Re: Attatch PDF to mail PITA

2010-07-10 Thread Gary D.
On Jul 9, 5:54 pm, john CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote:

 can stop this is to Zip it. I'm sure I have a setting or something  
 wrong. Any one have the same problem?


I have also had some strange things happening recently - maybe an
update has screwed thing up. Have you tried right click or control
click on the attachment? I seem to recall that there is a selection
for sending an attachment either as an icon or in-line.

I am no longer able to enter an attachment onto a blank page. There
always needs to be at least an entry on the page before an attachment
is accepted. The entry can then be deleted. Strange - I don't recall
this being the case in the past.

Hope this helps.

Gary

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Re: Attatch PDF to mail PITA

2010-07-10 Thread John Carmonne

On Jul 10, 2010, at 7:21 AM, Gary D. wrote:

 On Jul 9, 5:54 pm, john CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 can stop this is to Zip it. I'm sure I have a setting or something  
 wrong. Any one have the same problem?
 
 
 I have also had some strange things happening recently - maybe an
 update has screwed thing up. Have you tried right click or control
 click on the attachment? I seem to recall that there is a selection
 for sending an attachment either as an icon or in-line.
 
 I am no longer able to enter an attachment onto a blank page. There
 always needs to be at least an entry on the page before an attachment
 is accepted. The entry can then be deleted. Strange - I don't recall
 this being the case in the past.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Gary
 
I do believe these problems are from recent updates, I just haven't noticed 
till now. I want only the icon not the open PDF, and yes it works with two 
pages but that takes time and thought. Right click gives me a ZIP.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP



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Re: Attatch PDF to mail PITA

2010-07-10 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Jul 10, 2010, at 7:50 AM, John Carmonne wrote:

 I do believe these problems are from recent updates, I just haven't noticed 
 till now. I want only the icon not the open PDF, and yes it works with two 
 pages but that takes time and thought. Right click gives me a ZIP.

Just be aware that .zip files are blocked by many ISP's. We block 'em because 
they're almost always malware these days.

Again, I point out that the behavior you are seeing is ONLY HAPPENING in YOUR 
email client. You have no control over how other's email clients display 
attachments.

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Attatch PDF to mail PITA

2010-07-09 Thread john CARMONNE

Hi All

As of late I've been having trouble attaching PDF files to an Email,  
When I attach or drag a PDF to the message it blows open on the page.  
I don't want that, I want the file to be in PDF form. The only way I  
can stop this is to Zip it. I'm sure I have a setting or something  
wrong. Any one have the same problem?


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my TiBook 500




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Re: Attatch PDF to mail PITA

2010-07-09 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Jul 9, 2010, at 8:54 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:

 Hi All
 
 As of late I've been having trouble attaching PDF files to an Email, When I 
 attach or drag a PDF to the message it blows open on the page. I don't want 
 that, I want the file to be in PDF form. The only way I can stop this is to 
 Zip it. I'm sure I have a setting or something wrong. Any one have the same 
 problem?

This is normal, it's still attached as a PDF, it's  just that PDF's are one of 
the files that Mail normally shows inline in the message, like pictures.

just attach and send.

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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: Attatch PDF to mail PITA

2010-07-09 Thread Len Gerstel


On Jul 9, 2010, at 11:54 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:


Hi All

As of late I've been having trouble attaching PDF files to an  
Email, When I attach or drag a PDF to the message it blows open on  
the page. I don't want that, I want the file to be in PDF form. The  
only way I can stop this is to Zip it. I'm sure I have a setting or  
something wrong. Any one have the same problem?


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my TiBook 500


Mail displays 1 page pdfs instead of the icon in the outgoing  
messages because it can and it thinks you want to see it. It is still  
sending it as an attached pdf.


I send many multi-pdf emails. Frequently 1 multipage pdf and a few  
single page ones in the same email. Mail displays all the single page  
ones in the outgoing email and a pdf icon for the multipage. The  
recipient still gets them all as pdfs.


One of those features that fails Bruce Tognazzini's user interface  
tests (asktog.com).


