Re: Power Mac G3 Beige: No Video

2012-09-26 Thread Nabil
El 26/09/2012, a las 06:12, Wayne Stewart escribió:

 You might check to see if the personality card is fully seated. Sometimes in 
 handling the front gets lifted out of the socket. If it is then the built-in 
 video port won't work

Just checked it and it's okay.

 Only get a PC Radeon card IF you have a PC or bootable Mac with alternate 
 video so that you can flash the Radeon ROM (BIOS in PC speak) to Mac. This 
 might be too complicated for you, I can help, and it doesn't take too long if 
 you know what you're doing, but it's a hassle. If you don't have any way to 
 flash a cheap $10 PC card you'll be stuck having to buy a Mac card. Someone 
 might sell a Mac card cheap on LEM-Swap list if you place a WTB?

I will buy a PC card. I have the required equipment to do it (PC and PowerMac 
G4), found this explaining how to do it:
http://web.archive.org/web/20100522054343/http://www.darkness.uklinux.net/

Is it accurate?

Thanks!

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Re: screen saver photos

2012-09-26 Thread John Laughlin
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:53 PM, JohnV vengbj...@verizon.net wrote:
 so trying a rotate and save in PREVIEw might work ?

Either that, or just resaving in Preview.  Frequently, all I have to
do is resave the image file, and it gets oriented correctly.

-John

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Dual 2.0ghz G5 won't boot after being unplugged overnight....

2012-09-26 Thread spilrules
Yesterday we had a thunder storm and when leaving my office I not only 
turned off my power strip that our (G5 DP2.0ghz, 4.5gb ram) computer was 
plugged into, but I also unplugged the power cord from the strip/surge 
protector. I usually just turn off the surge protector when we have a 
storm, but after my father's G4 lost it's power supply after a bad storm a 
couple weeks ago, I decided to unplug the cord as well. This morning it 
chimed but soon stopped everything at the gray apple screen. I held in the 
power button to shut it down and after trying again it chimed and then the 
light above the power button now just blinks 3 times every 5 seconds or so. 
Then the chime went away and it just blinks 3 times as mentioned. I wanted 
to do a pram reset however it does not chime. I tried replacing the pram 
battery but it still does this blinking thing. I assume that is an 
indicator of the problem and am hopeful someone here can help me get back 
running again.
Thanks in advance for your help!

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Re: screen saver photos

2012-09-26 Thread Dan

At 2:39 PM -0400 09/25/2012, JohnV wrote:

G5 1.8 dual running 10.4.11 on 2 monitors

I have a folder of pictures that cycle through the screensaver 
slideshow thing.
Why do some of them still show up sideways (which is indeed the way 
they were shot)? Yes, I've gone through and  rotated those of  them 
rightside-up, and indeed those DO show up correctly-oriented when 
viewed in the FINDER, or GRAPHIC CONVERTOR and PREVIEW... but not in 
the screensaver slideshow.


Go into the screen saver system preferences, select a different 
folder then re-select your folder as the slideshow.  I've noticed 
that once it generates the cached image, it prefers it and seems to 
not re-check the original.


HTH,
- Dan.
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Re: Power Mac G3 Beige: No Video

2012-09-26 Thread Kris Tilford

On Sep 26, 2012, at 7:50 AM, Nabil wrote:

I will buy a PC card. I have the required equipment to do it (PC and  
PowerMac G4), found this explaining how to do it:

http://web.archive.org/web/20100522054343/http://www.darkness.uklinux.net/

Is it accurate?


Yes, although I've never gone as far as soldering a new ROM chip onto  
a card. If the ROM is the smaller size, there is a special reduced  
size ROM file that works in the smaller ROM chips.


Also, there can be some problems with the speed of the physical VRAM  
on the PC cards which in rare circumstances can cause video glitches.  
This can be corrected by using a custom ROM file, or adjusting the ROM  
clock in software using ATIcellerator II. I prefer the custom ROM if  
this is necessary. The Mac Radeon 7000 only came in a single version  
which has 50ns (ns=nano second) VRAM chips, which correspond to a  
clock rate of 183 MHz. The Mac ROM normally sets the GPU  Bus speeds  
to 183 MHz.


