Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
2009/7/8 Chance Reecher cnrtechh...@gmail.com: I recently set up an old 350mhz BW G3 tower as a Mac OS X server running 10.4.11. I've been having an issue with its ethernet connectivity. Out of the blue it completely drops it's network connection. I can't see it in Finder, and can't ping it with network utility. However, the link light on my network switch is still lit up, meaning the connection is still active. I can only access it again after a restart. It happens regardless of whether I use the built-in ethernet or a PCI ethernet card. Any idea what could be causing this, or how I can fix it? The firmware on it is up to date, as is 10.4 Server. Thanks, Chance R. I've just put OS X Server on my BW, so I will let you know if I see similar problems. How did you get it to install, though? I had to buy a G4 upgrade to get the boot DVD to get past the 1st screen. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Liam Proven wrote: I recently set up an old 350mhz BW G3 tower as a Mac OS X server running 10.4.11. I've been having an issue with its ethernet connectivity. Out of the blue it completely drops it's network connection. I can't see it in Finder, and can't ping it with network utility. However, the link light on my network switch is still lit up, meaning the connection is still active. I can only access it again after a restart. It happens regardless of whether I use the built-in ethernet or a PCI ethernet card. Any idea what could be causing this, or how I can fix it? The firmware on it is up to date, as is 10.4 Server. I've just put OS X Server on my BW, so I will let you know if I see similar problems. How did you get it to install, though? I had to buy a G4 upgrade to get the boot DVD to get past the 1st screen. I avoided problems with the on-mobo E-net by installing a R8169 gigabit E-net PCI card. These have been supported as native to MacOS from almost Day One. There is a OS 9 driver available from the manufacturer, but no driver is required for 10.3 or later as this chip is natively supported. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
All I had to do to install 10.4 server was swap my CD-ROM with a DVD-ROM, and put in 512MB of RAM. The DVD booted and installed fine. Is your firmware up to date on your BW? That might have kept 10.4 from installing. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Liam Provenlpro...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/8 Chance Reecher cnrtechh...@gmail.com: I recently set up an old 350mhz BW G3 tower as a Mac OS X server running 10.4.11. I've been having an issue with its ethernet connectivity. Out of the blue it completely drops it's network connection. I can't see it in Finder, and can't ping it with network utility. However, the link light on my network switch is still lit up, meaning the connection is still active. I can only access it again after a restart. It happens regardless of whether I use the built-in ethernet or a PCI ethernet card. Any idea what could be causing this, or how I can fix it? The firmware on it is up to date, as is 10.4 Server. Thanks, Chance R. I've just put OS X Server on my BW, so I will let you know if I see similar problems. How did you get it to install, though? I had to buy a G4 upgrade to get the boot DVD to get past the 1st screen. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
I too tried a PCI card, a R8139. It drops the connection just like the built-in ethernet. I'm going to see if I can find another PCI ethernet card to try. I avoided problems with the on-mobo E-net by installing a R8169 gigabit E-net PCI card. These have been supported as native to MacOS from almost Day One. There is a OS 9 driver available from the manufacturer, but no driver is required for 10.3 or later as this chip is natively supported. -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
2009/7/8 Chance Reecher cnrtechh...@gmail.com: All I had to do to install 10.4 server was swap my CD-ROM with a DVD-ROM, and put in 512MB of RAM. The DVD booted and installed fine. Is your firmware up to date on your BW? That might have kept 10.4 from installing. Hmmm. Interesting. What version of OS X Server is on your DVD? Mine is the 10.4.7 Universal DVD. This requires a G4 or better. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: I too tried a PCI card, a R8139. It drops the connection just like the built-in ethernet. I'm going to see if I can find another PCI ethernet card to try. The 8139 was the worst E-net card made by Realtek, and the one which almost sunk the company. The 8169 is now the gold standard as Apple adopted it as its gigabit E-net solution. Many Intel boards have an R1000 gigabit E-net solution, but this, too, has a few problems. Dropped connections, slow to connect to DHCP and poor Bonjour compatibility are issues with a number of add-on and on-mobo chips, including R8139 and R1000. These issues do not exist in the R8169. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
