PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime
Hi all, I'm working on a Dual 2.3GHZ PowerMac G5. I put in eight matched 512MB ram chips, a new hard drive, a new optical drive, and have run the Apple Service Diagnostic over 20 times, and it passed them all. Now, I just started it up, it beeped once, then proceeded with normal booting. All the ram is recognized. Another interesting thing: The power light is pulsing very quickly. The system is now running, and seems fine, but the power light is pulsing. I have no idea what to do now. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime
Hi all, I'm working on a Dual 2.3GHZ PowerMac G5. I put in eight matched 512MB ram chips, a new hard drive, a new optical drive, and have run the Apple Service Diagnostic over 20 times, and it passed them all. Now, I just started it up, it beeped once, then proceeded with normal booting. All the ram is recognized. Another interesting thing: The power light is pulsing very quickly. The system is now running, and seems fine, but the power light is pulsing. Are any of the service lights on? They are coloured lights near the front of the unit. (If you take the side panel off to look while it's running or on and remove the air baffle, the yellow light will come on, which is expected.) -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- FOOLS! I WILL DESTROY YOU ALL! ASK ME HOW! -- Girl Genius 8/29/07 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime
On Mar 16, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Hi all, I'm working on a Dual 2.3GHZ PowerMac G5. I put in eight matched 512MB ram chips, a new hard drive, a new optical drive, and have run the Apple Service Diagnostic over 20 times, and it passed them all. Now, I just started it up, it beeped once, then proceeded with normal booting. All the ram is recognized. Another interesting thing: The power light is pulsing very quickly. The system is now running, and seems fine, but the power light is pulsing. I have no idea what to do now. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks! -Jonas Does it still blink with all peripherals un pugged? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime
At 3:40 PM -0700 3/16/2012, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Dual 2.3GHZ PowerMac G5. I put in eight matched 512MB ram chips, a new hard drive, a new optical drive, and have run the Apple Service Diagnostic over 20 times, and it passed them all. Now, I just started it up, it beeped once, then proceeded with normal booting. All the ram is recognized. A single beep (not the normal bong) indicates that there is a problem with one of the sticks of memory. Try resetting the PMU. Try reseating the DIMMs. Try putting them in indifferent slots. Try putting fewer in, etc. ObQuip: Memory comes in DIMM *sticks*. The individual integrated circuits (ICs) **on** the sticks are the chips. So calling the whole thing a chip is incorrect... Please call them either a DIMM or a Stick. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up
Hi all! My PM G5 2.7 DP goes generally fine, but it has some quirks now and then. This one is quite odd: once in a while (let's say once every one or two weeks), when switching the G5 on the DVD drive opens up. This happens just a couple seconds after pressing the ON button (so it doesn't seem software-related) The DVD drive (original, AFAIK) works flawlessly otherwise. I didn't change anything special on this G5 (I installed Skype recently), but it happened even before. Does somebody have any idea how this could happen? TIA Valter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up
My PM G5 2.7 DP goes generally fine, but it has some quirks now and then. This one is quite odd: once in a while (let's say once every one or two weeks), when switching the G5 on the DVD drive opens up. This happens just a couple seconds after pressing the ON button (so it doesn't seem software-related) The DVD drive (original, AFAIK) works flawlessly otherwise. I didn't change anything special on this G5 (I installed Skype recently), but it happened even before. Does somebody have any idea how this could happen? Mouse glitch where it thinks the button is down? -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- It's the car, right? Chicks dig the car. -- Batman Forever --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up
Il giorno 17-03-2012 23:40, Cameron Kaiser ha scritto: Mouse glitch where it thinks the button is down? Yeah, I thought about that. But I never touch the mouse when I boot up, and I cannot think why it would behave that way only once in a couple weeks (or more). BTW, the mouse is, actually, a Wacom Graphire 4x5 tablet (ET-0405-U) combo with tablet, mouse and pen. Although is USB connected, is NOT a standard USB device (it doesn't work in most 3D videogames, in fact). I had the same tablet with my G3 and G4 since 1998 (going from MacOS 8.6 thru 9.2.2, OSX 10.3 and 10.4), and this DVD drive issue never happened before this G5. I had my G4 DA for several years with the very same OSX (I actually cloned it to the G5 using CCC) and it never happened. So it looks more of an hardware than software issue. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up
On Mar 17, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Hi all! My PM G5 2.7 DP goes generally fine, but it has some quirks now and then. This one is quite odd: once in a while (let's say once every one or two weeks), when switching the G5 on the DVD drive opens up. This happens just a couple seconds after pressing the ON button (so it doesn't seem software-related) The DVD drive (original, AFAIK) works flawlessly otherwise. I didn't change anything special on this G5 (I installed Skype recently), but it happened even before. Does somebody have any idea how this could happen? TIA Valter Is it possible that when you shut it down you had a Toast or labeling program up and the application didn't quit normal but forced quit due to shut down? I have happen sometimes but mine opens and closes. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime
Thanks for all the replies so far! The power light is normal now. Twice now, when I've booted it up it goes into Open Firmware, and says Device still fails after x tries or something like that. I ran the ASD again, but after it passed, It all of a sudden shut off. This was about 10 hours after it passed, I've run it for longer than that after passing, so I know this isn't normal. There is no service lights on. I will try resetting the PMU. Any ideas why it would shut off? If it were a problem with the ram, how would I tell for sure. It's difficult to test, because it's a random problem. Thanks! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime
