PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime

2012-03-17 Thread Jonas Ulrich
Hi all, I'm working on a Dual 2.3GHZ PowerMac G5. I put in eight matched
512MB ram chips, a new hard drive, a new optical drive, and have run the
Apple Service Diagnostic over 20 times, and it passed them all.

Now, I just started it up, it beeped once, then proceeded with normal
booting. All the ram is recognized.

Another interesting thing: The power light is pulsing very quickly. The
system is now running, and seems fine, but the power light is pulsing.

I have no idea what to do now. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks!

-Jonas

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Re: PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime

2012-03-17 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 Hi all, I'm working on a Dual 2.3GHZ PowerMac G5. I put in eight matched
 512MB ram chips, a new hard drive, a new optical drive, and have run the
 Apple Service Diagnostic over 20 times, and it passed them all.
 
 Now, I just started it up, it beeped once, then proceeded with normal
 booting. All the ram is recognized.
 
 Another interesting thing: The power light is pulsing very quickly. The
 system is now running, and seems fine, but the power light is pulsing.

Are any of the service lights on? They are coloured lights near the front
of the unit. (If you take the side panel off to look while it's running or
on and remove the air baffle, the yellow light will come on, which is
expected.)

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Re: PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime

2012-03-17 Thread JohnCarmonne

On Mar 16, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

 Hi all, I'm working on a Dual 2.3GHZ PowerMac G5. I put in eight matched 
 512MB ram chips, a new hard drive, a new optical drive, and have run the 
 Apple Service Diagnostic over 20 times, and it passed them all.
 
 Now, I just started it up, it beeped once, then proceeded with normal 
 booting. All the ram is recognized.
 
 Another interesting thing: The power light is pulsing very quickly. The 
 system is now running, and seems fine, but the power light is pulsing.
 
 I have no idea what to do now. Anyone have any ideas?
 
 Thanks!
 
 -Jonas

Does it still blink with all peripherals un pugged?


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Re: PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime

2012-03-17 Thread Dan

At 3:40 PM -0700 3/16/2012, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

Dual 2.3GHZ PowerMac G5.


I put in eight matched 512MB ram chips, a new hard drive, a new 
optical drive, and have run the Apple Service Diagnostic over 20 
times, and it passed them all. Now, I just started it up, it beeped 
once, then proceeded with normal booting. All the ram is recognized.


A single beep (not the normal bong) indicates that there is a problem 
with one of the sticks of memory.   Try resetting the PMU.  Try 
reseating the DIMMs.  Try putting them in indifferent slots.  Try 
putting fewer in, etc.



ObQuip:  Memory comes in DIMM *sticks*.  The individual integrated 
circuits (ICs) **on** the sticks are the chips.  So calling the whole 
thing a chip is incorrect...  Please call them either a DIMM or a 
Stick.


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PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up

2012-03-17 Thread Valter Prahlad
Hi all!

My PM G5 2.7 DP goes generally fine, but it has some quirks now and then.

This one is quite odd: once in a while (let's say once every one or two
weeks), when switching the G5 on the DVD drive opens up.
This happens just a couple seconds after pressing the ON button (so it
doesn't seem software-related)
The DVD drive (original, AFAIK) works flawlessly otherwise.

I didn't change anything special on this G5 (I installed Skype recently),
but it happened even before.

Does somebody have any idea how this could happen?

TIA
Valter

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Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up

2012-03-17 Thread Cameron Kaiser
 My PM G5 2.7 DP goes generally fine, but it has some quirks now and then.
 
 This one is quite odd: once in a while (let's say once every one or two
 weeks), when switching the G5 on the DVD drive opens up.
 This happens just a couple seconds after pressing the ON button (so it
 doesn't seem software-related)
 The DVD drive (original, AFAIK) works flawlessly otherwise.
 
 I didn't change anything special on this G5 (I installed Skype recently),
 but it happened even before.
 
 Does somebody have any idea how this could happen?

Mouse glitch where it thinks the button is down?

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Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up

2012-03-17 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 17-03-2012 23:40, Cameron Kaiser ha scritto:

 Mouse glitch where it thinks the button is down?

Yeah, I thought about that. But I never touch the mouse when I boot up, and
I cannot think why it would behave that way only once in a couple weeks (or
more).

