Re: Problems with MDD Freezing Up

2011-11-19 Thread gifutiger
Greetings,

There should be some kind of indication as to why your platform is
freezing in the Console Log
You'll find the Console log in your Utilities folder.
When you restart after a freeze open the console log and perhaps
you'll find out what was happening just prior to the freeze.

Cheers

Harry Free,am
San Jose, Ca


On Nov 18, 8:40 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
 On Nov 18, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Maccountant wrote:

   I have no problem starting in Safe Boot mode, even when it cannot
  start - due to freezing - in normal mode.

  Any suggestions?

 You've booted a CD or DVD and run Disk Utility on the HDs? If the CD
 or DVD freezes, it's likely hardware, but I don't think it will freeze.

 This sounds like a software issue. You've changed CPUs, video cards,
 HDs, and RAM, and STILL have this problem that only occurs in normal
 boots and not in safe boots. This would indicate the problem is
 software, and some 3rd-party software most likely.

 You might be able to systematically troubleshoot the problem by
 creating a list of which processes are running during a Safe Boot, and
 then compare that to which are running during a normal boot. You can
 see the individual processes in ApplicationsUtilitiesActivity
 Monitor. You can Quit processes manually from Activity Monitor, and
 perhaps isolate which process is causing the freeze.

 If I were to guess, I'd guess printer software. I know HP printer
 software was known to have daemons that caused problems sometimes, and
 I imagine other printer software may be nearly as bad. I think it's
 more of a USB issue, but printer software is polling the USB bus, and
 I suspect that's where the problem lies. If not printer software, if
 you have any other 3rd-party USB software, start there.

 I could possibly take longer than it's worth to isolate the issue
 compared to doing a fresh, clean installation of 10.4.11 and
 transferring your stuff across to a pristine System. I assume a
 pristine System will work normally.

 I'd reinstall your better CPU and video card also, assuming this is a
 software issue.

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Re: Problems with MDD Freezing Up

2011-11-19 Thread David W. Morris
I have random freezing on my G4 PowerBook, model 1139 w/1.67GHz G4, so  
I will check out the Console Log that you mentioned below and see if I  
can find the reason for this Freezing that happens about once a day.


Are you suggesting to leave the Console Log up and running all the  
time, so that when the computer Freezes I will be able to see in the  
Console Log what happened right before the Freeze?


I would need to make sure what ever I am doing on the computer did not  
cover that window, or I would not be able to see it after the freeze  
occurred.




On Nov 19, 2011, at 10:27 AM, gifutiger wrote:


Greetings,

There should be some kind of indication as to why your platform is
freezing in the Console Log
You'll find the Console log in your Utilities folder.
When you restart after a freeze open the console log and perhaps
you'll find out what was happening just prior to the freeze.

Cheers

Harry Free,am
San Jose, Ca


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