Re: PC 3200 400mhz RAM in 1ghz DP MDD. Will it work?
CL 2.5? Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jörg Duurkoop yaw...@gmail.com Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:08:49 To: G-Groupg3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: PC 3200 400mhz RAM in 1ghz DP MDD. Will it work? Hi Scott, PC3200 works but it has to be CL 2.5. Best regards, Jörg. On 26 mrt, 23:33, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 26, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Scotty wrote: I know all documentation I have found online says to use PC 2700 333mhz RAM with an MDD but I know some computers will just downclock the RAM if you put faster RAM into the machine. Is this the case with an MDD G4? I have a lot of PC3200 DDR RAM kicking around and I am wondering if it would work in an MDD G4 Power Mac. Low density sticks (found that out myself) other than that, the max will always be 2gb no matter what combo you use. Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT OT OT need a reason ?
Well I am glad others have had a better experience. My point was Simply that on any computer platform good benchmarks does not always mean an improvement of real world performance. Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -Original Message- From: James E. Therrault mjrtas...@gmail.com Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:00:39 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OT OT OT need a reason ? On Mar 22, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: But truth be told they have found they are much more impressed with the old G4s because unlike the new faster Intel macs the G4s are actually consistently reliable. Their Intel Macs are consistently crashing or malfunctioning in some other way. This is directly contrary to my experience managing a college with about 100-120 Macs in use, all but a handful of which are Intel macs of one form or another; none 'consistently crash'. Of course there are occasional issues, but most of those have been fixed by either starting in safe mode (to clear the caches) using Applejack (once per machine so far, not as a routine maintenance) or most often, just getting enough RAM in the systems. (people trying to run a bunch of Mac apps plus Windows in a VM need more than 2GB ram, or the system slows to a crawl on a regular basis.) It's been about two months since I switched from my trusty ol' Gigabit G4 to a late '09 Mac Mini. The previous owner had wiped the HD and reinstalled the original system s/w which was an early version of Snow Leopard and then upgraded it to the current 10.6.6. For about the first month, I did experience strange things like application crashes, sleep issues etc but now it seems as if the machine has learned my habits. It is now rock steady, runs 24/7 (much of it in sleep mode) without any problems. Safari which always gave me fits on the G4 is now amazing. Other apps as well and I am running Rosetta (sp?) for an older game, Mah Jong and it works just fine. Moving across a ten year technology bridge has been quite an impressive journey! Wow! JT -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fan Cowl on the MDD fw800?
I have one on my DA 733MHz. Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:49:26 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Fan Cowl on the MDD fw800? On the firewire 800 MDD, some models came with a CPU heatsink fan cowl or housing that was supposed to direct the air from the cpu fan to the heatsink more efficiently? not that I'm looking to buy one, just some curiosity here . has anybody ever seen the cowl/housing? and I would love to see a picture of it installed? I've been all over the net trying to find anything on it to no avail. Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G4 733mhz Digital Audio dilemma
For CCC can I use it by popping the HDD from the DA into the quicksilver and does it matter that the drives are different sizes. Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:10:14 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Power Mac G4 733mhz Digital Audio dilemma On Feb 10, 2011, at 9:43 PM, Scotty wrote: I just recently acqired a Digital Audio 733mhz for $25 (it needed ram and a HDD which I had on hand). So I have it up and running, but I am looking for advice for an OS. I have 10.2.8 installed currently. I was wondering if this very old version of OS X is really of any use anymore or whether I should maybe try a PPC Linux distro. I would like to add that I have a copy of leopard from my Quicksilver but if fails to install and Leopard Assist does not seem to work (I have actually never successfully gotten Leopard Assist to work on a non supported G4.). I had this issue with my old lampshade iMac 800mhz. Try a CCC version of Leopard ... I have a DA Dual 533 running Leopard. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Optical jumpers?
Master usually is the setting you want. Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:42:26 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Optical jumpers? When using an optical in an external enclosure, what should the jumpers be set to? Master, slave or cable select? Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: install osx 10.5
Yes. I am running 10.5 on a 933MHz QS Power Mac. Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Peter Martin petermartin...@gmail.com Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 05:41:53 To: G-Groupg3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: install osx 10.5 can i install osx 10.5 in my 933mhz ppc g4? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G4 800, OS X Panther vs Tiger
I never tried Panther but I used to have that exact same iMac and it worked wonderfully with Tiger 10.4. Tiger is 32 bit too so that should not matter. Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 20:31:08 To: G-Groupg3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iMac G4 800, OS X Panther vs Tiger Tiger have more features, but i find my G4 800 to be more responsive with 10.3 Panther, than with Tiger -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple inside?
I know they do but I still do not see how console systems relate to a PPC based mobile chip that went nowhere ultimately. It was not a vanilla Cell chip but was based on the same tech. If I remember correctly it was axed since nobody was looking to get into PPC based mobile devices to make it viable. Given the timing of its announcement it seemed like they just completed it to publicly snub Apple as odd as that sounds. Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 13:02:07 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple inside? On Oct 24, 2010, at 12:07 PM, daniel.stewart...@gmail.com wrote: Apple went with Intel in a premature attempt to boost laptop sales which was their second best seller after ipods. The Cell procssor would have been perfct for laptops which why the made one specifically for that purpose. I have no idea how an xbox has anything to do with PPC based laptop. The Xbox now runs on a variant of the Cell CPU. The Playstation 3 runs the Cell, too. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple inside?
Apple went with Intel in a premature attempt to boost laptop sales which was their second best seller after ipods. The Cell procssor would have been perfct for laptops which why the made one specifically for that purpose. I have no idea how an xbox has anything to do with PPC based laptop. It was a bad move. Of course they are top clients with Intel. Intel is not even close to being in the same league as Big Blue. Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:41:22 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple inside? On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: The thing is Motorola/IBM did deliver on a PPC solution that had a low energy power footprint drastically lower then anything Intel had and that Blew even the top G5s out of the water but it came a few months too late because Apple in their impatience jumped too soon and ended up with a mediocre solution all because they could not push back a release date on new laptops. (snip) The switch to Intel was a smart move because it enabled the Macs to dual boot Windoze and in turn it brought in a lot of sales. Also, I like the Intel CPUs because even the weakest ones were faster than the G5s. My 13 MBP has wy better benchmarks than the last Powermac G5. Apple moved to Intel because they finally had a partner big enough to produce large numbers of cutting edge CPUS and do so with Apple as a major customer in mind. Apple is now one of Intel's top 5 customers. They were never more than a sideline to Motorola or IBM. The Cell CPU wouldn't have made much difference as a laptop cpu; if it did, MS would have come out with a portable XBox a long time ago. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list