Re: Folder access

[JohnV]

Here's what shows up in the finder window for the volume in question
all are folders EXCEPT the last item bbc website

_CCC Archives

AA DRESCUE WORK

AA TEMP BACKUP OF g5

-   aaa WEB CURRENT EXPORT SITE

-   Desktop

-   Desktop Folder

-   digital pix 2 GC

-   Gen Docs  2007

-   ITUNES 2007

-   MUSIC AND MEDIA PROJECTS

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17162066.webloc




Following you as best I can here's what I got:


Last login: Thu Dec 20 13:58:45 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
new-host:~ johnvengrouskie$ cd /Volumes/
-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
new-host:~ johnvengrouskie$ cd /Volumes/
-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
new-host:~ johnvengrouskie$ cd /Volumes/G5\ HD2\ SG2T
new-host:/Volumes/G5 HD2 SG2T johnvengrouskie$ ls -al
total 688
drwxrwxrwx   23 johnveng  johnveng 884 Dec 18 15:49 .
drwxrwxrwt   10 root  admin340 Dec 18 15:41 ..
-rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng  johnveng   21508 Dec 20 13:50 .DS_Store
drw-rw-rw-7 root  johnveng 238 Dec 18 15:41 .Spotlight-V100
drwxrwxrwt3 johnveng  johnveng 102 Nov 29  2011 .TemporaryItems
drwxrwxrwt3 root  admin102 Dec 18 15:41 .Trashes
-rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng  johnveng   0 Nov 24   
2011 .com.apple.timemachine.supported
-rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng  johnveng   0 Dec 18  
15:48 .com.bombich.ccc.start_time

drwxrwxrwx3 johnveng  johnveng 102 Nov 24  2011 AA DRESCUE WORK
drwxrwxrwx4 johnveng  johnveng 136 Dec  5  2011 AA TEMP  
BACKUP OF g5

drwxrw-rw-5 johnveng  johnveng 170 Sep  9 16:51 Desktop
-rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng  johnveng  158720 Nov 23  2011 Desktop DB
-rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng  johnveng  155714 Nov  6 20:42 Desktop DF
drwxrwxrwx2 johnveng  johnveng  68 Jan  8  2012 Desktop Folder
drwxrwxrwx   10 johnveng  johnveng 340 Dec 19 17:40 Gen Docs   
2007

drwxrwxrwx   11 johnveng  johnveng 374 May 29  2012 ITUNES 2007
drwxrwxrwx   10 johnveng  johnveng 340 Dec  6  2011 MUSIC AND  
MEDIA PROJECTS

drwxrwxrwx2 johnveng  johnveng  68 Jan  8  2012 Temporary Items
drwxrwxrwx3 johnveng  johnveng 102 Nov 18  2011  
TheVolumeSettingsFolder

drwxrwxrwx3 johnveng  johnveng 102 Dec 18 15:48 _CCC Archives
drwxrwxrwx   30 johnveng  johnveng1020 Feb 15  2011 aaa WEB  
CURRENT EXPORT SITE

drwxrwxrwx   23 johnveng  johnveng 782 Jan  4  2012 digital pix 2 GC
-rw-rw-rw-1 johnveng  johnveng 270 Feb 26  2012  
www.bbc.co.uk:news:world-europe-17162066.webloc

new-host:/Volumes/G5 HD2 SG2T johnvengrouskie$


On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Dec 20, 2012, at 12:11 PM, JohnV wrote:


CORRECTION.
Apologies
I inadvertently opened the internal boot drive  window, not the  
second internal drive, and it of course showed no red signs adn I  
was all-too-ready to see that.

Second internal drive still shows same red-symbol nonsense.

7 of the ten folders show red, 3 don't.


