Re: Getting really sick of access privileges
It's UNIX. Not Mac OS X. Most OSes have the permissions crud because they are optimized for multi user systems. The only OS I know of that doesn't have permissions is BeOS. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PCI question
Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2 long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quieter fans for a Quicksilver G4?
If you go to CompUSA you can pick up some nice fans by SilenX. They are really quiet and will make your G4 less noisy. I'm pretty sure they will work. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh
The G4 could eat a higher clocked PIII for lunch. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What is the best OS for PowerMac G4 AGP Graphics?
10.4.11. You can take it to Leopard but you will need a CPU upgrade as it will be painfully slow. As for Linux have you heard of MintPPC? On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Daniel Attard wrote: I have an old Power Mac G4 and I was wondering what is the best Mac OS X version.I was also wondering which is the best Ubuntu version for it.I don't want 6.06. These are it's specs: 400 Mhz G4 CPU 320 MB of RAM 10 GB harddrive DVD drive Thank you for repleys. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: radeon 9800 pro
Can you post the pictures of the slot and the card to photo bucket or something? There is no difference in the slot of an AGP 1x, 2x, 4x, or 8x. On May 24, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: OK Thanks. I thought the slot was the same and I just had to disable the 8x on the card. I now have a nice video card for sale - lol. On May 24, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Geke wrote: It is a G5 card (8x) but I am fairly certain the G4 and G5 have the same AGP. Uh oh. I don’t know much about graphic cards, but G4 and G5 AGP slots are different in just the way you described. Sorry about that. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: CPU upgrade options for Power Mac G4 DA
I got my Quicksilver dual 800 from FleaBay for $50 shipped. How long ago was this? I bought a DA online that someone had put a Dual 533MHz cpu from another DA. I feel very fortunate to have it ... it was the first G4 I had really wanted to buy when it first came out, but couldnt afford the price at that time. I think I paid around $100 including Shipping for this one ... feel like it was a steal. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.
The reason why the battery can't be replaced is because it is so large, lasts 10, 7 or 8 hours depending on your model and can take up to 1000 cycles. How does Steve Jobs decide what runs on Mac OS X??? An iMac with a Radeon 6970 coupled to a Sandy Bridge Core i7 is a bad hardware decision??? Apple's x86 hardware uses Intel TPM. There are some at Apple who deny this, but the fact that Apple releases enablers to allow other operating systems to run seems to indicate that the TPM is really there and implemented. Now, I could turn out to be wrong about this, and I would be happy to be proven wrong about this. Absent sufficient evidence on the lack of TPM, I have no interest whatsoever in Apple x86 hardware. I have the quaint belief that when I buy a computer, I get to decide what runs on it. I am accused of being insufficiently deferential to his Steveness, and I accept that as true. I won't use a computer where someone else can turn it off at will and decide what I can and cannot run. OSX is quite nice, but the hardware decisions of his Steveness have been pretty bad lately, anyway. For just one complaint of many, what kind of idiot would design a laptop or media player where you can't replace the battery? Have a good day, Ralph -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.
