Google Reader going away, now what?
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_other_services_axed Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do this? And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup? I don't really like NetNewsWire for a variety of reasons. I don't like the little ads, I do not like how it takes me to a webpage for a blog rather than presenting the content within itself. On Aurora, Google Reader blocks ads and many other good things to keep it low-end. Also count me among those opposed to Wordpress esp without a good rss reader! Why can't the Wordpress content automatically be forwarded to extant email lists? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Google Reader going away, now what?
I just use the News and Blogs reader in Thunderbird. Anything not great with this option? On Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:47:20 AM UTC-4, a1 wrote: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_other_services_axed Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do this? And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup? I don't really like NetNewsWire for a variety of reasons. I don't like the little ads, I do not like how it takes me to a webpage for a blog rather than presenting the content within itself. On Aurora, Google Reader blocks ads and many other good things to keep it low-end. Also count me among those opposed to Wordpress esp without a good rss reader! Why can't the Wordpress content automatically be forwarded to extant email lists? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Google Reader going away, now what?
I am not a real fan of the Thunderbird interface, either, and like NetNewsWire, it is tethered to one computer, isn't it? Here is a good article discussing the situation. Man is Google messing up. http://web.appstorm.net/roundups/rssfeeds/google-reader-is-dead-heres-what-you-need-to-replace-google-reader/ On Mar 14, 8:44 am, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote: I just use the News and Blogs reader in Thunderbird. Anything not great with this option? On Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:47:20 AM UTC-4, a1 wrote: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_... Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do this? And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup? I don't really like NetNewsWire for a variety of reasons. I don't like the little ads, I do not like how it takes me to a webpage for a blog rather than presenting the content within itself. On Aurora, Google Reader blocks ads and many other good things to keep it low-end. Also count me among those opposed to Wordpress esp without a good rss reader! Why can't the Wordpress content automatically be forwarded to extant email lists? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Google Reader going away, now what?
Understood. Yes, I read it like mail on one computer only. I can see how that's not ideal for many people. On Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:05:48 AM UTC-4, a1 wrote: I am not a real fan of the Thunderbird interface, either, and like NetNewsWire, it is tethered to one computer, isn't it? Here is a good article discussing the situation. Man is Google messing up. http://web.appstorm.net/roundups/rssfeeds/google-reader-is-dead-heres-what-you-need-to-replace-google-reader/ On Mar 14, 8:44 am, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote: I just use the News and Blogs reader in Thunderbird. Anything not great with this option? On Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:47:20 AM UTC-4, a1 wrote: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_... Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do this? And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup? I don't really like NetNewsWire for a variety of reasons. I don't like the little ads, I do not like how it takes me to a webpage for a blog rather than presenting the content within itself. On Aurora, Google Reader blocks ads and many other good things to keep it low-end. Also count me among those opposed to Wordpress esp without a good rss reader! Why can't the Wordpress content automatically be forwarded to extant email lists? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Google Reader going away, now what?
On Mar 14, 2013, at 8:05 AM, a1 arichic...@gmail.com wrote: I am not a real fan of the Thunderbird interface, either, and like NetNewsWire, it is tethered to one computer, isn't it? Here is a good article discussing the situation. Man is Google messing up. http://web.appstorm.net/roundups/rssfeeds/google-reader-is-dead-heres-what-you-need-to-replace-google-reader/ One huge point: Google reader is the google *application* to read your google *account's* RSS feeds. You can use other readers with your google account. I use Reeder on both my Macs and iPad and everything stays nicely in sync. NetNewsReader also supports a google account, iirc. And I agree with many. If the mailing lists get shut down, well, so long and thanks for all the fish. :-( Web forums are well-nigh unreadable, not easily combined and filterable (all my LEM lists are filtered into two folders in my mail client Desktops and Laptops), and I've never met one that was nearly as usable as a mailing list. In particular I HATE being sent to a web forum because 'somewhere in this frakking 3,234 screen thread is the answer to what you want, interspersed with everyone's 200 pixel high dancing avatars with another 100 px of decorative frome and dark red fonts on a black background because it looks like 1334 h4X0r eyecandy so you get like 4 actual posts per page that takes 30 seconds to reload. And FSM forbid you click on the miniscule 3-pixel high '' one pixel away from the '' icon that sends you from whatever page you were on to page 3,234, with no way back. Hmm, have I mentioned my visceral hatred of web forums before?? :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?
