Re: Digest for g3-5-list - 25 messages in 5 topics

2009-11-15 Thread Steve Payne

On Nov 14, 2009, at 4:57 PM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote:

  Today's Topic Summary
   •   Single boop on startup [1 update]
   •   Will a 1.6 GHz Processor Upgrade Allow my G4 to Run Flash? [2 
 updates]
   •   Multiple messages [1 update]
   •   G4 powerbook with leopard as start up disk for G4 desktop with 
 9.2? [3 updates]
   •   Newbie: Help! Powermac G4 Dual 867Mhz Mirror Door [18 updates]
  Topic: Single boop on startup
   •   Bill Christensen billc_li...@greenbuilder.com Nov 14 05:52PM 
 -0600
   •   
  
   •   Hi folks,
   •    
   •   I've got a G4 that's giving me startup problems.
   •    
   •   I've tried replacing most everything but the motherboard, but 
 am 
   •   currently just getting a single boop tone on start up. And I 
 can't 
   •   remember what the likely problem is when that happens, as I 
 don't 
   •   recall having that occur previously to any of my machines.
   •    
   •   I've swapped processors, ram, PRAM battery and powersupply (the 
   •   previous one would start and immediately shut off) with known 
 working 
   •   versions (except the processor, which goes in the assumed 
 working 
   •   category).
   •    
   •   Am I looking at a fubar'd mobo?
   •    
   •    
   •   -- 
   •   Bill Christensen
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   •    
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   •    
  Topic: Will a 1.6 GHz Processor Upgrade Allow my G4 to Run Flash?
   •   Paul pper...@gmail.com Nov 14 01:11PM -0800
   •   
  
   •   Has Flash gotten worse, or were we suffering in the stone age 
 when we
   •   had 400 MHz machines?
   •    
   •   Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Nov 14 02:19PM 
 -0700
   •   
  
   •   
   •   On Nov 14, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Paul wrote:
   •    
   •Has Flash gotten worse, or were we suffering in the stone age 
 when we
   •had 400 MHz machines?
   •    
   •    
   •    
   •   Yes. :-)
   •   -- 
   •   Bruce Johnson
   •    
   •   Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD
   •    
   •    
  Topic: Multiple messages
   •   rmwoods rmwo...@interlog.com Nov 14 12:37PM -0800
   •   
  
   •   All of a sudden a few days ago my subscription changed from one 
 or two
   •   daily digests to a copy of every message. It's too much on my 
 slow
   •   connection. I have tried to change my settings, to no avail so 
 far. I
   •   tried again just now. Let's see what happens tomorrow.
   •   I still like to read the various messages, although perforce, 
 for now,
   •   I am having to use an old PC. It's just not the same.
   •    
  Topic: G4 powerbook with leopard as start up disk for G4 desktop with 9.2?
   •   Dwight Hines dwight.hi...@gmail.com Nov 14 10:07AM -0500
   •   
  
   •   I have a power g4 running leopard and want to use it as start 
 up disk for my
   •   Desktop G4 that is running OS-9.2.
   •    
   •   What is the best way of doing that?
   •    
   •   Dwight Hines
   •   St. Augustine, Florida
   •    
   •   Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com Nov 14 08:12AM -0700
   •   
  
   •   On 11/14/09 8:07 AM, Dwight Hines wrote:
   •I have a power g4 running leopard and want to use it as start 
 up disk
   •for my Desktop G4 that is running OS-9.2.
   •   I'm not sure 9.2 will recognize the option I'm aware of, that 
 being 
   •   Firewire startup option. But you for sure can do so if the 
 desktop has OSX.
   •    
   •   Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net Nov 14 02:14PM -0500
   •   
  
   •   
   •   On Nov 14, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Nestamicky wrote:
   •    
   •has OSX.
   •   
   •   It's the G4 firmware, that recognizes the 'Target Disk Mode' 
  NOT 
   •   the 9.2 Operating system.
   •    
   •   Chuck D.
   •    
  Topic: Newbie: Help! Powermac G4 Dual 867Mhz Mirror Door
   •   Patrick Lee patrick8...@gmail.com Nov 14 03:51AM -0800
   •   
  
   •   Hi, I messed up BIG time!
   •    
   •  

Re: Digest for g3-5-list - 13 messages in 6 topics

2009-11-15 Thread Steve Payne

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:48 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote:

