Sawtooth Upgrade
I have a 400 MHZ G4 Sawtooth that I would like to upgrade. Switching the processor is prohibitively expensive. What kind of video card can I stick in this? What about a SATA card? Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Polish Language
I have a G4 Sawtooth that I would like to use to type emails in Polish. It is running 10.4. Is there a way of changing the language you want, besides loading a new operating system? Thanks Jasiu -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth
I know that Apple states that the processor has to be above 866 MHZ for this to run. I have 2 gigs of RAM on a 400 MHZ G4. Is there a work around for this machine? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 Blue and White
What patch is that? On May 28, 6:23 pm, Larry Stotler larrystot...@gmail.com wrote: On May 28, 4:55 pm, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: The Sonnet G4 500 is one of the best available upgrades for a BW or Yikes. The OP needs to make sure he runs the 3rd party patch to allow the G4 to work in the G3 tho. Almost forgot that. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G3 Blue and White
I have a 350MHZ G3 BW. I wanted to upgrade the processor, any idea of the fastest processor I can go with? I just put an 80 GB hard drive in it, running 10.3.9. Any other ideas for upgrading? Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Video Card G4 450 MHZ YIKES!
Whats the fastest video card I can put in the above mentioned computer? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Dual Processor Compatible?
I know this has been answered before but where do I go to check to see if my G4 AGP is DP compatible -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G3 BlueWhite
Couple of questions. How do I tell whether it is a rev 2 or not? How do I take out the hard drive? I took out the small screw to the right but it still is fastened somewhere. How difficult would it be to put another faster processor in there? What is the latest OS that I can run? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Wireless 350 MHZ Yikes!
How far can I expect wireless coverage without the use of a repeater? My father has a cabin approximately 80 yards from his house. He would like to have internet reception there as well. Anyone know what range I can expect from an 802.11n card? Which one will work in aforementioned machine? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G4 PCI Mac
was wondering.. IfI wanted to use wireless on a 350 MHZ PCI runninng 10.3 do I have to use Airport or will a third party vendor acrd work as well. What about the USB type or wireless adapters? I saw a processor upgrade that allows you to put a G3 1000 MHZ processor in place of the G4. Any thoughts? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
I have a G4 Sawtooth 400 MHZ machine running 10.4.11. I want to put a larger HD in. How do I go about saving thew OS that is currently on it? Can I put it on a thumbdrive? Will it boot from it? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
I do have two hard drives. The one with the OS is a 10 GB drive with 1.6 GB left. The other drive is an 80 GB drive with 73 GB left. I though I had moved over the applications and such from the smaller one to the larger one, but perhaps I've missed a few. What is safe to move over? On Aug 26, 12:47 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:27 AM -0700 8/26/2009, Jasiu wrote: G4 Sawtooth 400 MHZ machine running 10.4.11. I want to put a larger HD in. Just add another drive! Use the original drive for the operating system, applications, and your basic user files. Use the new drive for your other / big stuff - movies, music, etc. Much more efficient to throw data around from two drives than to bottleneck it on one! How do I go about saving thew OS that is currently on it? Make a backup using an app such as Carbon Copy Cloner (free). Can I put it on a thumbdrive? Yes, if it's big enough. Make sure you re-initialize it as HFS+ Journaled, case insensative, first tho, so you don't corrupt the Mac's file system when you make the backup. Most such devices are FAT (PC) formatted originally. Will it boot from it? Um I think Sawtooth can boot from a USB device. So then it probably would boot from a flash drive. Bruce? Someone? yes? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
So I am confused now. Do I need to use Copy Clone to put the entire disc on the larger one? Or can I just add the user directory files to the larger one? Do I use terminal or is it just a draga nd drop kinda thing? On Aug 26, 4:37 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Jasiu wrote: I do have two hard drives. The one with the OS is a 10 GB drive with 1.6 GB left. The other drive is an 80 GB drive with 73 GB left. I though I had moved over the applications and such from the smaller one to the larger one, but perhaps I've missed a few. What is safe to move over? Your user directory, which is generally by far the largest directory on the system is still on the small drive. You can use the directions here: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2007041217125440 http://web.archive.org/web/20060418030927/www.bombich.com/mactips/hom... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options
My 400 MHZ G4 scored a 7 on the Uni test so it should take DP. So what is the max processor I can just drop in. Anything will work as long as it's a Sawtooth or Gig series? MDD? On Aug 20, 5:14 pm, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:34 PM, d p wrote: Alrigt. So I got a 450 AGP G4, what proccessor can I drop in without any modifications? The only straight drop ins from Apple that will increase your speed are a single 500 from a Sawtooth or duals from the Gig ethernet series. In order to use them the duals, you need to have a Uni-N revision of 7 or higher. Here is a link to a download to test. http://newertech.com/tech_support/uni-north.php As to non Apple drop ins, most G4 accelerators will work. Most are either autosensing or have dip switches to work with the motherboard speed. The pins are the same from Sawtooth through Quicksilver, and most manufacturers built their upgrades to fit all of those. You can probably pick up a 900-1Ghz processor on the swap list for around $100. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G4 350 Mhz