I tried it. And hated it. I don't know why though... On May 10, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: What happened to Yellow Dog Linux PPC? At least at some point in the past when Apple was still on PPC, that was the Linux to run, if you needed to run it on Apple hw. Jerry On 05/10/11 15:58, Alex Barnes wrote: PPC linux has terrible 3rd party support. Most versions of software say linux but don't specify that it's x86 or x64 only. You can pull it off though. You'll need Debian Linux as it has the best PPC support. On May 10, 2011, at 2:08 PM, imrazor wrote: On May 10, 1:46 pm, Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.com wrote: Give some serious consideration to using ubuntu Linux on a used or otherwise cheap Intel machine. If the OP wants Flash, Linux PPC is not the way to go. Last time I tried Ubuntu on a G5, Flash support was horrible. Had a lot of trouble with Bluetooth as well, though my Radeon 9700 was surprisingly functional. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD copper heatsink question
That is thermal paste. It transfers heat to from the processor to the heatsink (I think you knew that). Do you have a URL where I could see the picture with the thermal paste? On May 11, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Roger Dickinson wrote: I'm about to exchange the 24-fin aluminium heatsink in a G4 MDD dual 1.25 GHz (2002) for the more efficient copper heatsink from the 1.42 GHz MDD. One thing puzzles me, though : the bottom of the copper heatsink I have has some sort of gloop on each side of the heat pipe, just like that shown in the MDD's service manual, but the one pictured in the xlr8yourmac.com article on doing this swap (http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/MDD_copper_heatsink_swap/mdd_copper_heatsink_swap.html) has none. I am sure the mod. article is accurate, so is this stuff not really necessary? Anybody know why it's present on some but apparently not all heatsinks of this type? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 monitor fails to fire
Have you checked the monitor cable? On May 11, 2011, at 2:59 PM, blindspot-smi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Yes, Kris Just to make it clear, taking into account your remarks. The monitor will eventually fire up - might take two, three, four G5 power-ups, might have to leave it for hours and just sometimes it might come on immediately. Haven't successfully powered up in safe mode because you have to have the USB keyboard plugged in, and it won't fire up with USBs plugged in. The ATI Radeon 9600 pro has an ADC and a DVI-I port so I have only used the DVI port. The adaptor is to allow me to use the monitor which only has a VGA port. The adaptor goes from the DVI-I port on the G5 to a VGA-VGA cable which runs the monitor. I haven't tried a monitor which can take DVI-I. We do have one in the house but I haven't got a DVI-I/DVI-I cable. Once I get the monitor to fire with the G5 it works well, no wobble, a choice of monitor sizes, millions of colours etc. It also always works well with the G4 (using just the same VGA-VGA cable) I figure some loose component on the G5 card is causing a voltage/charge drop. No bulging or leaking capacitors evident. Unfortunately I haven't got another graphics card to try so I was hoping there might be a dodgy component that always gives trouble and could be resoldered or something. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.
You can also go with Linux Mint 10. I prefer it to Ubuntu. You can build a cheap quad core system for under $500. Just get your parts form CompUSA. On May 10, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: At 22:36 -0400 5/9/11, admin wrote: Adobe Flash 10.2 Intel only, I believe. Web sites are starting not to work under Leopard and Firefox Camino 2.0.7, Firefox 3.6.17, Safari 5.0.5. I can do everything I need to and still use Classic Programs with my G4 computers. I'd rather invest in redundancy with machines and external drives, but it seems the handwriting is on the wall ... I don't even have an LCD monitor. Any suggestions on a Mini that will navigate the latest browsers and web sites? Thanks. Give some serious consideration to using ubuntu Linux on a used or otherwise cheap Intel machine. I used UNIX long before 1984 and I'm likely biased but I find I can communicate quite easily between my G4 running OS 10.3.9 and my HP box running ubuntu where Firefox runs fine with the latest web nonsense. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I am forced to go Intel? Common rant, I guess.
PPC linux has terrible 3rd party support. Most versions of software say linux but don't specify that it's x86 or x64 only. You can pull it off though. You'll need Debian Linux as it has the best PPC support. On May 10, 2011, at 2:08 PM, imrazor wrote: On May 10, 1:46 pm, Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.com wrote: Give some serious consideration to using ubuntu Linux on a used or otherwise cheap Intel machine. If the OP wants Flash, Linux PPC is not the way to go. Last time I tried Ubuntu on a G5, Flash support was horrible. Had a lot of trouble with Bluetooth as well, though my Radeon 9700 was surprisingly functional. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Lock doors
Open your Wi-Fi network and get FireSheep to see what they are looking at. lol On Apr 26, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Norm wrote: I have lived in rural Maine for almost 40 years and never locked my house or car until this past January. Doors smashed, things taken worth a lot. Prep took my insurance bought me new iPod touch and I find I at least 3 neighbors that were log on to my wifi. Have since used highest security and password to shut them out. Wish I could say the same for the dirtbag who robbed me. Sent from my iPod -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 laptop
A cycle is when the battery is drained to 0 percent and charged back up to 100. If you let it drain to 75% and charge it back to 100% in constitutes only 1/4 of a cycle. On Apr 20, 2011, at 2:04 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Apr 20, 2011, at 1:01 PM, John Callahan wrote: Hello, What is the best way to operate a laptop when on the AC adapter, with the battery in place or removed? Am concerned with battery life and number of cycles. Battery is always down a little after a shut-down and restart on the power source, does this constitute a cycle? Thank you All mine are always plugged in when possible 24/7 batteries it place. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Poor wireless reception on G4 Aluminum Powerbook
This seems to be a Leopard bug. That has happened to me several times, all on Macs running Leopard. A simple downgrade or upgrade fixed the problem. On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Bruce - in Orlando wrote: Can anyone tell me what the real problem is? It appears the aluminum PowerBook suffers like the Ti PowerBook did, bad reception because of metal case (Faraday cage Well, for one, no they don't. I've owned both, and while the TiBook indeed has poorer wifi range the AlBook is just fine. (tested on both with a USB wifi dongle.) Crucially NEITHER has range as poor as the OP describes. His issue is a broken, unattached, or dislodged antenna. You're seriously suggesting that Apple would ship laptops with a 5' wifi range?! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will a QS2002 Dual-1GHz CPU work in a QS?
