Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard

2012-10-12 Thread DLC
Thank you for the response.
WHERE can I obtain this disc? (Apple Service Diagnostic 2.5.8)
Thanks!
Dana

On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:56:26 PM UTC-4, DLC wrote:

 Greetings all.
 I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz CPUs 
 w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from the 
 list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the motherboard. 
 I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would like to execute 
 the swap-out. Here is my question:
 once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to 
 have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD and 
 service code to initialize it/them?
 I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way.
 Thanks in advance for your advice.
 Regards,
 Dana


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Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard

2012-10-12 Thread DLC
Hi Andreas,
Thank you for the information and response. Very helpful.
Where can I obtain such a disc?
Most sites that tout a free download isn't such at all (membership fee 
with no guarantee that I'll get what I need), or outright bogus.
Any concrete directions would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Dana

On Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:53:57 AM UTC-4, Mac User #330250 wrote:

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 Subject: Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard 
 Date:Sunday, 07. October 2012 
 From:DLC dlcat...@gmail.com javascript: 
 To:  G-Group g3-5...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
  Greetings all, 
  Still curious about this scenario. Simply, can one swap good G5 CPUs 
  into a replacement motherboard without any problems? 
  Thanks, 
  Dana 
  
  On Oct 2, 10:56 pm, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote: 
   Greetings all. 
   I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz 
 CPUs 
   w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from 
   the list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the 
   motherboard. I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would 
   like to execute the swap-out. Here is my question: 
   once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to 
   have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD 
   and service code to initialize it/them? 
   I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way. 
   Thanks in advance for your advice. 
   Regards, 
   Dana 

 From what I’ve heard, you will require a Apple Service Diagnostics disc 
 from 
 which you have to boot and to recalibrate the CPUs with the mainboard. If 
 you 
 don’t, you might get very loud fans in the good scenario or burn anything 
 on 
 the mainboard or the CPUs in the bad scenario. 

 But this is just what I heard, not what I know. 

 The thing with the service code to activate them is also something that 
 sounds 
 reasonable to me… 

 For G5s, you need the 2.5.7 ASD discs. For the Late-2005 G5s, the last G5s 
 built, you will require the 2.5.8 ASD discs. 

 You may be able to find a downloadable version, but be aware that Apple 
 never 
 officially made a download available for this. 
 Since Apple abandoned the Power Macs in my sense you can consider it to be 
 Abandonware though. 

 The swap will work if the CPU is the same series. For instance, you will 
 have 
 to use a PowerPC 970 processor for the original G5, a PowerPC 970fx will 
 not 
 work. And I’m pretty sure that for the later models using the PowerPC 
 970fx 
 processors, a PowerPC 970 will not work. The same goes for the PowerPC 
 970MP 
 which can only be found in the Late-2005 G5s. 

 The June-2004 has PowerPC 970fx processors. 

 Good luck! 
 Cheers, 
 Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250 


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Can’t adjust brightness on ADC monitor

2012-10-12 Thread Geke
I have two monitors on a PowerMac G4 (dual 500MHz): one is a Viewsonic
on DVI, the other an Apple Studio 17 on ADC.
Is it normal that I can’t adjust the brightness on the Apple monitor
now?
There’s no slider for it in the screen’s preferences, and pressing the
button on the screen frame doesn’t bring up the usual dialog.
Maybe I should mention that both monitors are connected to the same
graphics card, a GeForce4 MX (AGP).

If this is indeed the common behaviour, my theory is that the OS
(10.4.11) can’t get a handle on the Viewsonic’s brightness, and then
disables the software control for both.
But I think it’s strange, given that other settings can be adjusted
for each screen separately.

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Re: Can’t adjust brightness on ADC monitor

2012-10-12 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Oct 12, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Geke wrote:

 I have two monitors on a PowerMac G4 (dual 500MHz): one is a Viewsonic
 on DVI, the other an Apple Studio 17 on ADC.
 Is it normal that I can’t adjust the brightness on the Apple monitor
 now?

Now implies something has changed...what is it? Do you get the expected 
behavior back when whatever that is is undone? You should be able to do 
everything separately on the two monitors. Did you try trashing the display 
prefs? Changing monitor profiles?


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Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard

2012-10-12 Thread Mac User #330250
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Subject: Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
Date:Friday, 12. October 2012
From:DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Thank you for the response.
 WHERE can I obtain this disc? (Apple Service Diagnostic 2.5.8)
 Thanks!
 Dana

Search the site where you normally find what you shouldn’t normally legally 
find there… I hope this is not too obscure…

It sound something like the signs you read on buildings sometimes: TO RENT 
(but written differently).

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard

2012-10-12 Thread Mac User #330250
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Subject: Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
Date:Friday, 12. October 2012
From:DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 WHERE can I obtain this disc? (Apple Service Diagnostic 2.5.8)

Oh, forgot: for a “June 2004” you’re propably better off with ASD 2.5.7…

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PowerMac G5 Won't Power Up, Light Stays On

2012-10-12 Thread Jonas Ulrich
Hi all, hoping I can get some help with this problem. I received two
identical 1.6GHZ G5 Towers. I plugged them both in, and as soon as I
plugged in the monitor, the computer powered up and booted into OSX. I shut
it down, but instead of shutting down, it just restarts.

I tried plugging the monitor and keyboard in, then the power cord. It
didn't power up, but the power light stays on, and the computer won't power
up when you press the power button. I tried zapping the PRAM, which didn't
help.

These two computers have the exact same problem, so any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

-Jonas

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Re: PowerMac G5 Won't Power Up, Light Stays On

2012-10-12 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Oct 12, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

 Hi all, hoping I can get some help with this problem. I received two 
 identical 1.6GHZ G5 Towers. I plugged them both in, and as soon as I plugged 
 in the monitor, the computer powered up and booted into OSX. I shut it down, 
 but instead of shutting down, it just restarts.
 
 I tried plugging the monitor and keyboard in, then the power cord. It didn't 
 power up, but the power light stays on, and the computer won't power up when 
 you press the power button. I tried zapping the PRAM, which didn't help.

What is the monitor? I had a similar issue with a G5 with a Apple ADC 23 
Studio monitor plugged in; it turned out to be a bad power brick for the 
monitor. When I plugged in a monitor to the DVI connection it worked.

Apple shipped a lower wattage unit with the 23; this professor went through 
two of them under warrantee, until he got Apple to swap it out for a power 
brick from a 30...no problems since.

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