I was copying a very large backup file from an external USB HD device and walked away from the computer. Upon returning a couple hours later, it was not running and I tried to remember if I had shut it off or not, pretty sure I had not. I pushed the start button and nothing happened, completely dead. I noticed the power plug connected was not lit green as it usually had been. Battery indicator showed a full charge. Prior to this, I started to notice that the power cord would not change from the orange color to green when the powerbook was typically finished charging, even though the desktop showed the battery to be charged at 100%. Prior to this, about 3 days earlier, I plugged a USB flash drive in to copy a file to it, and the spinning beachball appeared and after waiting for an eternity and not being able to get the computer to respond at all, I pushed in the power button and held it for a few seconds until it shut down. Upon restart, my dock which is set to appear and disappear would not show up and I had to go to preferences and set it to always appear in order to see it. While doing this I noticed that all of the drop down menus would not highlight as you would scroll the mouse over them or pop open on tabs unless clicked. Tired from a long day, I shut it down and the next day it functioned fine as it used to. Unsure if any of this is related to it now not responding to anything at all. The battery shows a full charge when pushing the indicator button on it. The power cord is not damaged as I have 4 of them and they all work properly and light up with my other functioning 12 powerbook, but not this one, which is: Powerbook G4 1.67mhz, 15, 2 gb ram, running OSX 10.4.11 Any advice is greatly appreciated! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Google Reader going away, now what?
On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: And I agree with many. If the mailing lists get shut down, well, so long and thanks for all the fish. :-( Web forums are well-nigh unreadable, not easily combined and filterable (all my LEM lists are filtered into two folders in my mail client Desktops and Laptops), and I've never met one that was nearly as usable as a mailing list. In particular I HATE being sent to a web forum because 'somewhere in this frakking 3,234 screen thread is the answer to what you want, interspersed with everyone's 200 pixel high dancing avatars with another 100 px of decorative frome and dark red fonts on a black background because it looks like 1334 h4X0r eyecandy so you get like 4 actual posts per page that takes 30 seconds to reload. And FSM forbid you click on the miniscule 3-pixel high '' one pixel away from the '' icon that sends you from whatever page you were on to page 3,234, with no way back. Hmm, have I mentioned my visceral hatred of web forums before?? :-) Hmm, since Bruce hijacked this thread to talk about LEM going to web forums (another thread altogether), I will compound his error by seconding his visceral hatred of web forums. Add to that the pernicious and apparently unstoppable spread of clubs whereby drugstores, grocery stores, and just about every other seller of something is forcing customers to join their club or be discriminated against with higher prices. They can call it customer loyalty program or whatever BS they want, but I refuse to carry around a piece of plastic to show my fealty to every seller who wants me to buy something from them. And did I mention how I really, really hate people who don't use turn signals, and especially those who think it's perfectly all right to slow down for a stop sign but roll right on through if, in their judgment, it's safe to do so? Be careful about this LEM forum thing, Dan. I understand it makes sense for you in a lot of ways. But the downside is that it very likely will cause the disintegration of a worldwide community of like-minded folks you've spent way more than a decade creating and maintaining. So farewell, Bruce, Dan, Dan and the rest of you who have enlightened my mailbox for years. Jim Scott Eureka, CA -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Can't connect to TVGuide.com
As of yesterday I cannot connect to this site (204.153.26.245) using Safari 5.0.6, OS X 10.5.8, over Verizon's DSL. I cannot ping the site (10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss). Traceroute ends at my router IP address. This is the only site I apparently cannot contact using Safari. I can connect to it using Internet Explorer 5.2.3 and Stainless 0.8. So the problem would seem to lie within Safari. I have repaired permissions, but the problem persists. How do I fix it? Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Can't connect to TVGuide.com
On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Michael McMurtrey skyking...@verizon.net wrote: As of yesterday I cannot connect to this site (204.153.26.245) using Safari 5.0.6, OS X 10.5.8, over Verizon's DSL. I cannot ping the site (10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss). Traceroute ends at my router IP address. This means your ISP is blocking UDP packets, usually done to 'make things secure form ev1l l334 h4X0rz' and messing up everyone who has a routing problem... host 204.153.26.245 245.26.153.204.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer akamai-origin.tvguide.com. I can only get partway to it and cannot ping it at all. This is the only site I apparently cannot contact using Safari. I can connect to it using Internet Explorer 5.2.3 and Stainless 0.8. So the problem would seem to lie within Safari. I have repaired permissions, but the problem persists. How do I fix it? Clear your cache and history. Permissions have nothing to do with this. I cannot think of anything else that would block Safari from accessing the site, unless some Parental Permissions thing has been enabled? I know you can block specific websites; I don't know if this will affect all web browsers or just Safari. The ONLY time 'repair permissions' will ever fix anything is if you specifically get an error related to permissions immediately after an Apple update, either in the Finder as an actual error pop-up or in the Console. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?