The PC cards came with a variety of VRAM chips that vary from a slow  
of 75ns, but also come in 70, 60, 50, 40, or 35ns speeds. If your card  
has chips that are SLOWER than 50ns (i.e. 75, 70, or 60ns) there will  
be video glitches  artifacts because the clock rate of 183 MHz will  
be too high for these slower chips. Sometimes it's not a problem, it's  
like overclocking the slow chips, and sometimes they overclock OK, but  
if not, you can either create, or download, a slower ROM. There's a  
166MHz ROM common for download that will normally fix this issue.


The VRAM chips have a # printed on them, and there is a - at the end  
of this # followed by the speed in ns, so the number would be  
something like -50 if the chip was a 50ns chip, and  
-35 if it was a FASTER 35ns chip. Since 50ns is the  
standard Mac chip, it always works. If the chips are FASTER (i.e. 40  
or 35ns) then you can safely overclock the card to a higher clock  
rate, probably 200MHz, or maybe even 225MHz. There's no need to  
overclock, the faster chips will work perfectly with the standard  
183MHz Mac ROM, they will run cooler and effectively be underclocked.  
Most likely you won't need to deal with this aspect of custom clock  
rates and can simply flash the card with a standard Mac ROM and it  
will function fine.


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Re: screen saver photos

2012-09-26 Thread JohnV
Thanks for the suggestion, but  I chose a different folder. left SYST  
PREFS and  then went back in and reset to teh one I want


no difference,


On Sep 26, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Dan wrote:


At 2:39 PM -0400 09/25/2012, JohnV wrote:

G5 1.8 dual running 10.4.11 on 2 monitors

I have a folder of pictures that cycle through the screensaver  
slideshow thing.
Why do some of them still show up sideways (which is indeed the  
way they were shot)? Yes, I've gone through and  rotated those of   
them rightside-up, and indeed those DO show up correctly-oriented  
when viewed in the FINDER, or GRAPHIC CONVERTOR and PREVIEW... but  
not in the screensaver slideshow.


Go into the screen saver system preferences, select a different  
folder then re-select your folder as the slideshow.  I've noticed  
that once it generates the cached image, it prefers it and seems to  
not re-check the original.


HTH,
- Dan.
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Re: G5 Repair - Next step?

2012-09-26 Thread DLC
Hello MJoeYoung,
Thank you for the help and link for prospective parts.
Here is what I did recently:
replaced the PRAM,
swapped the CPUs (A to B, and vs. a vs.)
made sure the CPUs were well-seated.
Of course, having to take apart the G5 (not as bad a project as I
thought), that gave me a chance to reseat everything.
I also inspected the board - no noticeably bad elements, though I
suspect the ROM chip may have gotten fried (I have no actual evidence
to this effect, just a gut feeling based on the way the unit boots up.
Thank you for the link. The motherboard is less in $$ than
anticipated, so, I need to decide to invest a little in the hopes that
it offers the cure, or simply give up and part out the unit.
Thank you again for all your contributions on this project.
Dana

On Sep 25, 11:40 am, mjoeyoung mjoeyo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I want to confirm that you switched CPUs (A in B slot and B in A slot) and
 that they were both seated properly when you turned the computer on.  If
 CPU A is bad and CPU B is good putting CPU B in the A spot and CPU A in the
 B spot should allow the computer to boot.  Both CPUs (even if one is bad)
 need to be installed for the computer to work.  When I was fixing my
 problem I had both issues (unseated and only one installed).

 One of the earlier G5s was able to run with only one CPU installed in a 2
 CPU system so you could try that, but I think it was an earlier model to
 yours.

 Have you replaced the battery?  That can be the cause of various issues.

 I do not know of any motherboard checks except for visual inspection of bad
 capacitors.  If the computer is making sounds and the fans eventually go
 into wind tunnel mode I would think the power supply is probably okay.  The
 chance that BOTH processors went bad at the same time seems slim.  So, I
 would guess logic board.

 I fixed mine on a whim just to see if it was possible before getting rid of
 it.  These computers are so cheap now that it is almost not worth the
 time/effort to repair them.  This is the 
 storehttp://www.electronicscafe.com/ I
 purchased my parts from.  They also sell on ebay.  They have a motherboard
 that might work for about $17 and a pair of cpus for $25.

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