Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

[Jesse StJohn]

> My 2.3 dual CPU G5 is super picky about RAM. I had to reseat RAM and
> restart about 30x to get 4 pairs in all 8 slots to recognize
> simultaneously. It took hours. I got one pair to recognize, then shutdown
> and added a new pair until I got two pairs, then added a third pair, and
> finally a fourth pair. VERY frustrating experience. I haven't touched the
> RAM since then, a couple years ago. I've got 6GB total as 4x1GB and
> 4x512MB. I've now got four more 1GB sticks so I could upgrade to the 8GB
> max but I'm too chicken to risk the likely hassles for only 2GB extra.
> Someday I intend to add the extra RAM, just not now. I'd say ... keep
> trying ... with crossed fingers.
>
>
>

^ this is what concerns me when i jump to a g5 here in a
month   yaaarg

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Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002

[Jesse StJohn]

i have mdd thats  maxed out. its great, and i plan on  using it until
it goes toasty, it also runs the last version of leopard as
well   good for you :)

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Peter Plas  wrote:

> Hello G4 users,
>
> I have a Quicksilver G4 2002 running OSX 10.5.8 with 1.5 GB of RAM and two
> internal Harddisks ( 320 GB and 160 GB) installed
> and I use it every day. It still looks as if it came right out of the box.
> Last week I put in a new pram battery after 10 years !
> As long as I will be able to run most of my software for surfing (using
> TenFourFox7450) and word processing (open office)  I will continue to use it
>
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Re: Linux question

[Jesse StJohn]

its(slackware 14 being ported to ppc) actually in development at this
moment,  trust me i know those guys they are pretty close , a lot of intel
specifics needs to be removed and personally i think slack 14 to be
bloated, hell it has been bloated since 10. a nice  real slack distro thats
not full of crap would be amazing.

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 5:09 AM, James Knight wrote:

> Im a slackware friend, but slackintosh hasn't had a release in 4 years.
> Might be dead.
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
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> On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Jesse StJohn 
> wrote:
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> try slackintosh, decent slackware derivative for ppc. or lfs..
>
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> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Ben Kernan  wrote:
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>> I have a g-4 400 (sawtooth ?),1gig ram w/12 & 40 gig drives. Currently
>> running 10.4 on the 40. What flavor Linux could I put on the 12, & what
>> freeware would work with it,if any is available. This would be an
>> educational tool for me as I have a 24" iMac.
>> I seem to remember something called Stone Suite as an early s/w package
>> for Linux...
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Re: Linux question

[Jesse StJohn]

try slackintosh, decent slackware derivative for ppc. or lfs..


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Ben Kernan  wrote:

> I have a g-4 400 (sawtooth ?),1gig ram w/12 & 40 gig drives. Currently
> running 10.4 on the 40. What flavor Linux could I put on the 12, & what
> freeware would work with it,if any is available. This would be an
> educational tool for me as I have a 24" iMac.
> I seem to remember something called Stone Suite as an early s/w package
> for Linux...
>
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Yosemite 400mhz rev2, AT&T rv100, apple DVD player conundrum

[Jesse Stjohn]

Ok so I have Mac os 9.2 on my Yosemite with a gig of ram and 400mhz  CPU, went 
to play a DVD, and golly wouldn't you know, it doesn't work, play or anything 
else. Everything works in my machine (sound, USB, video, DVD-rom) and I have no 
conflicting wares as far as I know. It does read DVDs(also burned DVDs as a 
storage medium as well) but apple DVD player won't work due to error 21, some 
tripe about having to stop using other programs, or I don't have the hardware 
to use the software. Whatever. My video is Not the rage or rage pro but the 
radeon 7000. I do have updated drivers from ati and it is as good as Mac os 9 
gets.  Any help would be nice and apple DVD ver is 1.2

We Are making use of this for the kids obsessive Dora the explorer and max and 
ruby marathons, so any clues how to make it work would be fabulous. 

Unfortunately at the moment my only net is on my phone so I can't get it online 
or update it. 

I suck I know...


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G5 Xserve troubleshooting

[Jesse Stjohn]

Hi listers, recently I acquired an g5 Xserve 2ghz dp, and i was wondering if 
there is a good manual for this thing that explains the
Lights on the mobo(ds3,ds9,what have you) it believe this g5 has problems, so I 
am comin to you guys. It starts and then stops. I don't honestly think it 
posts. Any help would be appreciated

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Re: G5 and ADC

[Jesse Stjohn]

Well then I'll take all of them you guys want to recycle ;)

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On May 2, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Kris Tilford  wrote:

> On May 2, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
> 
>> This is why ADC monitors are dirt cheap, they're well-nigh useless.
> 
> Amen.
> 
> I see 4x3 aspect ratio LCD monitors for dirt cheap, say $20 for a 17" that's 
> 1280x1024, a little more for a 19" or larger. Small 16x9 LCD are cheap used 
> also, people often upgrade a computer and use it with their HDTV or 
> something, so I can't see any reason to not recycle an ADC monitor. The OP 
> was asking about "energy efficiency" of G5's, when an LCD monitor at retail 
> will pay for itself in energy savings in 3 years, and a used one in a few 
> short months. From an energy efficiency standpoint LCD monitors are a 
> no-brainer.
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Re: G4 and OS 10.5

[Jesse Stjohn]

My dual1.25
Mdd  is doing very well with 10.5, not faster than tiger just different 
I love it.

