G5 kernal panic, anyone want to decipher?

2013-07-31 Thread arichic...@gmail.com
G5/1.8 dual. I had just watched a youtube video via perian and was
opening iTunes when this happened [er exactly what happened?]

Interval Since Last Panic Report:  4611287 sec
Panics Since Last Report:  2
Anonymous UUID:097DF688-CA60-40A7-BDA5-19EB616FA08B

Wed Jul 31 12:47:18 2013


Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 1): 0x300 - Data access
DAR=0x PC=0x000B57E4
Latest crash info for cpu 1:
   Exception state (sv=0x26d18500)
  PC=0x000B57E4; MSR=0x9030; DAR=0x; DSISR=0x4000;
LR=0x00946A00; R1=0x1EB17910; XCP=0x000C (0x300 - Data access)
  Backtrace:
0x0094696C 0x00946EA8 0x0092F9A8 0x0092D570 0x0071F928 0x0070D7E4
 0x006F309C 0x006F902C 0x00CF1E98 0x00CF907C 0x00CF9194
0x0036011C 0x0003F2A0 0x000B1DD4
  Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
 com.apple.NVDAResmanPPC(5.4.8)@0x71e000-0x99efff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.3)@0x706000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x6e
 com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.3)@0x706000-0x71dfff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x6e
 com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x6e-0x705fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000
 com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.5.5)@0xccc000-0xd17fff
Proceeding back via exception chain:
   Exception state (sv=0x26d18500)
  previously dumped as Latest state. skipping...
   Exception state (sv=0x18a81000)
  PC=0x; MSR=0xD030; DAR=0x; DSISR=0x;
LR=0x; R1=0x; XCP=0x (Unknown)

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:
9L31a

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:57:01 PDT 2009;
root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_PPC
System model name: PowerMac7,2

System uptime in nanoseconds: 5155995835282
unloaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.Apple02DBDMAAudio  2.5.8f1 - last unloaded 3609790072
loaded kexts:
com.realtek.driver.RTL8192CU1005
com.apple.filesystems.autofs2.0.2 - last loaded 812550276
com.apple.GeForcePPC5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
com.apple.driver.AppleTopazAudio2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleTAS3004Audio  2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleTexasAudio2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleTexas2Audio   2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleDACAAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleSCCSerial 1.3.2
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor  1.9d0
com.apple.driver.AppleFCU   1.3.2b0
com.apple.driver.AppleFan   1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AppleADT746x   1.0.10f1
com.apple.driver.AppleK2Fan 1.0.10f1
com.apple.nvidia.nv30hal5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AppleCPUVoltage1.5.2d0
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP1.7.7
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBDisplays   2.0.2
com.apple.driver.AppleVSP   2.2.2
com.apple.driver.AppleThermal   1.0.1f2
com.apple.driver.AppleK2Driver  1.7.2f1
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Re: G5 Troubles

2013-07-31 Thread Ken Daggett


On 29 Jul 2013, at 21:31:35 PDT, John Carmonne wrote:

I have a G5 Dual 2.7 and it boots without a PRAM battery in it.  
Mine did the no boot and fan runway, in the end it turned out to be  
the logic board.
I spent a lot of time fighting this it would boot the ASD 2.5.8  
disc but not any install boot disc or HDD.

--
I think I have chased the problem to a flaky HD. Zero'd it out and  
installed 10.4. Booted from disk OK. Upgraded to 10.4.11, and it  
booted OK again. Ran Software update a couple of times and after  
second update it refuses to boot from the HD. Ran Disk Utility and  
found several errors, including bad B-Tree. Repairs failed. I have  
gone through this same cycle twice.


Looks like next step is to install a new HD and try again. (Fingers  
crossed.)


Any suggestions on brand/type/size of SATA HD? There is a Fry's close  
with more options than I can decipher.


Ken

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Re: G5 kernal panic, anyone want to decipher?