On Mar 17, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Thanks for all the replies so far! The power light is normal now. Twice now, when I've booted it up it goes into Open Firmware, and says Device still fails after x tries or something like that. I ran the ASD again, but after it passed, It all of a sudden shut off. This was about 10 hours after it passed, I've run it for longer than that after passing, so I know this isn't normal. There is no service lights on. I will try resetting the PMU. Any ideas why it would shut off? If it were a problem with the ram, how would I tell for sure. It's difficult to test, because it's a random problem. Thanks! -Jonas -- I would reseat the processors and reset the CUDA switch. It may be the power supply with a capacitor heating up and momentarily failing. I had my 2.7 shutting down like that when the logic board started to fail and the ASD always passed. I finally got another board and alls well now. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up
Il giorno 17-03-2012 23:43, JohnCarmonne ha scritto: Is it possible that when you shut it down you had a Toast or labeling program up and the application didn't quit normal but forced quit due to shut down? No, I'd say no apps like that running, and definitely none of them forced quit. OTOH, when I close Skype (v. 2.8.0.866) it often gives an error (like Unexpectedly quit or something). I wonder if that happens while shutting down the G5, and it causes something on the subsequent boot. But why Skype would have something to do with the optical drive? I have happen sometimes but mine opens and closes. Mine remains open (when it opens by itself). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up
On Mar 17, 2012, at 7:42 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 17-03-2012 23:43, JohnCarmonne ha scritto: Is it possible that when you shut it down you had a Toast or labeling program up and the application didn't quit normal but forced quit due to shut down? No, I'd say no apps like that running, and definitely none of them forced quit. OTOH, when I close Skype (v. 2.8.0.866) it often gives an error (like Unexpectedly quit or something). I think DiskWarrior will take care of the Skype quit issue. I wonder if that happens while shutting down the G5, and it causes something on the subsequent boot. But why Skype would have something to do with the optical drive? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 Constant HD activity
When I have the system on, why would the HD be constantly quietly chattering away to itself? It'll pause and be quiet for 10 sec or so and then start up again. G5 Dual 1.8 GHz 2GB SDRAM 10.4.11 RUNNING APPS: MAIL CALENDAR TEXT EDIT APPLEWORKS 6 ITUNES 8.2.1 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up
- Original Message - Il giorno 17-03-2012 23:40, Cameron Kaiser ha scritto: Mouse glitch where it thinks the button is down? Yeah, I thought about that. But I never touch the mouse when I boot up, and I cannot think why it would behave that way only once in a couple weeks (or more). BTW, the mouse is, actually, a Wacom Graphire 4x5 tablet (ET-0405-U) combo with tablet, mouse and pen. Although is USB connected, is NOT a standard USB device (it doesn't work in most 3D videogames, in fact). I had the same tablet with my G3 and G4 since 1998 (going from MacOS 8.6 thru 9.2.2, OSX 10.3 and 10.4), and this DVD drive issue never happened before this G5. I had my G4 DA for several years with the very same OSX (I actually cloned it to the G5 using CCC) and it never happened. So it looks more of an hardware than software issue. Perhaps a dirty or loose USB connection sending the wrong signal like a depressed mouse button? I had the same problem with a Sawtooth G4 and at first thought it was a firmware problem with the upgraded DVD drive. When I replaced the Sawtooth with DA attached to the same keyboard and mouse the problem continued with the tray opening on every boot. The mouse was connected to the USB port on the keyboard and the keyboard was connected to the logicboard. After reading Cameron's recent post I unplugged everything from the USB ports on the DA logicboard and rebooted, The DVD tray did not open on boot for the first time in months. I reseated all USB connections and rebooted without the problem. Thus I would look for a dirty or loose USB connection or bad cable or a faulty USB port causing the problem -- glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Constant HD activity
On Mar 17, 2012, at 8:16 PM, JohnV wrote: When I have the system on, why would the HD be constantly quietly chattering away to itself? It'll pause and be quiet for 10 sec or so and then start up again. Probably Spotlight doing it's thing. Fire up Activity monitor and watch what's at the top of the activity list during quiet times, nbet it's something called 'mdworker', which is the Spotlight maintenance process. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 One Beep Before Chime
On Mar 17, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Any ideas why it would shut off? If it were a problem with the ram, how would I tell for sure. It's difficult to test, because it's a random problem. Install Applejack, and run memtest. See the AppleJack readme, because it's not in the normal menu. This will tell you which stick is bad. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Constant HD activity
At 11:16 PM -0400 3/17/2012, JohnV wrote: [G5 Dual 1.8 GHz 2GB SDRAM 10.4.11] When I have the system on, why would the HD be constantly quietly chattering away to itself? It'll pause and be quiet for 10 sec or so and then start up again. RUNNING APPS: MAIL CALENDAR TEXT EDIT APPLEWORKS 6 ITUNES 8.2.1 Probably Spotlight's indexing processes. They do their work at low priority, during idle times. Launch Activity Monitor. Set it to update less frequently. View all processes. Sort by %cpu, in descending order. Give it about 15 secs to update a couple of times, and average out the numbers. Then take note of the top processes. The Spotlight processes go by names like mds and mdimport and mdworker etc. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Constant HD activity
mdimport seems to be the one... thanks. On Mar 18, 2012, at 12:03 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 17, 2012, at 8:16 PM, JohnV wrote: When I have the system on, why would the HD be constantly quietly chattering away to itself? It'll pause and be quiet for 10 sec or so and then start up again. Probably Spotlight doing it's thing. Fire up Activity monitor and watch what's at the top of the activity list during quiet times, nbet it's something called 'mdworker', which is the Spotlight maintenance process. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list