BTW, the mouse is, actually, a Wacom Graphire 4x5 tablet (ET-0405-U) combo
with tablet, mouse and pen. Although is USB connected, is NOT a standard USB
device (it doesn't work in most 3D videogames, in fact).

I had the same tablet with my G3 and G4 since 1998 (going from MacOS 8.6
thru 9.2.2, OSX 10.3 and 10.4), and this DVD drive issue never happened
before this G5.
I had my G4 DA for several years with the very same OSX (I actually cloned
it to the G5 using CCC) and it never happened. So it looks more of an
hardware than software issue.

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Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up

2012-03-17 Thread JohnCarmonne

On Mar 17, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:

 Hi all!
 
 My PM G5 2.7 DP goes generally fine, but it has some quirks now and then.
 
 This one is quite odd: once in a while (let's say once every one or two
 weeks), when switching the G5 on the DVD drive opens up.
 This happens just a couple seconds after pressing the ON button (so it
 doesn't seem software-related)
 The DVD drive (original, AFAIK) works flawlessly otherwise.
 
 I didn't change anything special on this G5 (I installed Skype recently),
 but it happened even before.
 
 Does somebody have any idea how this could happen?
 
 TIA
 Valter

Is it possible that when you shut it down you had a Toast or labeling program 
up and the application didn't quit normal but forced quit due to shut down?
I have happen sometimes but mine opens and closes.


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Re: PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime

2012-03-17 Thread Jonas Ulrich
Thanks for all the replies so far!

The power light is normal now.

Twice now, when I've booted it up it goes into Open Firmware, and says
Device still fails after x tries or something like that.

I ran the ASD again, but after it passed, It all of a sudden shut off. This
was about 10 hours after it passed, I've run it for longer than that after
passing, so I know this isn't normal.

There is no service lights on.

I will try resetting the PMU.

Any ideas why it would shut off? If it were a problem with the ram, how
would I tell for sure. It's difficult to test, because it's a random
problem.

Thanks!
-Jonas

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Re: PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime

2012-03-17 Thread John Carmonne

On Mar 17, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

 Thanks for all the replies so far!
 
 The power light is normal now.
 
 Twice now, when I've booted it up it goes into Open Firmware, and says 
 Device still fails after x tries or something like that.
 
 I ran the ASD again, but after it passed, It all of a sudden shut off. This 
 was about 10 hours after it passed, I've run it for longer than that after 
 passing, so I know this isn't normal.
 
 There is no service lights on.
 
 I will try resetting the PMU.
 
 Any ideas why it would shut off? If it were a problem with the ram, how would 
 I tell for sure. It's difficult to test, because it's a random problem.
 
 Thanks!
 -Jonas
 
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I would reseat the processors and reset the CUDA switch. It may be the power 
supply with a capacitor heating up and momentarily failing. I had my 2.7 
shutting down like that when the logic board started to fail and the ASD always 
passed. I finally got another board and alls well now.

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Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up

2012-03-17 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 17-03-2012 23:43, JohnCarmonne ha scritto:

 Is it possible that when you shut it down you had a Toast or labeling program
 up and the application didn't quit normal but forced quit due to shut down?
No, I'd say no apps like that running, and definitely none of them forced
quit.

OTOH, when I close Skype (v. 2.8.0.866) it often gives an error (like
Unexpectedly quit or something).
I wonder if that happens while shutting down the G5, and it causes something
on the subsequent boot. But why Skype would have something to do with the
optical drive?

 I have happen sometimes but mine opens and closes.
Mine remains open (when it opens by itself).

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Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up

2012-03-17 Thread John Carmonne

On Mar 17, 2012, at 7:42 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:

 Il giorno 17-03-2012 23:43, JohnCarmonne ha scritto:
 
 Is it possible that when you shut it down you had a Toast or labeling program
 up and the application didn't quit normal but forced quit due to shut down?
 No, I'd say no apps like that running, and definitely none of them forced
 quit.
 
 OTOH, when I close Skype (v. 2.8.0.866) it often gives an error (like
 Unexpectedly quit or something).

I think DiskWarrior will take care of the Skype quit issue.

