Re: Hard Drive problem with G3, 266 mhz tower
> Newer systems are always being updated to handle improved drive > technologies, so it is quite possible that 9.2 would see something that > 8.6 > didn't. > The size of the drives is also important, as every OS version and machine > have their own limits. Is the Seagate larger than the Quantum? > Is the Seagate larger that 128 GB ? The Subject stated "G3, 266 mhz tower", and most of those were made with Rev 1 ROMs, which only support Masters, and possibly only 128 GB. A Rev 2 or 3 ROM will support Slaves, of course. It has been a LONG time that I have had my Beige powered-on, but a 300 MHz pretty much required a Rev 2 ROM, and the Rev 3 ROM was released because it cured issues with certain video cards and the Rev 2 ROM. In any case, the beige used DMA mode, and it was the UATA in the Blue and White which got into trouble with greater than 128 MB drives, until the UATA chip was fixed. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hard Drive problem with G3, 266 mhz tower
On Apr 14, 2014, at 13:16 , Iamanamma wrote: > I took one out because I thought it was bad. Hard drive set up was not recognizing the hard drive on the ATA bus. I was using > an OS 8.6 install disk to start up so I could re-format it and re-install the OS. You had two drives, or just one? If two, is it the boot drive that was suspect, or the other one? > Why on earth would OS 9.2 recognize the drive, but not OS 8.6? Newer systems are always being updated to handle improved drive technologies, so it is quite possible that 9.2 would see something that 8.6 didn't. The size of the drives is also important, as every OS version and machine have their own limits. Is the Seagate larger than the Quantum? Is the Seagate larger that 128 GB ? Is it the Seagate that is only being seen by OS 9.2? or the Quantum ? > Could this be a simple as a jumper problem? The old drive I took out was a Quantum Fireball, the new one I put in is a Seagate. Yes, it could be, but if OS 9 is seeing the drive and OS 8 is not, then that is less likely. If you have two drives installed, and one is set to 'master' or 'slave' then the other drive needs to be set to the other setting. If one drive is 'cable select' then so should the other. Manoah F. Adams federaladamsfamily.com/developer -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hard Drive problem with G3, 266 mhz tower
Starting with the extremely simple basics you ahve already; 1. Cleaned all port and cable end connections with an old toothbrush and contact cleaner or isopropyl alcohol. Scrubbing them thoroughly. 2. After plugging them in and trying to boot up, wiggled the cables along their length to see it you could hear any tentative sounds from the hard drive. 3. Inspected cables for damage of any kind. 4. Made a continuity check on any suspect cables. 5. dumped the PRAM. 6. Reset the CUDA switch on the motherboard ( I cannot recall if that is PCI only.) 7. Made sure the motherboard battery is in good shape. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Iamanamma wrote: > I am having trouble getting this old Mac to recognize hard drives. I took > one out because I thought it was bad. Hard drive set up was not > recognizing the hard drive on the ATA bus. I was using an OS 8.6 install > disk to start up so I could re-format it and re-install the OS. I had a > new ATA hard drive, so I took the old one out and replaced it. I started up > from the CD, and the same thing happened. Nothing was visible on the ATA > bus. I got out another install disk, 9.2 this time, and restarted from it. > This time I used Apple System Profiler to see if anything was there, and > sure enough it was. I re-initialized the disk (Macintosh OS Standard), > shut down and started up from the OS 8.6 disk again. Again, no hard drive > on the ATA bus. Why on earth would OS 9.2 recognize the drive, but not OS > 8.6? Could this be a simple as a jumper problem? The old drive I took out > was a Quantum Fireball, the new one I put in is a Seagate. I really need > this unit to be running OS 8.6 and not 9. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "G-Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Hard Drive problem with G3, 266 mhz tower
I am having trouble getting this old Mac to recognize hard drives. I took one out because I thought it was bad. Hard drive set up was not recognizing the hard drive on the ATA bus. I was using an OS 8.6 install disk to start up so I could re-format it and re-install the OS. I had a new ATA hard drive, so I took the old one out and replaced it. I started up from the CD, and the same thing happened. Nothing was visible on the ATA bus. I got out another install disk, 9.2 this time, and restarted from it. This time I used Apple System Profiler to see if anything was there, and sure enough it was. I re-initialized the disk (Macintosh OS Standard), shut down and started up from the OS 8.6 disk again. Again, no hard drive on the ATA bus. Why on earth would OS 9.2 recognize the drive, but not OS 8.6? Could this be a simple as a jumper problem? The old drive I took out was a Quantum Fireball, the new one I put in is a Seagate. I really need this unit to be running OS 8.6 and not 9. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
