Re: Security

2012-08-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
A good start is something like this:

http://books.google.com/books/about/A_Practical_Guide_To_Unix_For_Mac_Os_X_U.html?id=o9K8KEQic5sC

A little old, but it'll get you started.

Care to share the article links you're looking at? We can help decipher them. 

Turning on the firewall is good, knowing which services to allow and not allow 
is simple for someone who knows the OS inside and out, but to a newb (and we've 
all been there, including me) it can be well nigh unintelligible.



On Aug 17, 2012, at 7:20 AM, JohnV wrote:

 Yes Master. I will Master. I will study these things you have shown me. You 
 have so much knowledge, Master, I will try to understand but there is SO 
 much...   Ignorance is NOT bliss...  and I will still try to walk the rice 
 paper, even though all I can manage so far is to blow my nose on it.

Well, someday, grasshopper, you will snatch the pebble from my hand, and if 
it's by sneaking up behind me with a 2x4 you will have learned well! 8-P


 
   John Vengrouskie
 
 On Aug 16, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 
 On Aug 16, 2012, at 8:19 AM, JohnV wrote:
 
 iMac intel
 
 In playing with security/firewall settings while reading aricles on Mac 
 vulnerabilities, I changed a setting and now, when I fire up the iMac 
 (10.6.8) , after logging in, I get a stacked set of identical windows, each 
 asking if I want to ALLOW or DENY a named application to have access. I 
 clicked on DENY on each but would appreciate a clue about what these things 
 ARE.
 
 
 You went and fiddled with things you do not comprehend, Grasshopper, and now 
 it's broken. 8-)
 
 Go forth and undo your doings. These are all things that OS X normally uses 
 behind the scenes to do things.
 
 Google is your friend, man is your less friendly, but very knowledgeable 
 local geeky 'friend'.
 
 Denying these services means you : cannot share files, cannot connect to 
 Windows shares, cannot print.
 
 This is a common consequence of encountering scary security and 
 vulnerability articles with not enough understanding of the underlying 
 processes and systems involved.
 
 There are a lot of FUD-ish articles out there that make it sound as if your 
 Mac is merely seconds away from being completely taken over by Albanian 
 criminal hacker terrorists intent on using your mac to trade child porn, 
 nuclear secrets and celebrity email passwords, and getting you thrown in 
 Gitmo while stealing every cent you own and taking out 14 billion dollars in 
 loans in your name from banks run by Russian mobsters, who WILL pay to 
 invent a time machine to go back in time to threaten castrating your 
 grandfather before your father was born to force you to pay back the loans...
 
 Out of the box, if nothing is turned on in the Sharing pane, your Mac is 
 pretty much immune to outside attacks as is. If you're connected behind a 
 typical DSL or Cable router using NAT, your mac is pretty much immune to 
 outside attacks as is.
 
 All of these things are parts of services that are called when you have 
 stuff in the sharing pane ticked.
 
 krb5kdc
 
 Kerberos, used for authentication by a host of services
 
 NAME
   krb5kdc - Kerberos V5 KDC
 
 SYNOPSIS
   krb5kdc  [  -a ] [ -x db_args ] [ -d dbname ] [ -k keytype ] [ -M mkey-
   name ] [ -p portnum ] [ -m ] [ -r realm ] [ -4 v4mode ] [ -n ]
 
 DESCRIPTION
   krb5kdc is the Kerberos version 5 Authentication Service and  Key  Dis-
   tribution Center (AS/KDC).
 
 
 nmbd
 
 Look, you cannot share with Windows systems now.
 
 NAME
   nmbd  -  NetBIOS name server to provide NetBIOS over IP naming services
   to clients
 
 SYNOPSIS
   nmbd [-D]  [-F]  [-S]  [-a]  [-i]  [-o]  [-h]  [-V]  [-d debug level]
[-H lmhosts file]  [-l log directory] [-p port number] [-s con-
figuration file]
 
 DESCRIPTION
   This program is part of the samba(7) suite.
 