2013-07-31 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:54 AM, arichic...@gmail.com wrote:

 G5/1.8 dual. I had just watched a youtube video via perian and was
 opening iTunes when this happened [er exactly what happened?]
 
 Interval Since Last Panic Report:  4611287 sec
 Panics Since Last Report:  2
 Anonymous UUID:097DF688-CA60-40A7-BDA5-19EB616FA08B
 
 Wed Jul 31 12:47:18 2013
 
 
 Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 1): 0x300 - Data access

The kernel barfed, meaning it's way down at the core of the OS. This isn't an 
extremely illuminating crash report, unfortunately.

If it doesn't happen again it's a chance thing.

If it starts happening more frequently, then it's time to look hard at these 
reports. Frequent kernel-level 'bad-access' errors can point to failing RAM or 
CPUs. Can't remember if the 1.8 dual is air or liquid cooled. You might want to 
open it up  to make sure the dust bunnies, rhinocerouses and elephants are all 
evicted, reseat RAM, check for coolant leakage if it's liquid cooled model.

Myself, I'd probably boot in safe mode or run the cache cleanup stuff in 
AppleJack, just on general principle, but odds are once you rebooted the 
problem was fixed.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: G5 kernal panic, anyone want to decipher?

2013-07-31 Thread Dan

At 12:54 PM -0500 07/31/2013, arichic...@gmail.com wrote:

G5/1.8 dual. I had just watched a youtube video via perian and was
opening iTunes when this happened [er exactly what happened?]

Wed Jul 31 12:47:18 2013


Check your system.log for entries just before the panic.

- Dan.
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Re: G5 kernal panic, anyone want to decipher?

2013-07-31 Thread Clark Martin

On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:54 AM, arichic...@gmail.com wrote:

 G5/1.8 dual. I had just watched a youtube video via perian and was
 opening iTunes when this happened [er exactly what happened?]
 
 Interval Since Last Panic Report:  4611287 sec
 Panics Since Last Report:  2
 Anonymous UUID:097DF688-CA60-40A7-BDA5-19EB616FA08B
 
 Wed Jul 31 12:47:18 2013
 
 
 Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 1): 0x300 - Data access
 DAR=0x PC=0x000B57E4
 Latest crash info for cpu 1:
   Exception state (sv=0x26d18500)
  PC=0x000B57E4; MSR=0x9030; DAR=0x; DSISR=0x4000;
 LR=0x00946A00; R1=0x1EB17910; XCP=0x000C (0x300 - Data access)
  Backtrace:
 0x0094696C 0x00946EA8 0x0092F9A8 0x0092D570 0x0071F928 0x0070D7E4
 0x006F309C 0x006F902C 0x00CF1E98 0x00CF907C 0x00CF9194
 0x0036011C 0x0003F2A0 0x000B1DD4
  Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
 com.apple.NVDAResmanPPC(5.4.8)@0x71e000-0x99efff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.3)@0x706000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x6e
 com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.3)@0x706000-0x71dfff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x6e
 com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x6e-0x705fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000
 com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.5.5)@0xccc000-0xd17fff
 Proceeding back via exception chain:
   Exception state (sv=0x26d18500)
  previously dumped as Latest state. skipping...
   Exception state (sv=0x18a81000)
  PC=0x; MSR=0xD030; DAR=0x; DSISR=0x;
 LR=0x; R1=0x; XCP=0x (Unknown)
 
 BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

What Dan and Bruce said.

The specific oops happened somewhere in the video driver.  That MAY be 
relevant especially since you were watching a video just before it, it's 
possible Perian or something didn't turn back out correctly.

Or, this is the equivalent of an auto wreck where the kernal panic report is 
saying you hit a tree but isn't telling you the cause was the driver was 
texting.  

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SATA Internal HD for G5

2013-07-31 Thread Ken Daggett


I am looking to buy one or two new HDs for a newly acquired G5 DP  
2GHz machine.