Speaking of LBA48... Yellow Dog Linux and Debian Linux both report and use the full 250 GB (because that is the size of my HD) in my QS 2001. But Mac OS 10.5 sees it as a 128 GB drive. I know this has nothing to do with the thread. But good info none the less. Actually, the only significant difference is the ROM on the mobo, and it DOES NOT support LBA48 in the QS 2001, whereas it DOES support LBA48 in the QS 2002. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will this affect TenFourFox too?
Probably not... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: rich text problem
I like it. Do you mind if I use it? -- Give me liberty or give me Obamacare -- Snarky political comments are NOT appropriate to this list. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
You should use TenFourFox. It is designed for G4 processors and will run better than Safari. It can also use all the FireFox add-ons. He would probably have better luck using YouTube's HTML 5 option, perhaps even uninstalling Flash and using Safari with the browser ID set to Safari iPad. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: rich text problem
Why does anyone care about rich text/plain text. This isn't the 90's anymore! If your computer can't read rich text then you need to do some serious updates! My PowerBook 1400 can read rich text on Gmail's website! Why can't the list managers make some kind of a rich text block on the lists to help us that make an occasional mistake only to find out we mistakenly sent a post containing rich text and no way to fix it. Then comes a warning from the Nannies that we screwed up and get back on the moderating deal yet again? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: rich text problem
Oh. So is that why the nannies say no to rich text? http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/ihatehtmlmail.pdf If you can't state your problem with your words, all the ransom-note typography and hopping smileys will not help your case. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: rich text problem
I use Mail in 10.6 but I have it set to display rich text. Now I see why it's hated. On Mar 17, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Oh. So is that why the nannies say no to rich text? You'll have to ask them. It's a long-standing rule on the LEM lists, and frankly, I've rarely seen any instance where rich text adds any useful information, and when you have a mashed up mixture of three text replies and two different Rich text ones, one of which renders as 3-point script 27 inches wide on the screen you'll learn to despise that particular abomination. And Dog help us if some idiot replies from their work account using Exchange which decides to send out an unusable winmail.dat file because Microsoft Declare darkness a standard thinks that everyone in the world uses Outlook. Not to mention what happens when it's a digest you're attempting to read. You seem to not understand that not everyone reads this list in the Gmail web interface; some of us use *real* email clients. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: rich text problem
Ok... I won't use read I'll use display. Sounds like you've done some serious updating if your PowerBook 1400 has a consciousness and can read. My computers lack consciousness and are limited to dumb tricks like being able to display rich text, or synthesize speech from text. I'd love to have a computer that reads. My computer can't even spell very good. I bet if it could read its spelling, punctuation, and grammar would improve, not to mention its sense of humor. It never laughs. I think it may be depressed? Reading would help I'm sure. Where do I get these serious updates? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?
Here's the URL http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ If you want there is another browser by the same group called Classilla (http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/). Classilla is for Mac OS 9 to Mac OS 10.3. It runs well on my RAM challenged iMac 333. And it should run like the wind on you iMac if you happen to have it booted into Mac OS 9. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: rich text problem
At least there's not flash emails going around (although I can see us headed there)! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: When you really need to erase data...
