Re: In the Market for a G5, maybe ...

2012-12-27 Thread R. W. Smith
I have been using a G5 Quad Core with later cooling system fix for a year and 
no problems. I am using Protools with SSD and FireWire drives. I think it's an 
amazing inexpensive tool. 

Cheers, 

R. W. Smith

On Dec 17, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it 
wrote:

 Il giorno 17/12/12 13:24, Bill Connelly ha scritto:
 
 A friend suggested I upgrade to a G5 tower, after my G4 QS 2002's cpu
 went bad ...
 
 Suggestions on which ones in the G5 family (and others) to consider
 are welcomed. Not too fat in the wallet ...
 
 I'm currently using a G5 DP 2.7 GHz, I got it used 1,5 years ago.
 Great machine: fast, very silent (liquid cooled), easy to access its
 innards, very stable (I'm using it with OSX Tiger).
 Its only drawback, so far, it's power hungry: it draws from 160 Watts (idle)
 to over 300 Watts!
 
 It's way faster than the G4 Digital Audio (originally 667 MHz, upgraded with
 a 1.4 GHz CPU) that I had before. A big step forward.
 If your QS felt slow, I suggest going for a G5 (2.0 GHz or above): you won't
 need to change your software (no OS9 boot, though!), but it will be
 snappier.
 Depending on where you are, I think G5s start from 100-150$ and up.
 Definitely worth a check.
 
 Regarding realiability, I read G5s with Delphi liquid cooling are
 troublesome, but mine has a Delphi one, and so far - knock on wood! - it
 runs flawlessly.
 I think it's a matter of luck. If you don't feel like gambling ;-) better go
 with an air-cooled one (the 2.3 GHz DP seems the best choice).
 
 Here you can find info and specs about all the G5 models:
 http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/index-powermac-g5.html
 
 
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Re: My Quicksilver Dual 1GHz G4 has gone bizerk ...

2012-12-27 Thread calbert wilson
because  the  heat sink  is  not  good   please put  the  heat  sink  into  a  
plastic  bag   when you are  changing  it  
On Dec 25, 2012,  at 9:11 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:

 
 On Dec 25, 2012, at 9:04 PM, John Callahan wrote:
 
 Bill,
 Have you checked the fan that cools the heat sink. I ran my QS with the side 
 door open and discovered the heat sink cooling fan was bad. I ordered a new 
 fan and while waiting for it ran the computer with a small electric fan 
 directed at the heat sink cooling fins. New fan cost about $15.00.
 FWIW
 
 I looked at the cpu fan from outside, and it was running. Also felt a little 
 air coming from it.
 
 That wouldn't make the L3 cache appear / disappear from the Hardware list, 
 would it?
 
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Re: Apple --AHT images?

2012-12-27 Thread Bill Connelly


On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:04:30 AM UTC-4, c...@gamewood.net wrote:


 On Jun 14, 2011, at 12:24 PM, john hios wrote:

  Dan wrote:
  At 2:53 PM -0400 6/13/2011, Charles Davis wrote:
  I find myself in need of an AHT image for a Dual 2Ghz G5 tower
  Haven't been able to locate in Apple's Support area.
  Anyone have any pointers?
 
  That's not one of the ones Apple has made available for download...  
  Um contact Apple; perhaps they still have some of the  
  replacement media in stock.  If you google around, there are  
  probably sites selling 'em.  Or post a WTB on LEM Swap...
 
  - Dan.
  Hello
 
  Just went through g5 crisis, And have collected some info [pdf  
  webs ..etc ..]
 
  there is no support for PPC  any more...??? 
 
  what do you need ?? maybe I have something?
 
  joho

 I'm in need of ASD 2.5.8 [Apple Service Diagnostic (Dual Boot) 2.5.8]
 That will allow me to eliminate HARDWARE as the source of random  
 annoyances.

 A download link would do the trick --- I'm using a MDD at the moment,  
 just would like to have the speed and capacity of the Dual G5 available.

 Chuck



Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?

It's supposed to be on an Applications Install DVD that comes with OS X 
10.5.5 and greater DVDs ... I think. I have OS X 10.5 Retail which seems to 
be missing it.

Any news about the ASD diagnostic disks would be welcomed also. 

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Re: In the Market for a G5, maybe ...

2012-12-27 Thread JohnV
not hardly specific to teh G5 quads, but I think all these suffer  
from the dread Capacitor Plague form the period they were  
manufactured...
while it's a singular cause (really bad quality power suppky  
capacitoers from a specific vendorfor severakl years) the SYMPTOMS,  
as some/all/none of the caps start to get flakey can look like  
ANYTHING  else going confusingly, randomly wrong with the system.




On Dec 27, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:



On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:15 PM, R. W. Smith wrote:

I have been using a G5 Quad Core with later cooling system fix for  
a year and no problems. I am using Protools with SSD and FireWire  
drives. I think it's an amazing inexpensive tool.


Cheers,

R. W. Smith



I went on and bought a G5 Quad Core 2.5GHz

By later cooling system fix, do you mean the last cooling system  
that fixed the earlier leaking problems?


Is there any preventive maintenance you would recommend?

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Re: Apple --AHT images?

2012-12-27 Thread Fabian Fang
On Dec 27, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:

 Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?
 
 It's supposed to be on an Applications Install DVD that comes with OS X 
 10.5.5 and greater DVDs ... I think. I have OS X 10.5 Retail which seems to 
 be missing it.