My server DVD is the original 10.4.1 PPC only disc. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Liam Provenlpro...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/8 Chance Reecher cnrtechh...@gmail.com: All I had to do to install 10.4 server was swap my CD-ROM with a DVD-ROM, and put in 512MB of RAM. The DVD booted and installed fine. Is your firmware up to date on your BW? That might have kept 10.4 from installing. Hmmm. Interesting. What version of OS X Server is on your DVD? Mine is the 10.4.7 Universal DVD. This requires a G4 or better. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
Do you know of any good places to acquire a R8169 for cheap? On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:40 AM, PeterHpeterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: I too tried a PCI card, a R8139. It drops the connection just like the built-in ethernet. I'm going to see if I can find another PCI ethernet card to try. The 8139 was the worst E-net card made by Realtek, and the one which almost sunk the company. The 8169 is now the gold standard as Apple adopted it as its gigabit E-net solution. Many Intel boards have an R1000 gigabit E-net solution, but this, too, has a few problems. Dropped connections, slow to connect to DHCP and poor Bonjour compatibility are issues with a number of add-on and on-mobo chips, including R8139 and R1000. These issues do not exist in the R8169. -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: I too tried a PCI card, a R8139. It drops the connection just like the built-in ethernet. I'm going to see if I can find another PCI ethernet card to try. I'd look farther upstream, then, at your router or switch. Are you getting TCP/IP errors in the log? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
Well, I've switched ports on the switch (3Com 4400) and nothing's changed. I don't have this problem on any other Mac on my network. Thanks for suggesting the log, I didn't think to look there. Chance On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bruce Johnsonjohn...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: I too tried a PCI card, a R8139. It drops the connection just like the built-in ethernet. I'm going to see if I can find another PCI ethernet card to try. I'd look farther upstream, then, at your router or switch. Are you getting TCP/IP errors in the log? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
Chance Reecher wrote: I recently set up an old 350mhz BW G3 tower as a Mac OS X server running 10.4.11. I've been having an issue with its ethernet connectivity. Out of the blue it completely drops it's network connection. I can't see it in Finder, and can't ping it with network utility. However, the link light on my network switch is still lit up, meaning the connection is still active. I can only access it again after a restart. It happens regardless of whether I use the built-in ethernet or a PCI ethernet card. Any idea what could be causing this, or how I can fix it? The firmware on it is up to date, as is 10.4 Server. Thanks, Chance R. Can the server see the rest of the network? How is it configured, DHCP or manually? If it is DHCP, try creating a second network Location and configure it manually. After it drops off, run ifconfig in Terminal and paste the results here. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
Yes, when the server's connection works, and I can remote desktop into it, it sees other macs on the network. It is configured manually, all my computers are. I guess I'll hook up a monitor and keyboard/mouse the next time it drops off. Can the server see the rest of the network? How is it configured, DHCP or manually? If it is DHCP, try creating a second network Location and configure it manually. After it drops off, run ifconfig in Terminal and paste the results here. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
Well, when I got home today it was down, so I hooked up a monitor and keyboard. Oddly, nothing showed up on the monitor, even when I moved the mouse. I had to restart it. Well, here's what showed up in ifconfig after I restarted: ReecherServer:~ admin$ ifconfig lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 gif0: flags=8010POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST mtu 1280 stf0: flags=0 mtu 1280 en0: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:50:e4:a0:34:38 media: autoselect (none) status: inactive supported media: none autoselect 10baseT/UTP half-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex 100baseTX half-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex en1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::200:21ff:fee2:9e01%en1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet 192.168.1.9 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:00:21:e2:9e:01 media: autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active