And you can access those files just fine?

in Terminal do the following:

cd /Volumes/
ls -al

Look for directories with an @  or a + on the end of the  
permissions section  (the part of the line that starts with a 'd',  
like: drwxr-xr-x3 johnson  staff   102 Jan  9  2011 Backup  
Extensions, it's 'drwxr-xr-x') ...do they correspond to the folders  
with - signs?



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Re: Folder access

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 20, 2012, at 12:11 PM, JohnV wrote:

> CORRECTION.
> Apologies
> I inadvertently opened the internal boot drive  window, not the second 
> internal drive, and it of course showed no red signs adn I was all-too-ready 
> to see that.
> Second internal drive still shows same red-symbol nonsense.
> 
> 7 of the ten folders show red, 3 don't.

And you can access those files just fine?

in Terminal do the following:

cd /Volumes/
ls -al

Look for directories with an @  or a + on the end of the permissions section  
(the part of the line that starts with a 'd', like: drwxr-xr-x3 johnson  
staff   102 Jan  9  2011 Backup Extensions, it's 'drwxr-xr-x') ...do they 
correspond to the folders with - signs?


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Re: Folder access

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Bill Connelly  wrote:

> 
> On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Bruce Johnson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> DO a Get Info in the finder for the volumem, and in the Sharing and 
>>> permissions section you can shange the permissions. You should see a gear 
>>> menu like on mine and when you change the permissions, select 'Apply to 
>>> enclosed items'.
>> 
>> Forgot to post the screenshot:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Would running applejack fix this problem?

No.


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Re: Folder access

[JohnV]

CORRECTION.
Apologies
I inadvertently opened the internal boot drive  window, not the  
second internal drive, and it of course showed no red signs adn I was  
all-too-ready to see that.

Second internal drive still shows same red-symbol nonsense.

7 of the ten folders show red, 3 don't.

JV

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Re: Folder access

[JohnV]

Just did teh Terminal thing, using your guide...
sweatingly checking my typing 3 times at every step.
System warned me of where I was fearing to tread,
put in requested password

and  absolutely NOTHING seemed to happen.

re-opened finder window on the second internal drive and ...

voila!  no symbols.

Ignorance is not bliss.
Thanks again for your clear  careful help here.

John V


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Re: Folder access

[JohnV]

If any of this sounds contentious, by no means should it be taken so,  
just being terse and clear to help focus.


On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

What is now on the internal 2T is all of the A partition but a  
bunch of the folders have a red  " - "  symbol on them.

what  is that?



That means you don't have permission to access those files.


... but I seem ot have no trouble accessing any of them I've tried...


More than likely the 'oddness' the external drive was exhibiting  
contributed to this issue.


If this is just data it should be available to everyone.

DO a Get Info in the finder for the volumem, and in the Sharing and  
permissions section you can shange the permissions. You should see  
a gear menu like on mine and when you change the permissions,  
select 'Apply to enclosed items'.


Tried this before and tried it just now on your mention.
the INFO shows that I seem to have read & wrote access.
I went ahead and told it to APPLY, it confirmed and I said OK
nothing changed for better or worse... still the red sign, still seem  
to have access.


It's odd.

I'm still nervous about screwing things up by making a mistake in  
TERMINAL but I'l give that a try next


thanks,
John Vengrouskie






Maybe, I don't have a 10.4 system at hand to test, but this is  
where you should go first.


There's also a Terminal way of doing this that'll work guaranteed:

Open terminal, and type:

cd /Volumes

And hit return.

If you type

ls

you should see a list of directories that have the names of your  
disks.


do:

sudo chmod -R a+rw ./Problem\ Volume\ Name

Substituting the problematic volume name.

the leading dot slash ./ is important, and you must precede any  
spaces in the name with a backslash \


What this command does is make all the files in that directory  
readable and writeable to all users; the -R means do this  
recursively for all enclosed files and directories.


This should make the - signs go away in Finder.