Any druthers between Seagate and Western Digital? (Or any other  
brand, for that matter.)


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Re: SATA Internal HD for G5

2013-07-31 Thread James Knight
You might look at a used several years old velociraptor on the popular auction 
site. Otherwise any 7200rpm drive should do just fine for you. Personally I've 
had drives from every maker except Samsung fail, but it is probably only a 
matter of time for them too.

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On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Ken Daggett kadagg...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I am looking to buy one or two new HDs for a newly acquired G5 DP 2GHz 
 machine.
 
 Any druthers between Seagate and Western Digital? (Or any other brand, for 
 that matter.)
 
 Ken
 
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Re: SATA Internal HD for G5

2013-07-31 Thread peterhaas

 You might look at a used several years old velociraptor on the popular
 auction site. Otherwise any 7200rpm drive should do just fine for you.
 Personally I've had drives from every maker except Samsung fail, but it is
 probably only a matter of time for them too.

Noboby makes flawless drives, as all drives, but perhaps most particularly
WD's, are made to low price-points (exception: so-called enterprise
drives, which are built to a much higher price- and performance-point).

Samsung is now owned by Seagate.


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Re: SATA Internal HD for G5

2013-07-31 Thread John Carmonne

On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:45 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:

 
 You might look at a used several years old velociraptor on the popular
 auction site. Otherwise any 7200rpm drive should do just fine for you.
 Personally I've had drives from every maker except Samsung fail, but it is
 probably only a matter of time for them too.
 
 Noboby makes flawless drives, as all drives, but perhaps most particularly
 WD's, are made to low price-points (exception: so-called enterprise
 drives, which are built to a much higher price- and performance-point).
 
 Samsung is now owned by Seagate.
 

Hitachi and Seagate are my choice in the 7200 64MB. Never had a Hitachi go yet, 
but I'm sure someday one will.
Newegg most times has the best price, look for the weekly sales:-)

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem






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Re: SATA Internal HD for G5

2013-07-31 Thread peterhaas

 Hitachi and Seagate are my choice in the 7200 64MB. Never had a Hitachi go
 yet, but I'm sure someday one will.
 Newegg most times has the best price, look for the weekly sales:-)

Seagate has, unfortunately, elected to abandon the justifiably famous
Barracuda trademark for its drives.

Originally a super-high performance SCSI drive, the internal technology
was subsequently extended to IDE and SATA drives.

The 3 TB 5,900 rpm drives in the former Barracuda family are now called
desktop drives.

The 2 TB 7,200 rpm and smaller capacity drives are from the same family as
the 3 TB, but with fewer platters and, obviously, higher spindle speed.

The 2 TB and smaller drives are referred to as desktop drives, formerly
called Barracuda.

A few true Barracuda drives are still available, but these are not from
the desktop drives, formerly called Barracuda family.



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Re: SATA Internal HD for G5

2013-07-31 Thread irrational John
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:05 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:

 The 3 TB 5,900 rpm drives in the former Barracuda family are now called
 desktop drives.


It's only the 4TB flavor which is 5900 RPM. The 3TB and lower speeds
are, I believe, all 7200 RPM. At any rate, that's what newegg claims
in the chart they have on their product page for these drives.

I'm not sure what difference it makes whether they call them
Barracuda or 7200.14 or Rosebud. It's what's inside the drive
and how well Seagate supports it that matters to me. I'm more upset
about the warranty period being reduced to two years than a name
change ... but what can one do?

newegg.com is still listing (most of) Seagate's current 3.5 drives as
Seagate Barracuda, but perhaps that  is just to help customer's used
to the Seagate's previous naming convention? A different name is only
used for the 4TB drive. It is listed as Seagate Desktop HDD.15
versus Seagate Barracuda 7200.14.

FWIW, if you want to glance at their specs table for the Seage drive
below is a link to the page for
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844

-irrational john

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