Re: Buy/Sell lists?
At 3:59 AM -0700 9/30/08, Dan the listmom wrote: If you're not willing to share your name and location, there are other places to post your items, but to protect members of LEM Swap, we require this information. My zip code *is* my location. And I don't see how asking for full name/zip is going to weed out bad apples. If someone wants to be a crooked buyer/seller, they are going to do it no matter what. I am not trying to be ornery, I just find it an odd request. I had always found the LEM Swap to be a great list back in the day and of course always shared full contact info with the other party once we made an agreement. My .02, I guess if it works for you, it works for you. I also noted to the nanny that rejected my posting, that another came through that day with no info, so there is a consistency issue as well. Of course, I received no response to *that*! ;-) Thanks, Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
On 9/30/08, diane wrote: My zip code *is* my location. And I don't see how asking for full name/zip is going to weed out bad apples. If someone wants to be a crooked buyer/seller, they are going to do it no matter what. Same argument I presented a long while back. The logic seems to go over their heads. Just like using top vs bottom posting. These lists were some of the few still insisting that bottom posting was the required norm in the face of obvious evidence to the contrary. Facts be damned! Will a 1.25 DP work in a machine currently using a 1.0 SP? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
On Sep 30, 2008, at 10:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/30/08, diane wrote: My zip code *is* my location. And I don't see how asking for full name/zip is going to weed out bad apples. If someone wants to be a crooked buyer/seller, they are going to do it no matter what. Same argument I presented a long while back. And it's just as wrong now, as then. see my previous reply in this thread. Chuck D. The logic seems to go over their heads. Just like using top vs bottom posting. These lists were some of the few still insisting that bottom posting was the required norm in the face of obvious evidence to the contrary. Facts be damned! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
Charles Davis wrote: On Sep 30, 2008, at 7:40 AM, diane wrote: At 3:59 AM -0700 9/30/08, Dan the listmom wrote: If you're not willing to share your name and location, there are other places to post your items, but to protect members of LEM Swap, we require this information. My zip code *is* my location. Unless your Zip code includes the Optional +4 information, your Zip code is an area of possible locations. Uh, the plus four is much more specific as to location than a simple city, state. And I don't see how asking for full name/zip is going to weed out bad apples. If someone wants to be a crooked buyer/seller, they are going to do it no matter what. You are right about the 'Bad apples'. But the aim wasn't at preventing them from existing, it is to ease the pain involved in the 'nannies' trying to be helpful when referring things to a local law enforcement entity. I am not trying to be ornery, I just find it an odd request. I had always found the LEM Swap to be a great list back in the day and of course always shared full contact info with the other party once we made an agreement. My .02, I guess if it works for you, it works for you. I also noted to the nanny that rejected my posting, that another came through that day with no info, so there is a consistency issue as well. An YOU never slip up on anything, right? And there are those that hate the truth, right? JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
On Sep 30, 2008, at 11:49 AM, James E. Therrault wrote: Charles Davis wrote: On Sep 30, 2008, at 7:40 AM, diane wrote: At 3:59 AM -0700 9/30/08, Dan the listmom wrote: If you're not willing to share your name and location, there are other places to post your items, but to protect members of LEM Swap, we require this information. My zip code *is* my location. Unless your Zip code includes the Optional +4 information, your Zip code is an area of possible locations. Uh, the plus four is much more specific as to location than a simple city, state. Right!! Isn't that the implication from what was said? And I don't see how asking for full name/zip is going to weed out bad apples. If someone wants to be a crooked buyer/seller, they are going to do it no matter what. You are right about the 'Bad apples'. But the aim wasn't at preventing them from existing, it is to ease the pain involved in the 'nannies' trying to be helpful when referring things to a local law enforcement entity. I am not trying to be ornery, I just find it an odd request. I had always found the LEM Swap to be a great list back in the day and of course always shared full contact info with the other party once we made an agreement. My .02, I guess if it works for you, it works for you. I also noted to the nanny that rejected my posting, that another came through that day with no info, so there is a consistency issue as well. An YOU never slip up on anything, right? And there are those that hate the truth, right? JT Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
Folks, This subject is now closed. It has nothing to do with the original question, which barely had anything to do with G3-5 Macs. If you wish to discuss Swap list rules, feel free to discuss them on the lemlists list or email Dan directly. Len Gerstel [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Nanny G3-5 and PCI Mac lists --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Folks, This subject is now closed. It has nothing to do with the original question, which barely had anything to do with G3-5 Macs. If you wish to discuss Swap list rules, feel free to discuss them on the lemlists list or email Dan directly. Len Gerstel [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Nanny G3-5 and PCI Mac lists HOORAY!!! John Callahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.ยจ --Will Rogers extreme positive = (ybya2) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