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Re: Folder access

[Bill Connelly]

On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Bruce Johnson > wrote:


DO a Get Info in the finder for the volumem, and in the Sharing and  
permissions section you can shange the permissions. You should see  
a gear menu like on mine and when you change the permissions,  
select 'Apply to enclosed items'.


Forgot to post the screenshot:







Would running applejack fix this problem?

There also may be a fix located in the CCC website ... seem to  
remember reading something about it ... could be wrong.


2¢

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Re: Folder access

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 20, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Bruce Johnson  
wrote:

> DO a Get Info in the finder for the volumem, and in the Sharing and 
> permissions section you can shange the permissions. You should see a gear 
> menu like on mine and when you change the permissions, select 'Apply to 
> enclosed items'.

Forgot to post the screenshot:




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Re: Folder access

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:38 AM, JohnV  wrote:

> replaced a second internal 300G HD in a G5 (dual 1.8   10.4.11) with a 
> Seagate 7200 2T drive as part of reorganising a mess of scattered externals. 
> One being a 3Tb seagate external, partitioned as 3 1T drives, that is geting 
> odd with partition A not showing up on all finder windows.
> 
> USed Carbon Copy to simply copy partition A to the new internal 2T drive. 
> This took a LONG time (875G) but seemed to go fine.
> What is now on the internal 2T is all of the A partition but a bunch of the 
> folders have a red  " - "  symbol on them.
> what  is that?


That means you don't have permission to access those files.

More than likely the 'oddness' the external drive was exhibiting contributed to 
this issue.

If this is just data it should be available to everyone.

DO a Get Info in the finder for the volumem, and in the Sharing and permissions 
section you can shange the permissions. You should see a gear menu like on mine 
and when you change the permissions, select 'Apply to enclosed items'.

Maybe, I don't have a 10.4 system at hand to test, but this is where you should 
go first.

There's also a Terminal way of doing this that'll work guaranteed:

Open terminal, and type:

cd /Volumes

And hit return.

If you type 

ls

you should see a list of directories that have the names of your disks.

do:

sudo chmod -R a+rw ./Problem\ Volume\ Name

Substituting the problematic volume name.

the leading dot slash ./ is important, and you must precede any spaces in the 
name with a backslash \

What this command does is make all the files in that directory readable and 
writeable to all users; the -R means do this recursively for all enclosed files 
and directories.

This should make the - signs go away in Finder.



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College of Pharmacy
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Folder access

[JohnV]

replaced a second internal 300G HD in a G5 (dual 1.8   10.4.11) with  
a Seagate 7200 2T drive as part of reorganising a mess of scattered  
externals. One being a 3Tb seagate external, partitioned as 3 1T  
drives, that is geting odd with partition A not showing up on all  
finder windows.


USed Carbon Copy to simply copy partition A to the new internal 2T  
drive. This took a LONG time (875G) but seemed to go fine.
What is now on the internal 2T is all of the A partition but a bunch  
of the folders have a red  " - "  symbol on them.

what  is that?

JV


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Re: Digest for g3-5...@googlegroups.com - 2 Messages in 1 Topic

[frrob]

Michael:

I think you might have misunderstood me. My 9600 is also the Mac edition, 
with DVI and ADC monitor connectors. I was not speaking of the *external* 
monitor connector, I was speaking of the *internal* connection for ADC on 
the card, and next to the AGP slot in the motherboard. In a MDD G4 and a G5 
they are not physically in the same position - in the G4 the connector on 
the card hangs out "orphaned", and does not plug into the ADC slot. So I 
was looking for a workaround for this. 

Thanks, 

Rob J.. 