Disk Utility in Mac OS X does the same thing (zeroing out drives) but you don't need a PeeCee. On Mar 13, 2011, at 5:19 AM, faithie999 wrote: i rebuild old PC's and give them to a social worker to give to her clients. i found this program http://www.dban.org/Boot n Nuke which yes, is a DOS boot disc/DOD-level erasing program, but if you have a PC around you can install your old Mac HD into it and when Boot n Nuke starts you can choose from 7 levels of data destruction. a pretty slick tool. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: When you really need to erase data...
Disk Utility in Mac OS X does the same thing (zeroing out drives) but you don't need a PeeCee. On Mar 13, 2011, at 5:19 AM, faithie999 wrote: i rebuild old PC's and give them to a social worker to give to her clients. i found this program http://www.dban.org/Boot n Nuke which yes, is a DOS boot disc/DOD-level erasing program, but if you have a PC around you can install your old Mac HD into it and when Boot n Nuke starts you can choose from 7 levels of data destruction. a pretty slick tool. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: problemas com o blackberry e apple
Please post in english. On Mar 10, 2011, at 6:12 PM, ricardo ferreira wrote: http://www.flixxy.com/my-blackberry-is-not-working.htm -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What video card for QS 733
Is it Flash video? My Dual 1.3 Quicksilver can barely play Flash video even with a Radeon 9800. I would like to be able to watch streaming TV shows from the network websites, but the videos are really choppy. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 Quicksilver
You should get a processor upgrade (preferably a dual), a better GPU (Radeon 9800 Pro), Leopard, and maybe a USB 2.0 card. On Mar 6, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Yeah Yeah! What hardware should I install On Feb 25, 2011, at 10:41 PM, Dan wrote: At 7:00 PM -0800 2/25/2011, Barney Guzzo wrote: Hi. I have a 2002 G4 933 Quicksilver. It has a 250 gb (Seagate) and a 128 gb (WD) ide drive, 500 gb sata drive, pci sata controller, pci gigabit ethernet card, pci 4 port 2.0 usb card, geforce ti 4600 128mb, and its connected to a a 23 Apple Cinema Display via ADC. I am using OS 10.4.11.This machine runs flawlessly and I have no problems. So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas? Geeze. Waggling yer finger in Murphy's face is just not a good plan! OTOH, no problems sounds boring. Upgrade! Add more hardware software! G'luck, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Should I put Leopard 5.0 om G4 flat screen iMac?
On my Quicksilver dual 800 it took actually gave it better Geekbench scores. It took a hit on the graphics performance though it was using a Rage 128. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 2, 11:20 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:13 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: Can this Mac handle 10.5 without a lot of slowdown? The slowdown averages about 15% or so, you can check out the Xbench or Geekbench archives for exact numbers for your specific Mac: -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Timer
But you'll have to get used to the fact that it only has one chime. The iEgg has 10 different sounds and the iEgg Pro has MacInTalk (remember that?) installed so you can choose your favorite voice to tell you when times up! Two dollars for an egg timer!? You must be using an Apple iEgg or iEgg Pro? At any Dollar Store you can get a generic egg timer for only a buck. It won't look as nice or work as seamlessly as an Apple iEgg, but with a little tweaking it'll make a nice crackintosh. http://www.umag.it/content/1653-apple-presenta-iegg-un-nuovo-e-rivoluzionario-dispositivo-perfetto-da-ogni-punto-di-vista.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Better bootloader
The bootloader that comes with Linux mint is excellent. Too bad it's Intel only. On Feb 20, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/02/20 09:00, Nestamicky so eloquently wrote: Is there a better way of getting the option to select which OS to boot to, in a dual boot (OS X 10.5 and Server) than holding down the Option key at startup? Perhaps a GUI bootloader that he could select from? For a GUI bootloader I don't know that you'll do much better than the OS X native, the linux yaboot might work under these circumstances but it's not GUI. That is if it's for a PPC Mac, there's a different bootloader for X86/64 linux that I have no experience with. Tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?
