Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:48:14 PM UTC+1, Gary D. wrote: Thanks guys - you're the greatest. I now have enough info and things to try to keep me busy for a couple of days. I will report back, hopefully with success. More info: The TV has an Ethernet connection but it is too far away to string a cable. I've tried TV – WLAN – Router – Ethernet – Mini as well as TV – WLAN – Router – built-in Airport – Mini, all to no avail. I have assumed that both should work if I get things right. Is that correct? The TV is a Panasonic model TX-L37ETW5 (could be a specific German designation but there should be a US equivalent). Thanks again. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Thursday, January 3, 2013 5:35:15 PM UTC+1, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:48 AM, Gary D. g.de...@web.de javascript: wrote: Thanks guys - you're the greatest. I now have enough info and things to try to keep me busy for a couple of days. I will report back, hopefully with success. ... and the only issue is that the two devices don't yet communicate twith each other, which is a software issue, not a networking one. Without that software, neither device is offering any services on the network that the other one knows about, so you cannot 'see' them. Bruce Johnson I am happy to report that I have been successful. Bruce was right that it is a software problem and Kris steered me to Twonky Server which was exactly what I needed (says so in the manual but I was off on another tangent. Sometimes it pays to read the manual carefully - if only they were better written.) Thanks again everyone. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:33 AM, Gary D. g.dea...@web.de wrote: I am happy to report that I have been successful. Bruce was right that it is a software problem and Kris steered me to Twonky Server which was exactly what I needed (says so in the manual but I was off on another tangent. Sometimes it pays to read the manual carefully - if only they were better written.) Good news! Glad you got it working. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
Thanks guys - you're the greatest. I now have enough info and things to try to keep me busy for a couple of days. I will report back, hopefully with success. More info: The TV has an Ethernet connection but it is too far away to string a cable. I've tried TV – WLAN – Router – Ethernet – Mini as well as TV – WLAN – Router – built-in Airport – Mini, all to no avail. I have assumed that both should work if I get things right. Is that correct? The TV is a Panasonic model TX-L37ETW5 (could be a specific German designation but there should be a US equivalent). Thanks again. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On 03/01/2013 11:48, Gary D. g.dea...@web.de wrote: More info: The TV has an Ethernet connection but it is too far away to string a cable. I've tried TV WLAN Router Ethernet Mini as well as TV WLAN Router built-in Airport Mini, all to no avail. I have assumed that both should work if I get things right. Is that correct? I'm in the UK and we have ethernet adaptors which run the network from the router via the 240v mains electric wiring exiting through a socket on a mains plug adapter - no cable required for a wired connection...do they have these in the US? Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:48 AM, Gary D. g.dea...@web.de wrote: Thanks guys - you're the greatest. I now have enough info and things to try to keep me busy for a couple of days. I will report back, hopefully with success. More info: The TV has an Ethernet connection but it is too far away to string a cable. I've tried TV – WLAN – Router – Ethernet – Mini as well as TV – WLAN – Router – built-in Airport – Mini, all to no avail. I have assumed that both should work if I get things right. Is that correct? You need to connect to your wireless access point. I'm pretty sure the manual shows how to do that; unfortunately your intuition is right, it's a German model; the only manual I could find was in German. (Meanwhile here in the US we get manuals in English, French, Spanish, Chinese, German, and often Japanese, Portugese, Italian and Korean. It's quite disappointing sometimes to take this thick tome marked Instruction Manual and you think :Oh good, a decent manual for once! and it's the same thing in fifteen languages 8-P You have just a wireless router with some ethernet ports, correct? If you can get to the internet on the TV you're good insofar as network connections, I believe you said this at the beginning. After that it's just a matter of installing the software on the mini and things will work. AFAIK, all Wifi routers (apple's included) have the ability to show connected devices; you should be able to check whether your TV shows up on the router. If so, then you're good, and the only issue is that the two devices don't yet communicate twith each other, which is a software issue, not a networking one. Without that software, neither device is offering any services on the network that the other one knows about, so you cannot 'see' them. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 1:30:49 PM UTC+1, Clark Martin wrote: Wild guess but the TV probably wants to access a SMB (Samba) server (ie Windows). Try turning that on in the Mini's Sharing prefs. Tried SMB - didn't help. Thanks anyway. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Gary D. g.dea...@web.de wrote: On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 1:30:49 PM UTC+1, Clark Martin wrote: Wild guess but the TV probably wants to access a SMB (Samba) server (ie Windows). Try turning that on in the Mini's Sharing prefs. Tried SMB - didn't help. Thanks anyway. What model TV is it? I'll bet it's looking for a particular Windows-based service, but there may be ways to use a Mac with it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On 02.01.2013, at 17:01, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Gary D. g.dea...@web.de wrote: On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 1:30:49 PM UTC+1, Clark Martin wrote: Wild guess but the TV probably wants to access a SMB (Samba) server (ie Windows). Try turning that on in the Mini's Sharing prefs. Tried SMB - didn't help. Thanks anyway. What model TV is it? I'll bet it's looking for a particular Windows-based service, but there may be ways to use a Mac with it. Panasonic TX-L37ETW5 (may be a specific German designation but there should be a US equivalent). Would certainly appreciate finding a solution. Thanks Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Jan 2, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Gary D. wrote: Tried SMB - didn't help. Thanks anyway. Don't understand how you enter the Mini sharing password from the TV set? Does the TV have a keyboard? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On 02/01/2013 16:47, G. E. Dearth g.dea...@web.de wrote: What model TV is it? I'll bet it's looking for a particular Windows-based service, but there may be ways to use a Mac with it. Panasonic TX-L37ETW5 (may be a specific German designation but there should be a US equivalent). Would certainly appreciate finding a solution. Thanks Gary D. Shouldn't it just connect wirelessly to your router via dhcp using the wireless key - or wired if it has an ethernet port? Then it would be on the lan and accessible to the mac. Ignore me if this has been tried..late to the game. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Jan 2, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jan 2, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Gary D. wrote: Tried SMB - didn't help. Thanks anyway. Don't understand how you enter the Mini sharing password from the TV set? Does the TV have a keyboard? They have an on-screen keyboard you access via the remote, like an Apple TV. Downside, the sharing stuff seems to be something Apple doesn't support, DNLA: http://www.mikefletcher.co.uk/documents/Panasonic%20User%20Guide%20for%20DLNA.pdf There are, however, DNLA servers for the Mac :http://www.tvmobili.com/ http://www.avsforum.com/t/1415517/best-dlna-server-for-the-mac, http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/good-free-dlna-server-mac/, http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f10-music-servers/how-dlna-mac-os-x-server-13635/ The last link asks specifically about OS X server, but any of those will run just fine in OS X. TVMobili looks to be the simplest. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Jan 2, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Peter Devlin pdim...@mail.com wrote: On 02/01/2013 16:47, G. E. Dearth g.dea...@web.de wrote: What model TV is it? I'll bet it's looking for a particular Windows-based service, but there may be ways to use a Mac with it. Panasonic TX-L37ETW5 (may be a specific German designation but there should be a US equivalent). Would certainly appreciate finding a solution. Thanks Gary D. Shouldn't it just connect wirelessly to your router via dhcp using the wireless key - or wired if it has an ethernet port? Then it would be on the lan and accessible to the mac. Ignore me if this has been tried..late to the game. The OP connected it to the network, it just didn't see the Mac; it was, as I surmised, because it's lookg for something other than iTunes sharing. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Jan 2, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Downside, the sharing stuff seems to be something Apple doesn't support, DNLA: http://www.mikefletcher.co.uk/documents/Panasonic%20User%20Guide%20for%20DLNA.pdf This .pdf says the TV accesses the media via software from Twonky. There's Macintosh OS X Twonky software, so it would appear the solution would be to install Twonky for Mac on the Mini and then try accessing it from the TV. http://www.twonky.com/products/twonkymac/default.aspx -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On 02/01/2013 18:39, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: The OP connected it to the network, it just didn't see the Mac; it was, as I surmised, because it's lookg for something other than iTunes sharing. Doesn't it work the other way either? From the mac to the tv via connect to server - it seems it does have a wired ethernet port so that may be worth trying - mind - I'm old school and don't use wireless anywaya stick in the mud old mac git. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Access Problem from TV to Mini
Pretty far OT but maybe someone can give me a tip to get me off dead center. I have a new Panasonic TV that is WLAN capable with which I have internet access (YouTube, etc.) but I have not been able to access my Mac Mini running 10.6.8 so that I can display my pictures, video clips, etc. on the TV. I have turned on sharing, set sharing using both AFP and FTP, marked folders and volumes for sharing and turned off the firewall but I still can't get connected. Entering the IP address given by the mini for access in the TV bowser brings up an can't access error message. Any ideas about what I am doing wrong or haven't taken into consideration. Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Gary D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Jan 1, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Gary D. wrote: Pretty far OT but maybe someone can give me a tip to get me off dead center. I have a new Panasonic TV that is WLAN capable with which I have internet access (YouTube, etc.) but I have not been able to access my Mac Mini running 10.6.8 so that I can display my pictures, video clips, etc. on the TV. I have turned on sharing, set sharing using both AFP and FTP, marked folders and volumes for sharing and turned off the firewall but I still can't get connected. Entering the IP address given by the mini for access in the TV bowser brings up an can't access error message. Any ideas about what I am doing wrong or haven't taken into consideration. Any tips would be much appreciated. Wild guess but the TV probably wants to access a SMB (Samba) server (ie Windows). Try turning that on in the Mini's Sharing prefs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Jan 1, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Clark Martin wrote: On Jan 1, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Gary D. wrote: Pretty far OT but maybe someone can give me a tip to get me off dead center. I have a new Panasonic TV that is WLAN capable with which I have internet access (YouTube, etc.) but I have not been able to access my Mac Mini running 10.6.8 so that I can display my pictures, video clips, etc. on the TV. I have turned on sharing, set sharing using both AFP and FTP, marked folders and volumes for sharing and turned off the firewall but I still can't get connected. Entering the IP address given by the mini for access in the TV bowser brings up an can't access error message. Any ideas about what I am doing wrong or haven't taken into consideration. Any tips would be much appreciated. Wild guess but the TV probably wants to access a SMB (Samba) server (ie Windows). Try turning that on in the Mini's Sharing prefs. I'm looking in my Sharing Prefs for 10.6.8 on my Mac. Where do I find something like SMB? I also have a smart TV that won't connect to my computer. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
On Jan 1, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Dale Hoffman wrote: I'm looking in my Sharing Prefs for 10.6.8 on my Mac. Where do I find something like SMB? I also have a smart TV that won't connect to my computer. This is in the option setting in the File Sharing section, It may say SMB or it may just say Windows; I don't have a 10.6 system to hand to check. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Access Problem from TV to Mini
Bruce, Thanks. I forgot you need to select the service (File Sharing) in order for its specific options to appear. Dale On Jan 1, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 1, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Dale Hoffman wrote: I'm looking in my Sharing Prefs for 10.6.8 on my Mac. Where do I find something like SMB? I also have a smart TV that won't connect to my computer. This is in the option setting in the File Sharing section, It may say SMB or it may just say Windows; I don't have a 10.6 system to hand to check. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