On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:13:08 AM UTC-5, skyki...@verizon.net 
wrote:
>
> My Radeon 9600 is the Mac edition, and the monitor connectors pose no 
> problem. My monitor is a ViewSonic 930m connected via the DVI connector. No 
> problems with Safari, either.
>
> This is why I always look for genuine Mac components and have avoided 
> flashed PC cards.
>
> Michael McMurtrey
> Carrollton, TX
>
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 5:09 AM, g3-5...@googlegroups.com  wrote:
>
>   Today's Topic Summary
>
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics
>
>- Follow-up: ADC - AGP video card issues for MDD and 
> G5<#DCFF471C-2588-438F-90DA-7FC1067CD2A5@verizon.net_group_thread_0>[2 
> Updates] 
>
>   Follow-up: ADC - AGP video card issues for MDD and 
> G5
>
>frrob > Dec 18 10:35AM -0800  
>
>Hello again:
> 
>You'll recall my travails last week with the Radeon 9800 Pro that I 
>couldn't get to work properly/reliably in my 1.25 gHz DP MDD. I 
>finally 
>gave up on it, and reverted to the stock 9000. 
> 
>But I purchased a 9600 XT on eBay, which I received yesterday. The 
>machine 
>wouldn't power on with the card until I taped pins 3 & 11, which 
>didn't 
>surprise me. But I taped the pins and the machine started right up, 
>and the 
>card works fine, with a couple of caveats, which I'll get to in a 
>moment.
> 
>However, much to my chagrin, I discovered that the 9600 XT, and 
>presumably 
>other AGP/ADC video cards meant originally for the G5, does not have 
>its 
>ADC connector in the same place as the 9000, or other G4 AGP/ADC 
>cards. The 
>ADC connector for the 9600 is further back on the card than that of 
>the 
>9000. Color me stupid, but, never having poked around inside a G5, I 
>did 
>not know that the G5 and G4 had different physical locations for the 
>ADC 
>connector. I figured ADC was ADC. D'oh!
> 
>So, though the card works, I've really gained nothing by getting the 
>9600. 
>I wanted an AGP/ADC card into which I could just plug my Apple 23 inch 
>ADC 
>display. I can use my DVI - ADC adapter with the card, but what I 
>wanted 
>was a straight ADC connection. 
> 
>So, first question: my subsequent research indicates that the only 
>AGP/ADC 
>card that offers Core Image hardware acceleration, and will physically 
>work 
>with the ADC connector of the MDD, is the Radeon 9700, which, 
>apparently, 
>had a version that was designed for the MDD. Is this correct, or are 
>there 
>others I'm not aware of?
> 
>Furthermore, there is one issue with the 9600 when I use it with the 
>DVI-ADC adapter and my 23 inch cinema display. For some reason, and 
>this 
>*only* happens with the DVI-ADC adapter and the cinema display, when I 
>load 
>pages in Safari that have Flash content, Safari either hangs and 
>becomes 
>unresponsive, or quits altogether. I then get a dialog that says 
>"Safari 
>has quit unexpectedly. This may have been caused by the Flash 10.x 
>plug-in." This only happens with the 9600 - DVI - ADC - 23 inch cinema 
>combination. Any ideas what is going on here? I am guessing, but 
>perhaps 
>for some reason the Core Image hardware acceleration of the 9600 
>(which the 
>9000 doesn't have) doesn't play well with Flash and ADC? I can't 
>imagine 
>why, but there it is. 
> 
>Finally, my second question, which may be moot, but: has anyone ever 
>tried 
>to somehow adapt the ADC connector of one of these G5 ADC cards to the 
>ADC 
>connector of an MDD? It seems to me that it could be done and could 
>work. 
>The ADC connector only has two leads, which supply power for the 
>display, 
>correct? It seems to me that you might be able to come up with some 
>kind of 
>franken-connector or jumper that would let you go straight ADC. Anyone 
>know 
>anything out there? 
> 
>Thanks, 
> 
>Rob J.
> 
>
>
>Peter Devlin > Dec 18 07:47PM  
>
>> It seems to me that you might be able to come up with some kind of
>> franken-connector or jumper that would let you go straight ADC. 
>Anyone know
>> anything out there?
> 
>I've seen a G5 AGP Pro 8x card converted to work in