A dual 1.8 G4 in 9.2? I can't even imagine how fast that would be. Well IMHO In defense of the Dual 1.8 upgrade, some of us Mac addicts like to get the old dogs dancing in the alley. Theres something to be said about the wind up of the PM G4 fans not to spaek of being able to boot OS 9.2.2 which the Mini's lack both features. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD ATX mods
You can actually get cheap power supplies from CompUSA. I got an Ultra 500 watt supply for a gaming PC (sorry I'm not paying $1200 for an iMac with an old GPU) and it has lasted 1 year and it is still going good. On Feb 19, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Brielle wrote: Hello All, I'm actually a member of the LEM list, but I figured this would be a more appropriate place to post on given its about the G4 series. I've been working on my skills with soldering, rewiring, etc and have made really good progress with retrofitting the G4 MDD macs with ATX power supplies. I know that there was someone who was making adapter kits a while back, but he stopped doing it for one reason or another. So, my question is, if I started offering a kit/adapter for the MDD and other mac models, would anyone be interested? Its fairly trivial for me to do, and I could do something where if you sent me the wire loom from your dead power supply and let me know length, amount of hard drive power cables, etc, I'd be willing to build custom kits on request. If I could find a source for the proper molex connectors to plug into the G4 mobo, it would be even easier to build the kits. In the end, it would probably be 20-40 bucks total per kit, versus 100+ for a new power supply. I'm a big fan of the classic mac and power mac series, so bringing these machines back to life is a hobby of mine, and it just doesn't seem right not to offer my skills to help the mac community as a whole. Brielle -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?
He is a good seller. I bought a 1.3 dual G4 upgrade for $150 and he mailed it by DHL and it arrived in 3 days. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Would you trust this ebay seller?
I have a dual 1.3 GHz Sonnet Encore ST/G4 duet that you can have for $100. On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Bruce - in Orlando wrote: It's good to hear from LEM people who have had good experiences with this seller. That makes me feel better than a thousand ebay comments. I didn't mean to say there's anything wrong with a seller in China, just that it's a private auction by a seller on the other side of the Earth. As to the price being a bit high, I'd be happy to talk to anybody that has one of these for sale at a lower price! (but I guess I would need to do that on the Swap List ... ). Bruce - in Orlando -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Option equivalent on Windows Keyboard
It's the ALT key. On Feb 18, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: Hi! I've set up a G4 to dual boot from a Jaguar drive and a Ubuntu drive - both internal. No problem using a Mac keyboard to choose which volume to boot into, just hold down the Option key. The problem is what to do with a PC keyboard. None of the three lower left keys will do the trick. Does anyone know how to choose boot volume at startup on a G4 using a PC keyboard? Thanks, Dale Hoffman Louisville, KY -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Printer Utility
Just use your OS X install disk. On Feb 13, 2011, at 4:25 PM, AndersFager wrote: Folks, Printer Utility is supposed to be in OS X.4, yeas. Any idea if one can find a stand alone installer for it somewhere? Anders -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: strange behavior
The first try unmounts the ZIP disk the second try ejects it? What it means when it says it is in use is that it is mounted. On Feb 11, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I have a dual 500 Mhz Snakebite that is running 10.4.11. I am noticing some unusual behavior recently with my ZIP drive: When I try to eject the ZIP disk, I am told that the ZIP can't be ejected because it is in useeven though it is not. In order to eject the disk, I have to give the command twice. Anyone seen this behavior before? Is there a remedy? Thanks, Larry Eden -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New Video Card in Use
The maximum res the monitor supports. On Feb 8, 2011, at 12:01 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I am using the ATI Radeon Pro 9000 Wgat resolution should I set it to for best results? My monitor is an NEC MultiSync M500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video Card Question
I'd say that the GeForce would be better at games when you play at a lower res. but the Radeon can drive bigger monitors. On Feb 10, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Bruce wrote: Hello, I have two video cards: GeForce FX5200 AGP 8X 64MB Video Memory. Radeon 9200LE PCI 128MB Video Memory. Which one would be considered to be the better of the two? What is considered more important: AGP, or more memory? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Pismo won't boot off HDD or external
First, sorry I'm posting this to this group. I can't seem to join the G-books group without going to the Apple II list and the PowerBooks list nanny takes forever to approve my posts (I posted stuff a month ago and it hasn't been approved yet). I recently got a Pismo and it is refusing to boot off or even detect the internal or external HDD (I can't boot it off a disk since it came with a ZIP drive). I have tried removing the PRAM battery but it is still doing it. I got it to boot off a transplanted HDD from an iBook that died of the logic board issue (it was running 10.2) but when I tried to boot into classic it broke the installation (I forgot that it didn't have classic oops...) and now it won't boot. It just goes to the folder with a question mark icon. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Clouds for Mac's