thanks for the advice, however it did not solve the problem. It is still dead. Absolutely nothing happens when I push the power button. Battery still indicates full charge. Any other advice? Thanks! On Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:48:03 AM UTC-7, spilrules wrote: I was copying a very large backup file from an external USB HD device and walked away from the computer. Upon returning a couple hours later, it was not running and I tried to remember if I had shut it off or not, pretty sure I had not. I pushed the start button and nothing happened, completely dead. I noticed the power plug connected was not lit green as it usually had been. Battery indicator showed a full charge. Prior to this, I started to notice that the power cord would not change from the orange color to green when the powerbook was typically finished charging, even though the desktop showed the battery to be charged at 100%. Prior to this, about 3 days earlier, I plugged a USB flash drive in to copy a file to it, and the spinning beachball appeared and after waiting for an eternity and not being able to get the computer to respond at all, I pushed in the power button and held it for a few seconds until it shut down. Upon restart, my dock which is set to appear and disappear would not show up and I had to go to preferences and set it to always appear in order to see it. While doing this I noticed that all of the drop down menus would not highlight as you would scroll the mouse over them or pop open on tabs unless clicked. Tired from a long day, I shut it down and the next day it functioned fine as it used to. Unsure if any of this is related to it now not responding to anything at all. The battery shows a full charge when pushing the indicator button on it. The power cord is not damaged as I have 4 of them and they all work properly and light up with my other functioning 12 powerbook, but not this one, which is: Powerbook G4 1.67mhz, 15, 2 gb ram, running OSX 10.4.11 Any advice is greatly appreciated! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?
Did you take the battery completely out, wait a few and put it back in? Or try to start it without the battery? Eric From: spilrules t...@tomstock.us To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:22 PM Subject: Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead? thanks for the advice, however it did not solve the problem. It is still dead. Absolutely nothing happens when I push the power button. Battery still indicates full charge. Any other advice? Thanks! On Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:48:03 AM UTC-7, spilrules wrote: I was copying a very large backup file from an external USB HD device and walked away from the computer. Upon returning a couple hours later, it was not running and I tried to remember if I had shut it off or not, pretty sure I had not. I pushed the start button and nothing happened, completely dead. I noticed the power plug connected was not lit green as it usually had been. Battery indicator showed a full charge. Prior to this, I started to notice that the power cord would not change from the orange color to green when the powerbook was typically finished charging, even though the desktop showed the battery to be charged at 100%. Prior to this, about 3 days earlier, I plugged a USB flash drive in to copy a file to it, and the spinning beachball appeared and after waiting for an eternity and not being able to get the computer to respond at all, I pushed in the power button and held it for a few seconds until it shut down. Upon restart, my dock which is set to appear and disappear would not show up and I had to go to preferences and set it to always appear in order to see it. While doing this I noticed that all of the drop down menus would not highlight as you would scroll the mouse over them or pop open on tabs unless clicked. Tired from a long day, I shut it down and the next day it functioned fine as it used to. Unsure if any of this is related to it now not responding to anything at all. The battery shows a full charge when pushing the indicator button on it. The power cord is not damaged as I have 4 of them and they all work properly and light up with my other functioning 12 powerbook, but not this one, which is: Powerbook G4 1.67mhz, 15, 2 gb ram, running OSX 10.4.11 Any advice is greatly appreciated! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Thank you LEM - WAS::: Re: Google Reader going away, now what?
Its often difficult to impossible to understand the reasoning behind a move like this from the outside, and since I do not provide support to LEM first hand, I realize exactly where my opinion weighs. I would ask that some form of a mailing list, such as Mailman, or something similar be retained. I do not plan to follow if the list is moved from a mail list to a web based forum. If LEM end up as only a web based forum, I would like to take this time, when we are all still together as a group, to say thank you to everyone who made LEM happen. It was a great run and I very much appreciated all of the efforts made that kept this list alive. Jerry On 03/14/13 01:11 PM, Jim Scott wrote: Hmm, since Bruce hijacked this thread to talk about LEM going to web forums (another thread altogether), I will compound his error by seconding his visceral hatred of web forums. Add to that the pernicious and apparently unstoppable spread of clubs whereby drugstores, grocery stores, and just about every other seller of something is forcing customers to join their club or be discriminated against with higher prices. They can call it customer loyalty program or whatever BS they want, but I refuse to carry around a piece of plastic to show my fealty to every seller who wants me to buy something from them. And did I mention how I really, really hate people who don't use turn signals, and especially those who think it's perfectly all right to slow down for a stop sign but roll right on through if, in their judgment, it's safe to do so? Be careful about this LEM forum thing, Dan. I understand it makes sense for you in a lot of ways. But the downside is that it very likely will cause the disintegration of a worldwide community of like-minded folks you've spent way more than a decade creating and maintaining. So farewell, Bruce, Dan, Dan and the rest of you who have enlightened my mailbox for years. Jim Scott Eureka, CA -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What killed the G4 Powerbook, i.e. is it really dead?