Charles Davis wrote: On Sep 30, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:29 AM -0400 9/30/2008, Charles Davis wrote: My zip code *is* my location. Unless your Zip code includes the Optional +4 information, your Zip code is an area of possible locations. Sorry, but unless you have a totally generic name, that's just not the case. With your full name and a 5 digit zip, you can be nailed to specific address. Funny thing about address/phone books. No, you have found something that you THINK is correct. May, or may not be. The Zip Code is used by the Post Office, to get things 'close' --- The local carrier is the one with the final distribution problem. Once again, the plus four can be very specific especially if you hold a PO box. You're comparing apples 'n oranges. JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
Isn't that the implication from what was said? NO. The original poster objected to the city, state info but was comfortable with a simple zip code. Anything further is to specific. Yep. Including my last name. Which is not all that common. Hell, even without my zip code I can be found. My ebay profile lists New England. Anyway, before this is completely locked down, my original question - are there any other Mac buy/sell lists other than Craigslist/ebay? Thanks! Diane in New England breathlessly awaiting her SATA card, 2 500gb hard drives and a 5 port USB card to put in her G4 1.42DP ps - I never thought my simple query would get so out of hand. It's Dan's list and he can do what he wants with it, as I do with my lists. I also have that right not to like it. :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
This is one of the odder posts I've seen on this list. Many of the posts seem missing so not sure what is going on. But will answer the queestion I see. Dan's Lowend Mac Swap List is a great place to sell and put wanted requests. It seems safer friendlier then most other online sites. It is also to be found @ Google Groups . Info to be found at : http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html Hope this answers your question. Will S On Sep 30, 11:48 am, diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that the implication from what was said? NO. The original poster objected to the city, state info but was comfortable with a simple zip code. Anything further is to specific. Yep. Including my last name. Which is not all that common. Hell, even without my zip code I can be found. My ebay profile lists New England. Anyway, before this is completely locked down, my original question - are there any other Mac buy/sell lists other than Craigslist/ebay? Thanks! Diane in New England breathlessly awaiting her SATA card, 2 500gb hard drives and a 5 port USB card to put in her G4 1.42DP ps - I never thought my simple query would get so out of hand. It's Dan's list and he can do what he wants with it, as I do with my lists. I also have that right not to like it. :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
PS Sending a private answer in case the post gets deleted . It seems clear much of the post has been deleted .I just sold a car on Craigs list. What a nightmare of conartists . I've never seen anything like it. Spring early summer I had no such problems . Perhaps the economy is having an effect on this. Best of luck List nanny's have in the past over reacted to some posts in my opinion . However that hasn't happened in a long time . I read the posts online , so haven't seen what maybe the problem posts. So have no idea of the nature of the posts nor if they should have been deleted. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
My 2 posts were removed by me . I didn't realized the thread was closed and posted in error. Sorry List Nanny Dan . --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Buy/Sell lists?
I rejoined the LEM Swaplist which I fell off of when it migrated to Google to sell a few things. Somewhere along the lines they now require a full name and city/state when posting to the list. I listed my zip code which is what I used to do, but my message was rejected since I did not follow the rules. Are there any other lists that are maybe a little more private? I do not feel like posting that much info to over 3000 people on the off chance that someone may be interested in my obscure items. And yes, I am full aware there are many other ways to find my full name and address, and that there have been for many many years. Thanks, Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
On 9/29/08, diane wrote: I rejoined the LEM Swaplist Somewhere along the lines they now require a full name and city/state when posting to the list I do not feel like posting that much info to over 3000 people on the off chance that someone may be interested in my obscure items. Give a phony name and street address. If someone expresses interest, you can straighten it out with them at that time. Half the sellers are doing it this way. The reason the stupid rule came into being was so that persons could decide if the seller and buyer were geographically near. A ZIP code was all that was ever necessary but administrative pride got in the way of good sense. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
At 6:50 PM -0400 9/29/2008, diane wrote: Are there any other lists that are maybe a little more private? I do not feel like posting that much info to over 3000 people on the off chance that someone may be interested in my obscure items. 3000? You're off by several magnitudes. Google Groups postings are full indexed by Google. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Buy/Sell lists?
Give a phony name and street address. If someone expresses interest, you can straighten it out with them at that time. Half the sellers are doing it this way. Speaking as a Swaplist nanny, this is a bad idea. The reason the stupid rule came into being was so that persons could decide if the seller and buyer were geographically near. A ZIP code was all that was ever necessary but administrative pride got in the way of good sense. This is not the reason for the rule. I would also like to clarify that the Swaplist rules only ask for your name and city/state/zip in public postings. There is no need to post your street address to the list. Here's the mini-FAQ with relevant rules: http://groups.google.com/group/lemswap/browse_thread/thread/1853a96bfcd7d3f9# These rules are for the protection of all swappers. If anyone wants to discuss these rules further the place to do it would be the LEMlists group, not here. Beverly Swaplist nanny --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