I do not see it on my retail OS 10.5.6 DVD.  On the other hand, the Mac OS X 
Install Disc 1 for my old iMac G5 (iSight) includes AHT Version 2.5.3.  

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Re: Apple --AHT images?

2012-12-27 Thread Bill Connelly


On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Fabian Fang wrote:


On Dec 27, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:


Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?

It's supposed to be on an Applications Install DVD that comes with  
OS X 10.5.5 and greater DVDs ... I think. I have OS X 10.5 Retail  
which seems to be missing it.



I do not see it on my retail OS 10.5.6 DVD.  On the other hand,  
the Mac OS X Install Disc 1 for my old iMac G5 (iSight) includes AHT  
Version 2.5.3.




Hmmm ... I need 2.5.2 i think.

Where on the disk is your 2.5.3? I have an eMac Installation set of  
disks for Tiger, which is in the same era as the iMac G5 iSight.  
Wonder if its there some where ...


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Re: Apple --AHT images?

2012-12-27 Thread Mac User #330250
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Subject: Re: Apple --AHT images?
Date:Thursday, 27. December 2012
From:Bill Connelly billyca...@gmail.com
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
  I'm in need of ASD 2.5.8 [Apple Service Diagnostic (Dual Boot) 2.5.8]

Just google for it. That’s how I found it anyway.

 Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?

I have original media for AHT 2.1.1 (Power Mac G5 Mid-2004 or so) and AHT 
2.2.5 (Power Mac G5 Late-2005 i.e. Dual-Core incl. Quad). The problem is, how 
should I seperate the AHT part from the Mac OS X installation disc, because 
the media is a DVD and up- and download is therefore huge! Also, I don’t want 
to give away a full installation disc, but I’m willing to help out with the 
AHT part of it.

Does anyone know how to seperate it?

 It's supposed to be on an Applications Install DVD that comes with OS X
 10.5.5 and greater DVDs ... I think. I have OS X 10.5 Retail which seems to
 be missing it.
 
 Any news about the ASD diagnostic disks would be welcomed also.

As I understand it, ASD 2.5.8 is the last and final version for all Power Macs 
G5 except for the Late-2005 (Dual-Core CPUs, PCI-Express) series.
And ASD 2.6.3 is the final version for the Late-2005 (including the Quad) G5s.

Google is you friend.

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Apple --AHT images?

2012-12-27 Thread Bill Connelly



I'm in need of ASD 2.5.8 [Apple Service Diagnostic (Dual Boot)  
2.5.8]


Just google for it. That’s how I found it anyway.


Anyone have the AHT 2.5.2 for use with a Quad Core G5 2.5GHz?


I have original media for AHT 2.1.1 (Power Mac G5 Mid-2004 or so)  
and AHT

2.2.5 (Power Mac G5 Late-2005 i.e. Dual-Core incl. Quad).



2.5.2 is for Late 2005. Yours,  2.2.5 is Late 2004 (and so is 2.5.2)  
according to Mactracker.




Does anyone know how to seperate it?


Is AHT installed on your harddrive? Probably under Utilities?




Any news about the ASD diagnostic disks would be welcomed also.


And ASD 2.6.3 is the final version for the Late-2005 (including the  
Quad) G5s.


Any suggestions where to get this version of ASD?

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Re: Apple --AHT images?

2012-12-27 Thread Fabian Fang
On Dec 27, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:

 On Dec 27, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Fabian Fang wrote:
 
 The Mac OS X Install Disc 1 for my old iMac G5 (iSight) includes AHT Version 
 2.5.3.
 
 Hmmm ... I need 2.5.2 i think.
 
 Where on the disk is your 2.5.3? 

AHT is one of the bootable devices on the OS X Install Disc 1.  It can be 
selected by restarting a Mac with the DVD while holding down the Option Key.  
It will tell you whether your Mac is supported by this version of AHT.

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Re: Apple --AHT images?

2012-12-27 Thread Mac User #330250
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Subject: Re: Apple --AHT images?
Date:Thursday, 27. December 2012
From:Bill Connelly billycarmac...@verizon.net
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 2.5.2 is for Late 2005. Yours,  2.2.5 is Late 2004 (and so is 2.5.2)
 according to Mactracker.

You’re right. I got confused: I have 2.1.1 for the original Power Mac G5 
(PowerMac7,2), 2.2.5 for a PowerMac7,3 which is propably the Late-2004 if 
Mactrackers database states this, and 2.5.2 for the Late-2005 (PowerMac11,2).

To summarize:
AHT 2.1.1  PowerMac7,2  2003 (CPU: PowerPC970)
AHT 2.2.5  PowerMac7,3  “Late 2004” (CPU: PowerPC 970fx)
AHT 2.5.2  PowerMac11,2  “Late 2005” (CPU: PowerPC 970MP)

  Does anyone know how to seperate it?
 
 Is AHT installed on your harddrive? Probably under Utilities?

No, it cannot be installed. At least not that I heared of. It’s a bootable 
part on the gray “Install  Restore” kind of disc sets that came with the Mac. 
I guess it may be just one volume on it, but how to copy just that volume and 
retain its functionality? Should it be so easy as to copy just this one 
partition (i.e. volume)?

I’m not on a Mac right now, so I cannot check if Disk Utility sees the AHT 
partition as one seperate volume that can be copied…

 Any suggestions where to get this version of ASD?

Use Google. Use the whole name (not the abbreviation ASD), the version, and 
something that looks like “TO RENT” (one letter is missing), and you should be 
able to find it. You need of course the right download software to actually get 
it, and there has to be at least some_one_ providing it.

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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