I would get a RAID docking station, 5, 1 or 2 TB HDDs and an eSATA card for your G5. 5 or 10 TB of storage should be plenty for anything you need. Or you can get a data center grade tape drive but that would be slow and expensive. I'm wondering if someone has subscribed to one of the Cloud Services for their PPC Mac's and in what capacity. What I'd like to know is if these services can replace having multiple HDD's to transfer files such as iTunes and iPhoto libraries, or would it be too slow. Also could I store a CCC's on the Cloud? My G5 PM has 5 HDD's and I'd like to retire a lot of external drives, they get a little hard to keep track of and never seem to be big enough.:-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
Most GPUs can display 1920x1080. I have an ATI Rage 128 with 16 MB of memory that could display 1920x1080. On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:48 AM, Jeremiah Stevens wrote: Once I had a card that put out full 1080p resolution in my PowerMac G4 Quicksilver Single 800mhz. It was a great card but I cannot remember which one it was, I have about 30 cards around here for PC and Mac, so I would have to test them one by one in the PowerMac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
A good Mac card (no flashing needed) would be an ATI Radeon X1600 with 256 MB of RAM. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
Oops... I ment the X1900 card. It only works with PCIe G5s though. On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:42 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: A good Mac card (no flashing needed) would be an ATI Radeon X1600 with 256 MB of RAM. You sure about this? PPC Macs are very different that Intel Macs, and the X1600 was an Intel Mac card, not a PPC Mac card. I've never heard of any PC card that worked with a PC ROM in a PPC PowerMac, they all needed flashing to work in a PPC Mac AFAIK. In Googling around, I don't see any PPC PowerMacs using an X1600, it appears to be used only in Intel Macs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini Max Resolution?
I know Viewsonic makes a great 22 LED monitor that has a max res of 1920x1080. That's what I suspected. I think that a 27 might be a limiting factor but still, it would provide a good deal more real estate... Thanks, JT -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: frivolous question
I think that there is a copy on macintoshgarden.org On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:42 PM, ah...clem wrote: another lister mentioned wanting to run some vintage apps, and it brought to mind one VERY vintage app - After Dark. tho it's a stoopid waste of time and resources, i just have to ask - does anyone know whatever happened to berkeley software? or if there is a current version of after dark (i can't find one), or a way to get them old after dark screensavers to run in OSX? i miss my flying toasters. :'o( -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini HDD speed
Cost? For 2.5 why no use a SSD? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini HDD speed
I think OWC makes a SSD with a PATA interface. That particular Mini uses PATA interface instead of SATA. Finding an SSD in PATA could be problematic. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: File formats change ... just be glad you're not NASA and have to decipher 45 year old data tapes starting by reconstructing the tape mechanism BEFORE trying to decipher the data! Thats why NASA was shut down :) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
IMO Appleworks is better than iWork. On Jan 17, 2011, at 10:42 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Yersinia wrote: Appleworks rocks, YEAH!! Wow, didn't know it would work with Leopard or on a Macintel. I've been running 6.2.9 since I was on OS 9, and kept it when I got Tiger but I'm still with my PPCs (now running 10.4.11 on the Quicksilver 867 and iBook G3/800). It runs on Snow Leopard on my MacBook Pro. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
iWork? I can run Appleworks on my MacBook Pro though. It doesn't even need Rosetta! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
I think there is an OS X version of OpenOffice. On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/01/17 18:44, Wm. Arnold so eloquently wrote: I would like to know what replaces Appleworks. I am using G4 G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11 AppleWorks will run just fine on your PPCs running Tiger. The alternatives are iWork ($79), Office ($150), or NeoOffice (free). Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 'Greyed' screen
Check in the console to see what process it is that is doing that. On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:35 PM, PETER WARNER wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:22 PM, peter wrote: What could this possibly be? Something related to Exposé? It is not when I'm using Expose actively. Tonight, I was in the middle of looking at the G-Group list online, and it suddenly happened, my mouse was not near the hot corner for expose... I have not been able to trace it to any certain activity, or level of activity. It happens (seemingly) randomly, and then goes away randomly. The only thing that I can guarantee to make it go away is a restart. However it will often go away on it's own, after varying periods of time. if it was the whole screen, I would think it was an issue with the video card, or monitor, but I have those odd exceptions. BTW it does not affect my ability to do anything. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Suggested upgrades for a Power Mac G4 PCI Graphics