 I wonder if that happens while shutting down the G5, and it causes something
 on the subsequent boot. But why Skype would have something to do with the
 optical drive?
 
 

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92886 USA
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G5 Constant HD activity

2012-03-17 Thread JohnV
When I have the system on, why would the HD be constantly quietly  
chattering away to itself?

 It'll pause and be quiet for 10 sec or so and then start up again.


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Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up

2012-03-17 Thread glen

- Original Message -
 
 Il giorno 17-03-2012 23:40, Cameron Kaiser ha scritto:
 
  Mouse glitch where it thinks the button is down?
 
 Yeah, I thought about that. But I never touch the mouse when I boot up, and
 I cannot think why it would behave that way only once in a couple weeks (or
 more).
 
 BTW, the mouse is, actually, a Wacom Graphire 4x5 tablet (ET-0405-U) combo
 with tablet, mouse and pen. Although is USB connected, is NOT a standard USB
 device (it doesn't work in most 3D videogames, in fact).
 
 I had the same tablet with my G3 and G4 since 1998 (going from MacOS 8.6
 thru 9.2.2, OSX 10.3 and 10.4), and this DVD drive issue never happened
 before this G5.
 I had my G4 DA for several years with the very same OSX (I actually cloned
 it to the G5 using CCC) and it never happened. So it looks more of an
 hardware than software issue.


Perhaps a dirty or loose USB connection sending the wrong signal like a 
depressed mouse button?

I had the same problem with a Sawtooth G4 and at first thought it was a 
firmware problem with the upgraded DVD drive. When I replaced the Sawtooth with 
DA attached to the same keyboard and mouse the problem continued with the tray 
opening on every boot. The mouse was connected to the USB port on the keyboard 
and the keyboard was connected to the logicboard.

After reading Cameron's recent post I unplugged everything from the USB ports 
on the DA logicboard and rebooted, The DVD tray did not open on boot for the 
first time in months. I reseated all USB connections and rebooted without the 
problem.


Thus I would look for a dirty or loose USB connection or bad cable or a faulty 
USB port causing the problem -- glen

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Re: G5 Constant HD activity

2012-03-17 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 17, 2012, at 8:16 PM, JohnV wrote:

 When I have the system on, why would the HD be constantly quietly chattering 
 away to itself?
 It'll pause and be quiet for 10 sec or so and then start up again.

Probably Spotlight doing it's thing. Fire up Activity monitor and watch what's 
at the top of the activity list during quiet times, nbet it's something called 
'mdworker', which is the Spotlight maintenance process.
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Re: PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime

2012-03-17 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 17, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

 
 Any ideas why it would shut off? If it were a problem with the ram, how would 
 I tell for sure. It's difficult to test, because it's a random problem.


 Install Applejack, and run memtest. See the AppleJack readme, because it's not 
in the normal menu. This will tell you which stick is bad.
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Re: G5 Constant HD activity

2012-03-17 Thread Dan

At 11:16 PM -0400 3/17/2012, JohnV wrote:

[G5 Dual 1.8 GHz 2GB SDRAM 10.4.11]

When I have the system on, why would the HD be constantly quietly 
chattering away to itself?

It'll pause and be quiet for 10 sec or so and then start up again.
RUNNING APPS: MAIL CALENDAR TEXT EDIT APPLEWORKS 6 ITUNES 8.2.1


Probably Spotlight's indexing processes.  They do their work at low 
priority, during idle times.


Launch Activity Monitor.  Set it to update less frequently.  View all 
processes.  Sort by %cpu, in descending order.  Give it about 15 secs 
to update a couple of times, and average out the numbers.  Then take 
note of the top processes.


The Spotlight processes go by names like mds and mdimport and 
mdworker etc.


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Re: G5 Constant HD activity

2012-03-17 Thread JohnV

mdimport seems to be the one...


thanks.



On Mar 18, 2012, at 12:03 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Mar 17, 2012, at 8:16 PM, JohnV wrote:

When I have the system on, why would the HD be constantly quietly  
chattering away to itself?

It'll pause and be quiet for 10 sec or so and then start up again.


Probably Spotlight doing it's thing. Fire up Activity monitor and  
watch what's at the top of the activity list during quiet times,  
nbet it's something called 'mdworker', which is the Spotlight  
maintenance process.

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