  Today's Topic Summary
   •   Data Recovery Part 2 [4 updates]
   •   CCC hosed t-bird update 1 [1 update]
   •   Newbie G4 Dual 1.25 FW 400 OS9 Boot Problem [1 update]
   •   Will a 1.6 GHz Processor Upgrade Allow my G4 to Run Flash? [4 
 updates]
   •   Single boop on startup [2 updates]
   •   iPhoto home movies disappear using CCC [1 update]
  Topic: Data Recovery Part 2
   •   Paul pper...@gmail.com Nov 14 06:12PM -0800
   •   
  
   •   Testdisk seems more suitable for fixing partition problems, 
 rather
   •   than recovering a directory structure lost by formatting. The 
 demo
   •   versions of both File Salvage and Data Rescue have brought up a 
 bunch
   •   of working files. Since the disk is formatted FAT32 (but 
 formatted on
   •   a Mac by Disk Utility), I had tried it on a PC, but there 
 several
   •   different recovery tools found lots of files, but they were 
 unreadable.
   •    
   •   Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com Nov 15 04:16AM +0200
   •   
  
   •   than recovering a directory structure lost by formatting
   •    
   •   Try test disc with deep search...
   •    
   •   do not use lots of recovey tools that change disc 
 architecture...
   •    
   •   For Data Rescue...
   •   
 http://www.macosxapplications.com/system-disk-utilities/data-rescue-3-emergency-hard-drive-recovery-file-recovery/
   •    
   •    
   •   2009/11/15 Paul pper...@gmail.com
   •    
   •    
   •   -- 
   •   Baha Ata
   •    
   •   Paul pper...@gmail.com Nov 14 11:23PM -0800
   •   
  
   •   As far as I know, none of the tools I used changed the disk at 
 all.
   •    
   •   Now that I looked at it and found out what it's for, the 
 companion
   •   utility to Testdisk - Photorec - looks more promising for what 
 I'm
   •   trying to do. It finds deleted files, rather than deleted 
 partitions.
   •   There's a version for Mac, Windows, and Linux. And it's free.
   •    
   •   Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com Nov 15 11:06AM +0200
   •   
  
   •   good thing share your expeirence after please
   •    
   •   2009/11/15 Paul pper...@gmail.com
   •    
   •    
   •   -- 
   •   Baha Ata
   •    
  Topic: CCC hosed t-bird update 1
   •   Charles Lenington macso...@tds.net Nov 14 11:09PM -0600
   •   
  
   •   Dan wrote:
   •- Dan.
   •
   •    
   •   latest attempt. Still missing some messages although folders 
 are showing 
   •   empty sub folders.
   •   Appears to have more messages now but not all.
   •   Some of the missing data folders seem to lock up requiring 
 force quit. I 
   •   used incremental clone.
   •   Ran disk repair (and repair permissions although I know it 
 shouldn't 
   •   affect problem).
   •    
   •    
   •   log
   •    
   •    Carbon Copy Cloner (v. 3.3): 2009-11-14 
 13:46:35 -0600 
   •    
   •   Operating System: Version 10.4.11 (Build 8S165)
   •    
   •   Hardware:
   •   hw.machine: Power Macintosh
   •   hw.model: PowerMac3,6
   •   hw.logicalcpu: 1
   •   hw.physmem: 2147483648
   •   vm.loadavg: 1.27 1.36 1.00
   •    
   •    
   •   Task: Copying selected files (-psn_0_2883585)
   •   Source: mdd1.0 d2 (/dev/disk1s3, 
 9B59AA28-32FB-3AE0-A300-B3CA1E1D1900)
   •   Mount point: /
   •   Filesystem: hfs
   •   Capacity: 68.44 GiB 
   •   Used: 48.19 GiB 
   •   Available: 20.25 GiB 
   •   Mac OS X version: 10.4.11
   •    
   •   Target: mdd1.0 d3 180 (/Volumes/mdd1.0 d3 180/ [/dev/disk2s3, 
 A5E6D052-379C-3570-8EA1-1285EB351CEA])
   •   Mount point: /Volumes/mdd1.0 d3 180
   •   Filesystem: hfs
   •   Capacity: 172.43 GiB 
   •   Used: 63.71 MiB 
   •   Available: 172.37 GiB 
   •   Mac OS X version: Mac OS not installed
   •    
   •   Bootability: This volume will be bootable.
   •    
   •   Cloning method: Incremental backup of selected items
   •   Delete: No
   •   Protect: No
   •   Archive: No
   •   Compress: No
   •    
   •    
   •   13:46:35 The target volume has ownership enabled.
   •   13:46:35 ACLs are not enabled on the source volume, not 
 enabling them on the target volume.