I'm refurbishing some older computers for the local church. We were given a G4 350 that is password protected. How do I wipe out the old disc and reinstall an OS. Is there another way of bypassing the password that doesn't require reinstalling the OS? Thanks for the help. Jasiu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G4 400 MHZ AGP Upgrade
Can I put a different MB into my 400 MHZ G4 in order to make it faster? If I can, what boards can I use. Thx --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
233Mhz G3 Imac
My father just gave me a teal colored 233 Mhz G3 Imac. Here are the specifics: 233 Mhz G3, OS 9.2.2 96MB memory Machine ID 406. Can this machine be upgraded? How difficult is it to get to the insides of the computer? What's the latest OS it can run and how much memory can it use? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Choosing Start Up Disc
So can I just drag my start up folder over to the other disc? On Apr 15, 10:28 am, PETE sabaoth...@yahoo.com wrote: To choose a start up disc, open system preferences and then click on the start up disc icon. You can then choose which disc you want to be the start up disc. Restart your computer. Pete. --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Jasiu johnschiavone...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jasiu johnschiavone...@gmail.com Subject: Choosing Start Up Disc To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 6:54 AM Help I have a G4 Sawtooth 400 Mhz with a 10 G start up disc and an 80G secondary drive. I wanted to download the newest I tunes but it takes 300 M and I only have 101M left. When I move over files to the secondary drive the start up drive still reads the same amount. How do I open up enough space? Can I make the 80G a strt up drive? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Downloading Question
You are right it is Old Skool but thats because I am OLD. I remember punch cards. I think. Now its time for some nice pureed breakfast and then a nap ;-) On Dec 30 2008, 12:36 pm, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: This is a Browser function --- For Safari, the control is on the first page of general preferences (for Safari) HTH Chuck D. On Dec 30, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Jasiu wrote: I have a G4 Sawtooth running OS 10.4.11. I have two hard drives, A B. When I download something it automatically goes to drive A. Now I want to download something to B how do I accomplish that? Thanks One other ting, the A B are 'Old School, WINTEL' designations. Suggest you rename them to something meaningful to you. C. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Downloading Question
I have a G4 Sawtooth running OS 10.4.11. I have two hard drives, A B. When I download something it automatically goes to drive A. Now I want to download something to B how do I accomplish that? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Tattle tale????
I once heard of a program similar to Belarc for a PC that tells you everything that is going on in your PPC Mac. I can't seem to remember its name. Anybody have a clue? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
HP 895c Printer
I have an 895c printer hooked up to my G4 Sawtooth. The printer is on and connected. Yet when I try to print nothing happens. The documents go in the que and then stay there forever until I get rid of them. Any ideas? Happy Thanksgiving --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G4 Sawtooth Upgrade
How can I tell if I can install dual processors on my 400 MHZ Sawtooth? Is the installation of DP even warranted or should I just install a faster single processor? Are there many programs that take advantage of duals? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Sawtooth Upgrade
Bruce, Did you install the new processor yourself? How difficult is it to do? On Nov 24, 5:02 pm, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 24, 2008, at 2:37 PM, Jasiu wrote: How can I tell if I can install dual processors on my 400 MHZ Sawtooth? There are numerous DP upgrades for that one, both third party made for it, and ones that shipped from Apple (although those were only ever dual 500's iirc), whether they're cost-effective is an entirely different subject. Is the installation of DP even warranted or should I just install a faster single processor? A single 1Ghz upgrade for that is cheap, and quite effective. I have the GigEthernet Mac (same as Sawtooth but faster ethernet and another few minor diffs) with a OWC 1Gig upgrade in mine and it's still quite serviceable. A faster video card than the stock is almost as good an upgrade, though. I have a ATI Radeon 9000 in mine (iirc...their low end upgrade) and it's helped as well. Are there many programs that take advantage of duals? Depending on the OS version, a lot. OS X itself makes good use of DP architectures. That said, any program that crunches that hard probably is better served by saving your money for a newer, faster Mac. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Dual Processors - interchangeable with singles?
As I understand it, not every program takes advantage of the dual processors. How do you know which programs utilize dual processors. If none of the programs you use can utilize dual processors is there any advantage to having dual processors? On Nov 2, 12:17 pm, PeterH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 2, 2008, at 12:04 AM, Paul wrote: How much interchangeability is there between the AGP, Gigabit, and Digital Audio models? (QS = Quicksilver?) Someone local is selling a non-working QS with dual 800 MHz. So that CPU card wouldn't work in an AGP or Gigabit G4, but might work in a DA? 100 MHz bus processors work in 100 MHz bus machines, if the sockets match. 133 MHz bus processors work in 133 MHz bus machines, if the QS (Quicksilver) power cable adapter is made for the DA (Digital Audio). 100 and 133 MHz bus processors cannot be interchanged under any circumstances (excepting certain Giga Designs and OWC, and possibly a few others, which are specifically designed to work on either bus speed and slot location). For Apple processors, the connector is the same, but 100 MHz bus processors are laid out for 4 RAM slot machines, whereas 133 MHz bus processors are laid out for 3 RAM slot machines. A dual 450 or 500 may be installed in a single 450 or 500, provided the LSI is up to the required level (7, I think). There is good interchangeability between processors on non-Gigabit and Gigabit (the raw motherboard are actually quite similar). On any processor swap, the complete processor/heatsink/fan should be interchanged. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
