tweaks that you would suggest, any ways to go about kernel hacking and trimming my system? im trying to make it ultra-snappy Sorry to bring bad news but - AFAIK - OSX will NEVER be snappy on a G4. If you want a really snappy OS on your G4, better use OS9. :-) I just went from a G4 DA 1.4 GHz to a G5 2.7 DP, both with OSX 10.4. OSX doesn't feel snappy even on the G5...! Responsive, yes, but not snappy. (and, of course, it has always been sluggish on the G4) So, IMHO, there's no magic wand to make your G4 superfast... (save for transplanting an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU in it ;-) Some people here is very fond of hackintoshes (PCs hacked to run OSX). If you're short on cash and like to tinker (and study), that might be a viable route. Coming back to reality... AFAIK Leopard is not well optimized. Tiger (10.4) could be (moderately) faster on your Mac. Or maybe even Snow Leopard (but I'm not sure about this). and everything that doesnt need to run or be loaded, needs to be killed. So any ideas? You could use Activity Monitor to check what is getting more CPU time. I don't think you can kill much, thou; but, maybe, you could find that some app is CPU heavy, and you can find something lighter to substitute with. E.g., I found SoundJam and MacAmp Lite are lighter than iTunes. am using some usb apple pro speakers I wonder if USB speakers put a load on the system... and I think they do. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hacking for a slimmer world
Some people here is very fond of hackintoshes (PCs hacked to run OSX). If you're short on cash and like to tinker (and study), that might be a viable route. Not much study is required these days. Professionally written Guides are available for a great many configurations from netbooks to enterprise-level servers. Most of the tools are now GUI and some require just a one-page cheat-sheet to go from bare hardware to a booted and fully functional Lion system in under an hour. Coming back to reality... Hackintoshes seem pretty real to me. Lion and Server Lion, running on a PC with NO modifications whatsoever to either the PC or to Lion is a reality. With prior versions of MacOS X Server, the software cost many times what the hardware cost, and the temptation was there to use a flavor of Linux for one's server. Alas, the learning curve for Linux ... any flavor, server or not ... is VERY steep. But with Server Lion, the software costs a fraction of the hardware cost, so there is really no reason not to run Server Lion, and then to get all the benefits of Lion along with it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hacking for a slimmer world
Il giorno 11-11-2011 20:10, peterh...@cruzio.com ha scritto: Some people here is very fond of hackintoshes (PCs hacked to run OSX). If you're short on cash and like to tinker (and study), that might be a viable route. Not much study is required these days. You sure? Aren't you underestimating your own know-how? :-) For a long time I heard Linux lovers claiming their OS had become easy and straightforward... IMHO, that's not true, by a long shot. But they are so much in love with their OS, they can't see their own geekiness is far from the common user. When I approached the Hackintosh world, years ago, things were difficult and troublesome. I'm not contradicting your position (you know much more than me), I just wonder if you aren't forgetting that what you know might not be a given for most people (an error many experts fall for). Coming back to reality... Hackintoshes seem pretty real to me. Ok but, again, rocket science is pretty real... but that doesn't mean is accessible to everybody. :-) What I meant was reality for the average Joe without any particular knowledge, the average user and the things he has in his reach. Lion and Server Lion, running on a PC with NO modifications whatsoever to either the PC or to Lion is a reality. Well, I am just glad to know it. :-D If I had not just got my G5, I might be tempted... Any link to get direct access to those possibilities? :-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hacking for a slimmer world
Some people here is very fond of hackintoshes (PCs hacked to run OSX). If you're short on cash and like to tinker (and study), that might be a viable route. Not much study is required these days. You sure? Aren't you underestimating your own know-how? :-) Perhaps my perspective is different, or perhaps distorted by a space-time continuum. I spent more than 30 years in professional employment in IBM System/360, System/370, System/390 and z/System mainframes, both hardware (some of which I designed, for my then-employer, Amdahl Corp) and software (where I was a widely-acknowledged subject matter expert in many of that OSes' components). Heck, Lion and Server Lion, on Hacks, is child's-play compared to the learning curve with a mainframe OSes such as OS/360, OS/370, OS/390 and z/OS. At least eight years of continual study just to achieve a functional, journeyman level understanding of the externals, much less the internals. Throw in a decade or two more for the internals. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