My Quicksilver gets a geekbech score of 1065, on par with the iMac G5. On Dec 30, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Wayne Stewart wrote: Since the prices on MDD(Mirrored Drive Door) G4s is almost the same as a quicksilver now, I'd get a MDD. Any stock MDD is already way faster than any maxed out Yikes. If you choose the right one, the stock MDD will blow away virtually any upgraded Quicksilver -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes on Tiger
They have it on Apple's website. On Dec 16, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Dec 16, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: Previously, at 9:07 AM -0800 12/16/10, as Daggett Ken so eloquently wrote: I have a hard time remembering the association of Cat Names with numerical designations, but iTunes 9.2.1 is the latest that I can use with MacOS 10.4.11. Ken and where could one find this version, please? Probably on the Tiger Install Disk. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The Attack of the Giant Pixels
Saying that is wrong. That can happen anywhere (ie. the SwapList). It seems to be a that the problem is the video card. Not because it can't handle the resolution but because it may be seated wrong in the slot, dirty, or damaged. On Dec 16, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: This one is very easy NEVER BUY ANYTHING ON EBAY -- I have learned my lessons several times the hard way. I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway=== --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote: From: Tom tba...@nmia.com Subject: The Attack of the Giant Pixels To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 10:19 AM We have two G5s in our family. I have one, and I just got my wife one, too, off Ebay. My G5 had a 23-inch Apple Cinema Display (the old type with the acrylic plastic frame and legs) connected to it for the last couple of years and it worked fine. My G5 has the GeForce 6600 video card with 256 MB of VRAM. It gave me a choice of 17 different resolutions on that big monitor, up to 1920 X 1200. I gave the Cinema Display to my wife to use with her new G5. Hers came with the ATI Radeon 9600 video card, which also has 256 MB of VRAM. However, her G5 is only offering her one resolution: 1920 X 1200. Furthermore, big blocks of pixels, which look like big single megapixels about an eighth of inch square, appear at random all over the screen of the display, which never happened when it was connected to my G5. All it takes to get rid of one of these giant pixels is to swipe the cursor across it and it vanishes, but it's a real nuisance. They pop up within windows, within dialogue boxes, everywhere. My question is, does this sound like a defective video card in her machine? The person who sold us the G5 on Ebay said that this card could drive a 30-inch Apple display. All I can say is, it isn't working so well with this 23-incher. I want to get rid of these sprinklings of giant pixels on her screen and also give her a choice of more resolutions. Should I get a new video card for her G5? If so, what would be a good card to look for? Tom -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
The thing must've had terrible gas milage. On Dec 12, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: On 12/12/2010 1:34 PM, James Therrault wrote: My father once pulled the Number 1 plug wire from our '49 Dodge truck and plugged in my finger to the wire and started the truck. I still remember the look on his face when he grabbed the door handle, not realizing that I had my other hand on the fender, to get out to me. It slapped him across the cab! It seems magnetos put out more juice than coils then. I can still check a plug wire by running it between my fingers while the engine idles. I feel strangely at peace after I do. Magnetos? I thought that they went out long before that. My ol' '31 Studebaker President had points/coil ignition! Two coils at that... JT It was an old Ma Bell Line truck. Sucker had heavy duty everything. 4 inch channel iron for bumpers, welded directly to the frame, big flat head 6, DU model. Was rated at 1.5 ton. Damn I wish we still had that truck. Peace, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
It is a problem when you live in Texas. When you are driving down I-10 and in the middle of nowhere there are gas stations every 100+ miles. On Dec 12, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: Previously, at 4:33 PM -0700 12/12/10, as Alex Barnes so eloquently wrote: The thing must've had terrible gas milage. No big deal when gas was 25¢ a gallon or less! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 DP 450 Gig-E issues
Is the video card a flashed PC version? If it is make sure that pins 311 are disabled by cutting or taping them. On Dec 4, 2010, at 12:40 PM, rtows...@aol.com wrote: Appears to be dead... No power-up light Non fans No chimes No HD spin Seem to recall possibilities are power supply or front panel board. Any way to isolate? I have unplugged monitor, kybd ext FW drive followed by int HD with no change. There are no pci cards installed. Recommendations? Thx BobT DP 450 768 Meg Int 40 GB 20 GB pata Ext 300 GB FW OSX 10.4.11 9.22 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead Drive?