On Mar 14, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Eric Hall wrote: Did you take the battery completely out, wait a few and put it back in? Or try to start it without the battery? Take the battery out, unplug the adapter and press the power button and wait 10 minutes. Then reconnect power and hit the power button, then insert the battery. This should drain any capacitors that may be holding enough charge to keep some circuits powered and in a confused state. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Can't connect to TVGuide.com
On Mar 14, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Ken Daggett kadagg...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 Mar 2013, at 12:01:29 PDT, Bruce Johnson wrote: I can only get partway to it and cannot ping it at all. --- Firefox 3.6.2.8 popped right to the site. All my browsers were able to get to it. However a large number of networks block the UDP packets that ping and traceroute use, as a security measure. (They can be used in reconnaisance of networks, as well in some cases, used in DDOS-style attacks.) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Google Reader going away, now what?
On Mar 14, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Koralatov li...@koralatov.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 16:21, Bruce Johnson wrote: One huge point: Google reader is the google *application* to read your google *account's* RSS feeds. You can use other readers with your google account. I use Reeder on both my Macs and iPad and everything stays nicely in sync. NetNewsReader also supports a google account, iirc. Google Reader is both the web-app, and the syncing back-end that keeps $RSS_APP in sync across your machines. As I understand it, which may not be entirely correct, when Google Reader goes away, the syncing API and corresponding functionality goes away too… Yah I've been doing some more reading about that. This suxrox badly. Per the twittertwatter machine, though, at least the author of Reeder is promising ongoing support of some sort. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
On 13 Mar, Dan Knight blerted: We've started the process of migrating to WordPress forums, and today I'm announcing that the Power Macs (G3-5) forum is ready to go. Please go to \url\ and create a login ID and password so you can participate. Apropos to what? What is the point of this transition? As I replied to Dan's blert on the iMac List, and got NO response: The ppc page takes about 45 secs to load (Safari, Leopard, QuickSilver, with a 15/5 fiber connection). The right hand column - mostly ads, keeps flashing then redrawing, making the whole page distractingly unreadable. Looks like this is site-wide? I hit the Login link and was quickly taken to a login page. My old LEM login doesn't work, so I hit the register link. Took me a while to realize that there is a field next to the captcha graphic -- it has no outline, so it's basically invisible. And no matter what I do, the captcha fails. Now, I'm really confused as to the whole point of this. Are you saying you're removing us from Google Groups? You're maintaining the bazillion group split? What about archives? At 1:11 AM +0100 03/14/2013, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: from the welcome message in the intel imac group: I just want to take a moment to welcome you to the first of our WordPress-based forums, which will replace the Google Groups that we've used for years. You'll be able to use the same ID and password to log into Low End Mac and the forums - and you should even be able to do that using your Facebook, Twitter, or several other social networking IDs. so, sadly, it seems we're at the end of things as we knew them :-( The blert for the iMac list was on 12 Mar. It is now two days later. Nothing has changed. The registration does not work. The page's ads still distractingly redraw. The format of the page is just not usable. format is generous. The forums there seem to be crude throwbacks from the early 1980s bbs days. At the minimum one would expect a full phpBB, that works with all browsers. Does this worpress thing even support mailing lists? Or is Dan expecting us to waste hours each day perusing individual slow forums on the web? End of things is right. At this point, I doubt I'll be making the transition. GG's mailing lists work fine. I've no interest in wasting time farking with a new set-up when the old one ain't broke. If Dan has unilaterally decided to do this, with no input from his userbase... oh well. Maybe it's time we did our own Google Groups and maybe hooked up with a site like everymac.com? That site's pages DO work on older Macs. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
1. Can't ownership of this group simply be transferred, and then we could all just stay put? 2. Can a new group be created and the archives forwarded? 3. If everyone is fed up with Google, a Yahoo group could be created, yes? 4. I have messages saved from as far back as 2004, from when the lists were at mail.maclaunch.com. I think the move to Google for these lists was the reason I made a Google account. I can't stand Chrome, the new look of the Google Groups, the Standard View of Gmail [I use the html version only]. The only thing I liked that was easy on the eyes and easy to manage was Google Reader. Somebody could get a listserv together if need be, yes? Dan can advertise and promote LEM web forums but there is no reason people could not separately, independently circulate listservs. I'd be happy to have all pre-Intel stuff in one place again. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.