Dead after copying files to an external firewire drive.
So I tried to post this 3 or 4 times to the G4 Books list and it never showed up. Also that list appears to be abandoned so I will try it here with hope of success in getting some more advice. Back in March I was copying some large files from my 15 G4 PB 1.67 model #A1138 to an external firewire HD and left my office for a couple hours. Upon returning I noticed that the computer was not running. I know I didn't shut it off and there was no power outage, as my digital clock was still set correctly on my desk. I also noticed that the AC cord that is normally lit up in a green color when plugged into the PB was not lit up. Upon trying to start the computer, there was no response at all. The battery indicator showed a full charge. I tried another AC adapter to no avail. I tested both AC adapters with my other 12 PB and they worked fine. I posted on here and tried these things based on the following advice: Reset of the power manager: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1431 Which was recommended by Bruce Johnson and it still did nothing. Take the battery out, unplug the adapter and press the power button and wait 10 minutes. Then reconnect power and hit the power button, then insert the battery. This should drain any capacitors that may be holding enough charge to keep some circuits powered and in a confused state. This was recommended by Clark Martin and also did not do anything. Kris Tilford suggested: Broken power button? I am not sure how to test thisdoes this sound possible? Bruce then replied: If the battery shows a full charge, and the system won't boot off of just the battery, I'd say that the DC board on it died. Kinda fiddly to replace : http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+PowerBook+G4+Aluminum+15-Inch+1.67+GHz+DC+%26+Sound+Card/651/1 but not terrible. Then John Carmonne sent this: I have repaired a lot of G4 Power Books and for me the most troublesome DC board have been the 1.67 A1138 models, some are the jack from abuse and some are the board, a mutimeter will tell you which it is. There are two 1.67's so be sure if you have to buy one that you get the correct unit:-) So I bought a DC board off of ebay, had it shipped overseas to me and installed it and it still does nothing. Crap! Frustrated and busy I stuck the thing in my closet. Now I am wanting to fix it if possible because I really love this machine, so I was hoping to get some more advice if possible. Here is what I noticed as I played around with things. After taking out the old DC input board and installing the new one, I plugged in the old one that was out of the system and noticed that the AC power cord would light up in the orange color that it usually would do when the battery was not fully charged. I disassembled the laptop again and found that if I unplugged the little wired cable that connects from the DC input board to the motherboard and plugged the AC power cord back in, it would light up orange, just as the old board did that was removed from the laptop. When I plug this cable back into the motherboard and re-install the AC power cord, it does not light up, thus it will not charge the battery and certainly will not start up the computer. I am wondering now if this is a sign of a bad motherboard? If so, any advance warnings, suggestions, etc. or should I just keep it as an attractive paperweight or bookend? Any other thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and thanks also to all of you who responded previously to me! Tom -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 3 Messages in 1 Topic
The only problem is that your solution is not a solution. Please forgive the following cliches, but while I agree that a customer needs to vote with his feet, it is not wise to cut off your nose to spite your face. In other words, what will I use to replace the functionality of the services it offered? Don Wakefield DTPetc! (DeskTop Productions et cetera!) Ballwin, Missouri, USA From: Ronald Steinke ronstei...@mac.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 2:27 PM Subject: Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 3 Messages in 1 Topic Quit using the darn thing is you don't like what has done to you. That is the simple answer to your issue. On Jul 4, 2013, at 5:45 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 thinks there are still two monitors attached, after removing one.
On Sunday, June 30, 2013 1:23:13 PM UTC-5, PH wrote: what i did was de-solder the faulty regulator and attached 3 wires to the 3 contacts on the board the old regulator was soldered to. then i soldered the new voltage regulator to the proper one of the 3 new wires, wrapped the contacts with electrical tape, and taped it to a spot in the monitor case where there was sufficient room. Remoting the voltage regulator is generally OK, providing: 1) the leads are short, or 2) should the leads be long, you also include stability-improving caps directly on the V.R., and 3) you encapsulate the composite assembly in heat shrink tubing. Back in the bad old days, such V.R.s were generally made in + and - 5 volts and + and - 12 volts. Today, + 3.3 volts is also to be found. The LT1086 is an adjustable voltage regulator. The voltage you get out is set by the ratio of two resistors connected to the regulator. Long wires might affect that ratio, but it shouldn't be a problem as long as the wire gauge is relatively substantial. The LT1086 was also used on the first generation PPC machines (NuBus PPC) to provide steady voltage to the PP601. Jeff Walther -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 3 Messages in 1 Topic
DITTO, I checked and have been with OWC for several years , (ever since the founder of Cowtown.Net died. ) Good company and EXCELLENT telephone Support. RHB On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Ronald Steinke ronstei...@mac.com wrote: Quit using the darn thing is you don't like what has done to you. That is the simple answer to your issue. On Jul 4, 2013, at 5:45 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Up until Yahoo forced the change to the New Mail, I was happily using the Classic version. Now that they have forced the change, I can't be the only one left behind. (Select all buttons are missing, Next buttons send you back to the list view every time you delete a correspondence, and untold numbers of other irritations.) What suggestions do any of you more savvy techs have as an alternate solution or at least a workaround to the offerings we Leopard users are left with. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dead after copying files to an external firewire drive.
On Jul 5, 2013, at 8:38 PM, spilrules t...@tomstock.us wrote: Here is what I noticed as I played around with things. After taking out the old DC input board and installing the new one, I plugged in the old one that was out of the system and noticed that the AC power cord would light up in the orange color that it usually would do when the battery was not fully charged. I disassembled the laptop again and found that if I unplugged the little wired cable that connects from the DC input board to the motherboard and plugged the AC power cord back in, it would light up orange, just as the old board did that was removed from the laptop. When I plug this cable back into the motherboard and re-install the AC power cord, it does not light up, thus it will not charge the battery and certainly will not start up the computer. I am wondering now if this is a sign of a bad motherboard? If so, any advance warnings, suggestions, etc. or should I just keep it as an attractive paperweight or bookend? Uggh, I suspect you may be correct about a bad MB. You seem to have eliminated every other possibility..one thing you didn't mention, have you tried it without having the battery in it? -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Dead after copying files to an external firewire drive.
On Jul 5, 2013, at 8:38 PM, spilrules wrote: Here is what I noticed as I played around with things. After taking out the old DC input board and installing the new one, I plugged in the old one that was out of the system and noticed that the AC power cord would light up in the orange color that it usually would do when the battery was not fully charged. I disassembled the laptop again and found that if I unplugged the little wired cable that connects from the DC input board to the motherboard and plugged the AC power cord back in, it would light up orange, just as the old board did that was removed from the laptop. When I plug this cable back into the motherboard and re-install the AC power cord, it does not light up, thus it will not charge the battery and certainly will not start up the computer. I am wondering now if this is a sign of a bad motherboard? If so, any advance warnings, suggestions, etc. or should I just keep it as an attractive paperweight or bookend? I think you are right about the motherboard. BUT... try disconnecting the following and power it up: Harddrive Memory Keyboard Trackpad WiFi card Anything external Then try it with ANYTHING plugged into the motherboard -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