Jumper issue? On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:04 AM, AndersFager wrote: Folks, Installed a brand new 500 gig hd in a G5 iMac. The old one had issues. For reasons unknown Disc Utility has problems even formating the damned thing. And refuses to partion it. Disc Warrior does not even see the new drive. What can be wrong? The machine has a new battery and from what I can make out the drive and the fans start ok, the screen works. Anders -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple inside?
(snip) Well you are right that AMD does not do PPC CPUs you could not be more wrong about the switch to Intel being a smart move. They only did it to boost lagging laptop sales because they were stuck with the G4 because the G5 ran too hot to stick it in a laptop and they were loosing clock speed marketing war because the G4 was pushed pretty much to it's limit. The thing is Motorola/IBM did deliver on a PPC solution that had a low energy power footprint drastically lower then anything Intel had and that Blew even the top G5s out of the water but it came a few months too late because Apple in their impatience jumped too soon and ended up with a mediocre solution all because they could not push back a release date on new laptops. (snip) The switch to Intel was a smart move because it enabled the Macs to dual boot Windoze and in turn it brought in a lot of sales. Also, I like the Intel CPUs because even the weakest ones were faster than the G5s. My 13 MBP has wy better benchmarks than the last Powermac G5. On Oct 24, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Daniel Stewart wrote: Well you are right that AMD does not do PPC CPUs you could not be more wrong about the switch to Intel being a smart move. They only did it to boost lagging laptop sales because they were stuck with the G4 because the G5 ran too hot to stick it in a laptop and they were loosing clock speed marketing war because the G4 was pushed pretty much to it's limit. The thing is Motorola/IBM did deliver on a PPC solution that had a low energy power footprint drastically lower then anything Intel had and that Blew even the top G5s out of the water but it came a few months too late because Apple in their impatience jumped too soon and ended up with a mediocre solution all because they could not push back a release date on new laptops. On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 11:47 AM, schaf...@comcast.net wrote: - Original Message - From: James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 4:07:20 AM Subject: Re: Apple inside? On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Dan wrote: I'm thinking by next summer/fall, Apple will be offering A4 portables and Core i7 and i9 desktops. OS X and iOS merged (Lion being the first step), and able to run on either ARM or x86. yum. Interesting, but I still think that Apple dropped the ball with regard to option to power sucking G5 chips for laptops. Neither IBM or Motorola could do it but maybe a special arrangement with other Intel competitors to work on a low power PPC such as AMD could have proven fruitful. Power technology is now way up there with regards to clock speed supporting multiple cores. Just my 2¢ worth... JT (Curses on Comcast for not setting the quote function.) 8^P AMD does not do PPC. Apple's decision to do Intel, particularly for laptops, was sound. It let them compete with PCs. It was because Motorola could not deliver a low-energy, powerful footprint. Intel is undeniably better at that! As a G4/G5 participant, I lament the loss of g4/g5 technology, but I understand the move to Intel. Moving to an Apple-produced processor also is intriguing. Let the good times roll... - Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IS the world about to change ?
Buy it now before it becomes Lion-only. On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Arnel Tuazon wrote: On 20/10/10 12:26 PM, Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Lion ? To be fair Steve did say (regarding the App store), that it won't be the only place to get software. However questions I have are: 1) I'm guessing we can still create an empty folder so one can use them for files? 2) The demo didn't show a hard drive on the desktop, but we'd still have access to it right? 3) Can we just turn Mission Control off and go into a classic mac style mode? (i.e. traditional OS X interface) I had to watch this thing on my iPhone since the G5 and Leopard have been denied entry to the party. One of the windows that was opened did look like you could access the hard drive from the side panel. I was planning on joining the intel Mac crowd and buying a new Mac Pro next year, but would I hesitate just because of Lion? Nah, I'll wait till I get the whole picture of Lion before making any final decision on it. I'd still buy the Pro, but maybe keep it at Snow Leopard till I know more about Lion. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
