Re: MDD Won't Boot from OS 9.2.2

2010-11-02 Thread Cadeon
Look here.
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/macintosh-system-922-1021-power-macintosh-g4-mirrored-drive-doors-mdd

The MDD uses a special 9.2.2.

On Nov 2, 1:13 pm, t...@io.com t...@io.com wrote:
 Continuing this old thread from May of 2008

 I am reduced to using Google Groups for my access, so I can't reply
 directly to that thread, but hopefully using the same subject will
 thread it together.

 When last we left the MDD in my office, I had 9.2.2 booting (thanks
 again, Kris) by adding the Mac OS ROM 9.5.1 file.   However, I had a
 problem where QuickTime 6.0.3 seemed to be hanging the computer at the
 desktop after the drive volumes appeared.  The mouse cursor would
 move, but I couldn't click or select anything.

 Playing the divide-extensions-in-half game seemed to indicate that the
 problem was caused by QuickTime.

 Last night I was trying to get my Seagate Extreme 1.5 terabyte drive
 to not be dead and somehow digressed over to the 9.2.2 booting problem
 for the first time in a couple of years.

 At the desktop freeze I happened to hit cmd-opt-esc and the message I
 received was Force ATI Video Accelerator to quit?

 Aha, a clue.   I put Quicktime back in, took the ATI extension named
 above out, and it boot up fine.  However, a little more searching
 indicated that ATI Video Accelerator actually does something (not sure
 what) useful.

 So a little more searching and it turned out that there was a more
 recent version.  The OS install + updates that got me to 9.2.2 had
 installed ATI Video Accelerator 4.8.5, but 4.8.7 appears to be the
 latest version.   So I found the ATI OS 9 Mac Software Update from
 January 2005 and installed that, replacing my older components.

 After that I was able to boot up with both QuickTime and the ATI Video
 Accelerator enabled, without issues.   IIRC this MDD has a Radeon 9000
 installed and that may play a part as well.   Perhaps the ones with an
 Nvidia card would not experience this problem.

 So that problem solved.   And interestingly, all the missing/newer
 components (except ATI components) needed to make an MDD work seem to
 be present on the iMac G4/800 (the OS9 bootable one, not the later OSX
 only G4/800) standard installation.

 Next problem:  No sound in 9.2.2.   Adjusting the volume in the Sound
 CP causes the CP to visually flash and the volume goes back to zero,
 but no sound.   After more google searching, I did a side by side
 comparison of the MDD extensions folder and the iMac G4/800 (iLamp)
 extensions folder.   Teh Sound Manager was newer on the MDD, but the
 Apple Audio Extension was 1.x.x (1.5.1?) on the MDD and 2.x.x (IIRC)
 on the iMac.   So I dragged everything sound related with a newer
 version number over to the MDD.   Files I looked at included Apple
 Audio Extension, Sound Manager, SoundSproketLib, SoundSprocket Filter,
 Sound Manager, SoundSpace2Lib, and USBSoundSpace2Driver.

 After a reboot, I then had sound.   If anyone is interested I'll try
 to get an extensions manager listing when I'm at home.

 So, the MDD seems to be pretty functional at this point with 9.2.2.
 I'm rather happy at solving these two issues, as this has been
 weighing in the back of mind for two years as one of the projects I
 should get to some day before the computer goes out of service,
 although honestly, my partner, Diane, never boots into Classic, so I'm
 not sure why I care that much.

 There are two issues left that I am aware of:

 1)   How do I get the %^#$%#$ DVD drive open?   The keyboard function
 keys don't work in OS 9.2.2 and the keyboard shortcut for Eject only
 works if there is already a disk in the drive.

 2)  The Apple DVD Player software reports some kind of inability to
 work, but is unspecific as to the cause.

 I hope this helps other and thanks for any suggestions on the final
 two problems.

 Jeff Walther

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Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?

2010-10-31 Thread Cadeon
OHCI... I knew there was a trick to it.

On Oct 31, 12:43 am, Peter Haas peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:
 On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Cadeon wrote:

  The big thing lacking here is USB 2. There are a lot of cheap (I mean
  really cheap) USB 2 PCI cards out there, but I'm worried that it's
  going to be hit-or-miss for one off the shelf working in my G4, with
  leopard.

 Just be sure to get an OHCI-compliant card.

 Should work on OS 9 also, but not necessarily at 2.0 speed.

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USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?

2010-10-30 Thread Cadeon
I just got my first MDD... and wow, I'm amazed how good it is. I was
expecting something that could barely run leopard like my G4 800
iBook. So not the case.

The big thing lacking here is USB 2. There are a lot of cheap (I mean
really cheap) USB 2 PCI cards out there, but I'm worried that it's
going to be hit-or-miss for one off the shelf working in my G4, with
leopard. It'd be a nice bonus if it worked in OS 9 also... preferably
at 2.0 speeds...

I'm sure others have been down this path... what do I need to buy?

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