supported media: autoselect 10baseT/UTP half-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex 100baseTX half-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex fw0: flags=8822BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1006 lladdr 00:50:e4:ff:fe:a0:34:38 media: autoselect full-duplex status: inactive supported media: autoselect full-duplex fw1: flags=8822BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 2030 lladdr 00:30:bd:00:00:00:14:13 media: autoselect full-duplex status: inactive supported media: autoselect full-duplex en0 is the built in ethernet, en1 is the PCI, fw0 is the built in firewire, and fw1 is my PCI firewire card. After it drops off, run ifconfig in Terminal and paste the results here. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
First off, the router. I had it set to assign DHCP starting at 192.168.1.33, and I had manually assigned 192.168.1.9 to my server. I don't think that would cause a problem, but I changed it to start the DHCP pool at 192.168.1.7 (I have wireless access points and switches in the .1-.6 range) I checked my system log, and saw this: Jul 6 18:13:28 localhost kernel[0]: BMacEnet: Ethernet address 00:50:e4:a0:34:38 Jul 6 18:13:34 localhost kernel[0]: BMacEnet::monitorLinkStatus: Link down a number of times, which is the crashing of the built-in ethernet I also noticed this: Jul 7 18:31:53 ReecherServer servermgrd: servermgr_dns: no name available via DNS for 192.168.1.9 Jul 7 18:31:53 ReecherServer servermgrd: servermgr_dns: no hostname set and unable to detect via DNS, services may not function properly - use changeip to repair Jul 7 18:42:25 ReecherServer crashdump[851]: mcxd crashed Jul 7 18:42:27 ReecherServer crashdump[851]: crash report written to: /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/mcxd.crash.log which judging by the system restart 12 minutes later... Jul 7 18:54:02 localhost kernel[0]: standard timeslicing quantum is 1 us Jul 7 18:54:01 localhost memberd[45]: memberd starting up Jul 7 18:54:02 localhost kernel[0]: vm_page_bootstrap: 93668 free pages was another loss of connection. I'd look farther upstream, then, at your router or switch. Are you getting TCP/IP errors in the log? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
Chance Reecher wrote: Well, when I got home today it was down, so I hooked up a monitor and keyboard. Oddly, nothing showed up on the monitor, even when I moved the mouse. I had to restart it. Well, here's what showed up in ifconfig after I restarted: ReecherServer:~ admin$ ifconfig lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 gif0: flags=8010POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST mtu 1280 stf0: flags=0 mtu 1280 en0: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:50:e4:a0:34:38 media: autoselect (none) status: inactive supported media: none autoselect 10baseT/UTP half-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex 100baseTX half-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex en1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::200:21ff:fee2:9e01%en1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet 192.168.1.9 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:00:21:e2:9e:01 media: autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active supported media: autoselect 10baseT/UTP half-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex 100baseTX half-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex fw0: flags=8822BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1006 lladdr 00:50:e4:ff:fe:a0:34:38 media: autoselect full-duplex status: inactive supported media: autoselect full-duplex fw1: flags=8822BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 2030 lladdr 00:30:bd:00:00:00:14:13 media: autoselect full-duplex status: inactive supported media: autoselect full-duplex en0 is the built in ethernet, en1 is the PCI, fw0 is the built in firewire, and fw1 is my PCI firewire card. After it drops off, run ifconfig in Terminal and paste the results here. I take it the cable was plugged into the PCI card. Was the network connection working at the time? We need to see this info when it isn't working. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