 
 
 smbd
 
 Now you cannot mount volumes from Windows servers, either (or linux ones, or 
 many NAS boxes)
 
 NAME
   smbd - server to provide SMB/CIFS services to clients
 
 SYNOPSIS
   smbd   [-D]   [-F]   [-S]   [-i]   [-h]  [-V]  [-b]  [-d debug level]
[-l log directory]   [-p port number(s)][-P profiling level]
[-O socket option] [-s configuration file]
 
 DESCRIPTION
   This program is part of the samba(7) suite.
 
 
 
 cupsd
 
 The CUPS (heart of the printing system in OS X) central dispatcher. Since 
 the Mac uses 'network' printing even to use locally attached printers, 
 preventing cupsd from doing it's thing, means you cannot print.
 
 cupsd(8)  Apple Inc.  
 cupsd(8)
 
 NAME
   cupsd - cups scheduler
 
 SYNOPSIS
   cupsd [ -c config-file ] [ -f ] [ -F ] [ -h ] [ -l ] [ -t ]
 
 DESCRIPTION
   cupsd  is the scheduler for CUPS. It implements a printing system based
   upon the Internet Printing Protocol, version 2.1.  If  no  options  are
   specified on the command-line then 

Re: Failure to Import Mail

2012-08-17 Thread Dan

At 7:53 AM -0700 8/16/2012, Al Poulin wrote:

Using POP mail works well for the way my wife and I share an e-mail
account on separate Macs at home. I am using Apple Mail in OS X 10.6.8
Snow Leopard on an iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. In preparing for a
vacation trip, I attempted to move my e-mail holdings from the iMac to
an iBook G4 1.33 GHz (2005) running the latest version of OS X 10.5
Leopard.

With an Ethernet connection, the methods that I attempted failed,
including Import at the iBook from Apple Mail, Import at the iBook
from Files in mbox format, and simply copying the Mail folder from
the iMac's user Library.

Is there a way to do this? Something like ChronoSync perhaps? Thanks,


In each release, Apple has made changes in the way their Mail app 
stores data.  So I would not expect the older Mail app to be able to 
talk to the data from the newer Mail app.


Not sure if manually changing the folder structure would be enough. 
I'm thinking Mail probably made changes to the individual file 
contents too.


If you changed both to use IMAP, perhaps that would let you keep 
things in sync - at least for newer messages.


- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

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Re: Failure to Import Mail

2012-08-17 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Aug 17, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Dan wrote:

 At 7:53 AM -0700 8/16/2012, Al Poulin wrote:
 Using POP mail works well for the way my wife and I share an e-mail
 account on separate Macs at home. I am using Apple Mail in OS X 10.6.8
 Snow Leopard on an iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. In preparing for a
 vacation trip, I attempted to move my e-mail holdings from the iMac to
 an iBook G4 1.33 GHz (2005) running the latest version of OS X 10.5
 Leopard.
 
 With an Ethernet connection, the methods that I attempted failed,
 including Import at the iBook from Apple Mail, Import at the iBook
 from Files in mbox format, and simply copying the Mail folder from
 the iMac's user Library.
 
 Is there a way to do this? Something like ChronoSync perhaps? Thanks,
 
 In each release, Apple has made changes in the way their Mail app stores 
 data.  So I would not expect the older Mail app to be able to talk to the 
 data from the newer Mail app.
 
 Not sure if manually changing the folder structure would be enough. I'm 
 thinking Mail probably made changes to the individual file contents too.
 
 If you changed both to use IMAP, perhaps that would let you keep things in 
 sync - at least for newer messages.

What Dan says: you can import mail going forwards, but not 
backwards...fundamentally you're trying to make POP do the job that IMAP was 
invented for. 

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs


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Re: Failure to Import Mail

2012-08-17 Thread Al Poulin


On Aug 17, 1:12 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:


 What Dan says: you can import mail going forwards, but not 
 backwards...fundamentally you're trying to make POP do the job that IMAP was 
 invented for.

Thanks Bruce and Dan for the insight into what Apple did to Mail,
essentially making it impossible to import from newer to older
versions of its own software, but ironically taking care of switchers,
eh?

Anyway, my wife and I will stick with POP. In our joint account, I
don't want her erasing what I want to archive, nor to I want to erase
hers.

Al Poulin

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