Re: Digest for g3-5-list - 25 messages in 8 topics

2009-11-15 Thread Steve Payne

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:43 PM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote:

  Today's Topic Summary
   •   Data Recovery Part 2 [3 updates]
   •   Single boop on startup [1 update]
   •   Will a 1.6 GHz Processor Upgrade Allow my G4 to Run Flash? [2 
 updates]
   •   receipt reply required for each message [10 updates]
   •   iPhoto home movies disappear using CCC [5 updates]
   •   CCC hosed t-bird update 1 [1 update]
   •   RIP needed [1 update]
   •   Throwing out old password on G4 iBook running Tiger 10.4.11 [2 
 updates]
  Topic: Data Recovery Part 2
   •   Paul pper...@gmail.com Nov 15 08:32AM -0800
   •   
  
   •   Unfortunately, connecting the drive to a Mac (running Tiger) 
 creates a
   •   few files automatically, such as .DS_Store and .Trashes. 
 Connecting it
   •   to a PC creates a Recycled file for the Windows recycling 
 bin. I
   •   didn't see a way to make the drive read only.
   •    
   •   Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com Nov 15 10:56PM +0200
   •   
  
   •   ah hmmm... you must download rescue 3 provided link and 
 boot from rescue
   •   3 cd
   •    
   •   2009/11/15 Paul pper...@gmail.com
   •    
   •    
   •   -- 
   •   Baha Ata
   •    
   •   Jim McGee orb...@dslextreme.com Nov 15 02:39PM -0800
   •   
  
   •   
   •   On Nov 15, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Paul wrote:
   •    
   •to a PC creates a Recycled file for the Windows recycling 
 bin. I
   •didn't see a way to make the drive read only.
   •    
   •    
   •   Paul-
   •    
   •   Don't know if this helps
   •    
   •   http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2216434
   •    
  Topic: Single boop on startup
   •   Bill Christensen billc_li...@greenbuilder.com Nov 15 04:26PM 
 -0600
   •   
  
   •   At 12:36 AM + 11/15/09, Andy wrote:
   • I've got a G4 that's giving me startup problems.
   •   
   •    
   •   Problem solved. It was the RAM after all.
   •    
   •    
   •   -- 
   •   Bill Christensen
   •   http://greenbuilder.com/contact/
   •    
   •   Green Building Professionals Directory: 
 http://directory.greenbuilder.com
   •   Sustainable Building Calendar: 
 http://Calendar.SustainableSources.com
   •   Green Real Estate: http://www.greenbuilder.com/realestate/
   •   Straw Bale Registry: http://sbregistry.greenbuilder.com/
   •   Books/videos/software: http://bookstore.greenbuilder.com/
   •    
  Topic: Will a 1.6 GHz Processor Upgrade Allow my G4 to Run Flash?
   •   Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com Nov 15 08:58AM -0700
   •   
  
   •   On 11/14/09 8:21 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
   • The site requires an upgrade to Flash 9, which isn't 
 available for
   • my 64-bit Ubuntu system.
   •   Since development of flash has been retrogressive, would 
 installing 
   •   older versions of it, say on a Lombard, make for a pleasant web 
 video 
   •   viewing? Pyschometric Dan had provided the link to the older 
 versions 
   •   and I'm contemplating just installing an older version on a new 
   •   install...as I'd not be nuts to downgrade on a machine, given 
 how 
   •   horrible it is.
   •    
   •   Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net Nov 15 01:18PM -0800
   •   
  
   •   Nestamicky wrote:
   •install...as I'd not be nuts to downgrade on a machine, given 
 how 
   •horrible it is.
   •    
   •   It would except that an older version of Flash isn't going to 
 play to 
   •   many websites now. Most stuff out there tends to require the 
 latest or 
   •   perhaps the next to the latest.
   •    
   •   -- 
   •   Clark Martin
   •   Redwood City, CA, USA
   •   Macintosh / Internet Consulting
   •    
   •   I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway
   •    
  Topic: receipt reply required for each message
   •   Charles Lenington macso...@tds.net Nov 15 09:50AM -0600
   •   
  
   •   Is anyone else getting the acknowledgement message for all 
 messages that
   •    
   •   nestami...@gmail.com
   •    
   •   sends to the list?
   •    
   •   It's starting to get a little annoying. I have been ignoring 
 them but I 
   •   think I'll start replying. Maybe the hint will cause him change 
 his 
   •   email settings.
   •    
   •   Nestamicky