This was when it was working, since I can't get the info when it isn't. I'll see if the monitor works the next time it drops. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Clark Martincm...@sonic.net wrote: Chance Reecher wrote: Well, when I got home today it was down, so I hooked up a monitor and keyboard. Oddly, nothing showed up on the monitor, even when I moved the mouse. I had to restart it. Well, here's what showed up in ifconfig after I restarted: ReecherServer:~ admin$ ifconfig lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 gif0: flags=8010POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST mtu 1280 stf0: flags=0 mtu 1280 en0: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:50:e4:a0:34:38 media: autoselect (none) status: inactive supported media: none autoselect 10baseT/UTP half-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex 100baseTX half-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex en1: flags=8863UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::200:21ff:fee2:9e01%en1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet 192.168.1.9 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:00:21:e2:9e:01 media: autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active supported media: autoselect 10baseT/UTP half-duplex 10baseT/UTP full-duplex 100baseTX half-duplex 100baseTX full-duplex fw0: flags=8822BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1006 lladdr 00:50:e4:ff:fe:a0:34:38 media: autoselect full-duplex status: inactive supported media: autoselect full-duplex fw1: flags=8822BROADCAST,SMART,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 2030 lladdr 00:30:bd:00:00:00:14:13 media: autoselect full-duplex status: inactive supported media: autoselect full-duplex en0 is the built in ethernet, en1 is the PCI, fw0 is the built in firewire, and fw1 is my PCI firewire card. After it drops off, run ifconfig in Terminal and paste the results here. I take it the cable was plugged into the PCI card. Was the network connection working at the time? We need to see this info when it isn't working. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
On Jul 8, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: First off, the router. I had it set to assign DHCP starting at 192.168.1.33, and I had manually assigned 192.168.1.9 to my server. I don't think that would cause a problem, but I changed it to start the DHCP pool at 192.168.1.7 (I have wireless access points and switches in the .1-.6 range) That's a bad idea, unless you're specifying on the router that 192.168.1.9 is fixed and assigned to the server. Never overlap DHCP and fixed address ranges without appropriately telling the DHCP server. I checked my system log, and saw this: Jul 6 18:13:28 localhost kernel[0]: BMacEnet: Ethernet address 00:50:e4:a0:34:38 Jul 6 18:13:34 localhost kernel[0]: BMacEnet::monitorLinkStatus: Link down a number of times, which is the crashing of the built-in ethernet I also noticed this: Jul 7 18:31:53 ReecherServer servermgrd: servermgr_dns: no name available via DNS for 192.168.1.9 Jul 7 18:31:53 ReecherServer servermgrd: servermgr_dns: no hostname set and unable to detect via DNS, services may not function properly - use changeip to repair This means that the local host name isn't set, and it cannot resolve itself via DNS. Set the host name, I'm not sure where it is in OS X Server, but in OS X it's set in the Sharing control panel. Jul 7 18:42:25 ReecherServer crashdump[851]: mcxd crashed mcxd has something to do with Open Directory, and it's crashing because it can't find a DNS server, I'll bet. OS X server REALLY doesn't like not being connected to a network. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Bruce Johnsonjohn...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jul 8, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: First off, the router. I had it set to assign DHCP starting at 192.168.1.33, and I had manually assigned 192.168.1.9 to my server. I don't think that would cause a problem, but I changed it to start the DHCP pool at 192.168.1.7 (I have wireless access points and switches in the .1-.6 range) That's a bad idea, unless you're specifying on the router that 192.168.1.9 is fixed and assigned to the server. Never overlap DHCP and fixed address ranges without appropriately telling the DHCP server. It is. I checked my system log, and saw this: Jul 6 18:13:28 localhost kernel[0]: BMacEnet: Ethernet address 00:50:e4:a0:34:38 Jul 6 18:13:34 localhost kernel[0]: BMacEnet::monitorLinkStatus: Link down a number of times, which is the crashing of the built-in ethernet I also noticed this: Jul 7 18:31:53 ReecherServer servermgrd: servermgr_dns: no name available via DNS for 192.168.1.9 Jul 7 18:31:53 ReecherServer servermgrd: servermgr_dns: no hostname set and unable to detect via DNS, services may not function properly - use changeip to repair This means that the local host name isn't set, and it cannot resolve itself via DNS. Set the host name, I'm not sure where it is in OS X Server, but in OS X it's set in the Sharing control panel. It does have a local hostname, ReecherServer.local Jul 7 18:42:25 ReecherServer crashdump[851]: mcxd crashed mcxd has something to do with Open Directory, and it's crashing because it can't find a DNS server, I'll bet. OS X server REALLY doesn't like not being connected to a network. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Blue and White G3 Ethernet problems
Just an update, after fixing the DHCP range in my router, the G3 has not lost connection all evening. I think it might be fixed! Chance --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