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On May 2, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Bruce Johnson  wrote:

> 
> On May 2, 2012, at 9:52 AM, James Morgan wrote:
> 
>>I have two MDD G4's running OS 10.4.11. Does anyone know if these 
>> computers will successfully run OS 10.5?
> 
> Unless they're RAM-starved (< 1G, and pretty cheap to fix) yes they'll run 
> 10.5 just fine.
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Re: Oil Cooling

[Jesse Stjohn]

To the person who mentioned using marine coolant in their g5, pm me some info 
on that as that is my next goal over the next couple of months To score 
a quad for myself AND my wife, and both of us use processor intensive programs 
in relatively warm climates.

Thank you much

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On Mar 15, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Dan  wrote:

> At 1:32 PM -0400 3/12/2012, Illirik Smirnov wrote:
>> I'm considering oil-cooling my DP 2.5 PMG5.
> 
> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/stats/powermac_g5_2.5_dp.html
> 
>> This would involve putting the computer (sans ports, hdd, cd) in a tub of 
>> mineral oil. It doesn't conduct electricity, and as such would be perfect 
>> for this use. It has been done many times with PCs; does anyone know 
>> anything that may keep the G5 from working optimally?
> 
> hum.  wow.  I've heard of this being done but have never seen it. Intriguing 
> idea.  Personally, I'd never do it... At some point, I'd have to go in there 
> to fix or add something and I cannot abide by oily slimy things! blech!  lol
> 
> Are you experiencing any particular issue with your Power Mac that has led 
> you to this?
> 
> If the heat transfer is really good, it might make for some overclocking 
> opportunities!  Can a Power Mac G5 be overclocked?
> 
> I know that the liquid cooled G5 bricks are known to have problems as they 
> get older.  I'm thinking going whole-system oil cooled like this might maybe 
> be a solution ... depending on how the leaking liquid coolant mixes with the 
> mineral oil.  OTGH, it might be better to oil an air-cooled G5.
> 
> Extending the USB and FW to the top of the tank should be easy.  I wouldn't 
> bother with the SATA interface until you got everything else working.  
> Booting off the 800 Mbps Firewire2 instead of 1.5G SATA is good enough for 
> testing.
> 
> Most PCs are fairly open in their design.  Slap in a few fans, and there's 
> good air flow.  But the Power Mac G5 is tightly compartmentalized.  I wonder 
> if the fluid flow will still be ok? It's not enough that fluid flows.  It has 
> to actually circulate to the radiator system.  Otherwise, the oil will 
> happily distribute the heat evenly through that compartment, making it hotter 
> and hotter. I've never gutted a PM G5.  Are there any dust filters in there?
> 
> I would check any/all parts for labels and such.  Puget Systems has a FAQ 
> that mentions the oil dissolved the gum, loosening the labels.
> http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php
> 
> Do you have/need the G5 service / take-apart manuals?
> 
> An interesting project...  If you do this, please keep us in the loop!  I'd 
> love to know how it goes!
> 
> 
> At 12:45 AM +0100 3/15/2012, Valter Prahlad wrote:
>> I'm doubtful about the power supply fan, though, and I'm very skeptical 
>> about immersing the HD in oil: it isn't designed to work in oil, and the 
>> very strict tolerances might lead to trouble. (unless it's leak-proof; but 
>> on HDs I always noticed a tiny hole you must not cover, so it's not sealed)
> 
> Puget Systems had no problem with the fans.  They didn't dip the HDs - those 
> are mounted in the tank's top.
> 
> At 11:37 PM -0400 3/14/2012, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>> Don't go for the bubbles though it will reduce heat transfer. Or is that 
>> important?  Or is it really about having a showy conversation piece?
> 
> Their example had too many bubbles, I think.  But geeze - ya gotta have some!
> 
> And maybe one of those USB powered swimming fishies!
> 
> I donno.  The more I think about it the more cool this project seems.  lol
> 
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Re: Oil Cooling

[Jesse Stjohn]

Actually y ruin a perfectly good system for that? Just asking .. Also it 
stinks but not like fries, I think possible a DUI watercool would be more 
effective. 

People putting their pc's in mineral oil is like masterbating in public, just 
because you can doesn't mean you should. But maybe that is why you want to do 
it. Good luck either way. And yes you can you must submerse everything except 
hd's DVD drives and other things ..

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On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Valter Prahlad  
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> Il giorno 12-03-2012 18:32, Illirik Smirnov ha scritto:
> 
>> I'm considering oil-cooling my DP 2.5 PMG5. This would involve putting the
>> computer (sans ports, hdd, cd) in a tub of mineral oil.
> This sounds weird. :-o
> Do you mean immersing the whole processors assembly into oil?
> 
> Would it smell like fries? ;-D
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