Len

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Re: Attatch PDF to mail PITA

2010-07-09 Thread john CARMONNE


On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:



On Jul 9, 2010, at 11:54 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:


Hi All

As of late I've been having trouble attaching PDF files to an  
Email, When I attach or drag a PDF to the message it blows open on  
the page. I don't want that, I want the file to be in PDF form.  
The only way I can stop this is to Zip it. I'm sure I have a  
setting or something wrong. Any one have the same problem?


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my TiBook 500


Mail displays 1 page pdfs instead of the icon in the outgoing  
messages because it can and it thinks you want to see it. It is  
still sending it as an attached pdf.


I send many multi-pdf emails. Frequently 1 multipage pdf and a few  
single page ones in the same email. Mail displays all the single  
page ones in the outgoing email and a pdf icon for the multipage.  
The recipient still gets them all as pdfs.



 I have tried sending them to myself and as the recipient when I  
open the mail the PDF blows open. I don't want every one in the next  
cubicle to see the PDF until the recipient does. This seems to be a  
new occurrence. Also I think it's mostly on my MBP 10.6.4.



John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my TiBook 500




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Re: Attatch PDF to mail PITA

2010-07-09 Thread Len Gerstel


On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:23 PM, john CARMONNE wrote:



On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:



On Jul 9, 2010, at 11:54 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:


Hi All

As of late I've been having trouble attaching PDF files to an  
Email, When I attach or drag a PDF to the message it blows open  
on the page. I don't want that, I want the file to be in PDF  
form. The only way I can stop this is to Zip it. I'm sure I have  
a setting or something wrong. Any one have the same problem?


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my TiBook 500


Mail displays 1 page pdfs instead of the icon in the outgoing  
messages because it can and it thinks you want to see it. It is  
still sending it as an attached pdf.


I send many multi-pdf emails. Frequently 1 multipage pdf and a few  
single page ones in the same email. Mail displays all the single  
page ones in the outgoing email and a pdf icon for the multipage.  
The recipient still gets them all as pdfs.



 I have tried sending them to myself and as the recipient when I  
open the mail the PDF blows open. I don't want every one in the  
next cubicle to see the PDF until the recipient does. This seems to  
be a new occurrence. Also I think it's mostly on my MBP 10.6.4.


It is the default Mail way of doing things and I can not see a way to  
turn it off in 10.4. The only kludge I can think of is to add a bunch  
of blank lines at the end to make it a 2 page pdf. Then it will show  
up as the icon.


That will at least save you the zip kludge workaround.

Len


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Re: Attatch PDF to mail PITA

2010-07-09 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:23 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:

 
 I have tried sending them to myself and as the recipient when I open the mail 
 the PDF blows open.


It doesn't Blow Open, any more than jpegs do. Check the attachments list, it 
will show them all. And if you drag that pdf from the mail message to the 
desktop you'll see that it saves it as the pdf file.

 I don't want every one in the next cubicle to see the PDF until the recipient 
 does. This seems to be a new occurrence. Also I think it's mostly on my MBP 
 10.6.4.

I recall seeing PDF's in earlier versions of Mail, but it may be a 10.6 thing.

In any case you have NO CONTROL WHATSOEVER over what is seen on the recipient's 
mail client, so the fact that you can see it when you open the email has no 
bearing on whether the recipient can.

(Also, as far as sending .zip files, be away that a LOT of companies block .zip 
attachments entirely; they're mainly used these days to send malware. We block 
'em entirely.)

As Len said, OS X displays one-page PDF's automatically in Mail. If you want to 
absolutely ensure that the recipient doesn't have them open 'prematurely', make 
a pdf of a blank page (open Text Edit, don't type anything, and go to print, 
click on PDF  Save as pdf.

Then open your pdf to send in Preview, enable to thumbnail view, and drag your 
one-page blank pdf into the thumbnail view after the content of your pdf. Save 
the resulting two-page pdf and send.

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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: Attatch PDF to mail PITA

2010-07-09 Thread Len Gerstel



On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Jul 9, 2010, at 9:23 AM, john CARMONNE wrote:




I don't want every one in the next cubicle to see the PDF until  
the recipient does. This seems to be a new occurrence. Also I  
think it's mostly on my MBP 10.6.4.


I recall seeing PDF's in earlier versions of Mail, but it may be a  
10.6 thing.


10.4 and 10.5 also. Don't remember earlier.

Len

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