Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-28 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Aug 28, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:



You seem to be the only one who produces multiple responses ... or  
am I mistaken?


You're mistaken, I've been getting random multiple repeats from a  
variety of members, it seems to be a travelling Google groups bug...I  
haven't gotten any for several days.


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Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-28 Thread JOHN CARMONNE


 Attn.: "Bill Connelly"

FYI

I have no idea what you're referring to, I post just like every one  
else, I have made many complaints to the Nannie's with no relief




On Aug 28, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:



"John Carmonne" ... didnt you say you were doing something like cut  
and pasting the google group address before posting to the group?  
You know, something different than what the rest of us do when  
simply Reply'ing to a thread?


Do you think you could stop doing that, and follow the usual  
protocol for posting to the group, thereby eliminating your double,  
triple, quadruple  etc ... duplicate responses?


You seem to be the only one who produces multiple responses ... or  
am I mistaken?


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Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-28 Thread Bill Connelly


"John Carmonne" ... didnt you say you were doing something like cut  
and pasting the google group address before posting to the group? You  
know, something different than what the rest of us do when simply  
Reply'ing to a thread?


Do you think you could stop doing that, and follow the usual protocol  
for posting to the group, thereby eliminating your double, triple,  
quadruple  etc ... duplicate responses?


You seem to be the only one who produces multiple responses ... or am  
I mistaken?


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Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-27 Thread John Carmonne

On Aug 27, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Dan wrote:

> At 2:34 PM -0700 8/27/2010, John Carmonne wrote:
>> Ok I know now that I can't boot the image but I stll can't get the image to 
>> restore to a HDD. I keep getting a helper error with Disk Utility.
>> The reason to make the images is to store many volumes on a HDD without 
>> partitioning??
> 
> Use CCC to restore the image.
> 
> - Dan.
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That makes sense I didn't try that because the CCC link says Disk Utility 
Restore works but so far IDTS.


John Carmonne
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Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-27 Thread Dan

At 2:34 PM -0700 8/27/2010, John Carmonne wrote:
Ok I know now that I can't boot the image but I stll can't get the 
image to restore to a HDD. I keep getting a helper error with Disk 
Utility.
The reason to make the images is to store many volumes on a HDD 
without partitioning??


Use CCC to restore the image.

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Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-27 Thread John Carmonne

> 
> John:
> 
> Taking your original post and your second question at face value, NO,
> a CCC disk image is not bootable, but YES, you can restore a volume
> with it and that volume would be bootable.  However, this is not the
> way most people use CCC, which is to not make a disk image but to make
> a bootable clone directly on an alternate volume.
> 
> The CCC web site has excellent documentation:
> http://www.bombich.com/ccc_support.html
> You can download it for convenient reference.  CCC's disk image
> capability is useful for some folks with unusual needs.  At:
> http://help.bombich.com/faqs/dmg-and-remote/dimages
> there is this statement:  "(* Disk images themselves are not bootable,
> but you can mount them and restore their content to a physical hard
> drive to produce a bootable, exact replica of the original)."
> Also, you can restore either by using CCC or Disk Utility:
> http://help.bombich.com/faqs/dmg-and-remote/dmg-restore
> 
> Hope this meets your desires.


Ok I know now that I can't boot the image but I stll can't get the image to 
restore to a HDD. I keep getting a helper error with Disk Utility.
The reason to make the images is to store many volumes on a HDD without 
partitioning??


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP



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Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-27 Thread Al Poulin
On Aug 26, 2:11 pm, john CARMONNE  wrote:

>
> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:35 PM, John Carmonne   
> > wrote:
> > Hi all
>
> > I want to know before I take a chance here if a CCC image is  
> > bootable I see the option as a read only image so can that image be  
> > booted?
> > Also can I restore a volume with it?
>
> Well the link above clarified the image boot question but now the  
> remaining question is how can I restore the image? I can't get Disk  
> utility to do it. It keeps saying there's a problem. With helper file.

John:

Taking your original post and your second question at face value, NO,
a CCC disk image is not bootable, but YES, you can restore a volume
with it and that volume would be bootable.  However, this is not the
way most people use CCC, which is to not make a disk image but to make
a bootable clone directly on an alternate volume.

The CCC web site has excellent documentation:
http://www.bombich.com/ccc_support.html
You can download it for convenient reference.  CCC's disk image
capability is useful for some folks with unusual needs.  At:
http://help.bombich.com/faqs/dmg-and-remote/dimages
there is this statement:  "(* Disk images themselves are not bootable,
but you can mount them and restore their content to a physical hard
drive to produce a bootable, exact replica of the original)."
Also, you can restore either by using CCC or Disk Utility:
http://help.bombich.com/faqs/dmg-and-remote/dmg-restore

Hope this meets your desires.

Al Poulin

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Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-26 Thread Gus
When I replaced my boot drive with a larger one, I booted off the
original drive, and cloned over to the larger one.  There is a message
that comes up, if you have set it up right, that says that the copy
will be bootable..  Mine was.  After the drive swap I noticed no
difference in the operation of the system.  I have only used CCC once
so I am not as fluent as others on this list are with the program.
But I can see no reason why it wouldn't be able to make a bootable
backup, and you shouldn't have any trouble restoring it to the
original.  Sadly, the only way to be sure that everything works with
the hardware you have chosen, is to actually do it.

Best of luck.

Gus

On Aug 25, 10:35 pm, John Carmonne  wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I want to know before I take a chance here if a CCC image is bootable I see 
> the option as a read only image so can that image be booted?
> Also can I restore a volume with it?
>
> John Carmonne
> Yorba Linda USA
> Sent from my MBP

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Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-26 Thread john CARMONNE


On Aug 25, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Illirik Smirnov wrote:


http://tinyurl.com/2g646lf
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On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:35 PM, John Carmonne   
wrote:

Hi all

I want to know before I take a chance here if a CCC image is  
bootable I see the option as a read only image so can that image be  
booted?

Also can I restore a volume with it?



Well the link above clarified the image boot question but now the  
remaining question is how can I restore the image? I can't get Disk  
utility to do it. It keeps saying there's a problem. With helper file.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my TiBook 500




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Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-26 Thread john CARMONNE


On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:45 AM, gifutiger wrote:


Greetings

What is a CCC image, CCC copies one disk to another, its not a image,
it is a CLONE
I can not find any option in CCC to make an image. Images are made if
you use Apples Disk Utility,
If you make a xxx,img using Disk Utility you can open (mount) the
xxx.img as a disk or restore it to a disk.

Cheers

Harry
San Jose, Ca


Harry look a little harder under select a target "New Disk Image" .


John Carmonne
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Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-26 Thread Doug McNutt
At 10:45 -0700 8/26/10, gifutiger wrote:
>What is a CCC image, CCC copies one disk to another, its not a image,
>it is a CLONE
>I can not find any option in CCC to make an image. Images are made if
>you use Apples Disk Utility,
>If you make a xxx,img using Disk Utility you can open (mount) the
>xxx.img as a disk or restore it to a disk.

In the ancient history of floppy disks and magnetic tapes an image was a bit 
for bit copy, the word being stolen from the concept of a photographic image 
which could never be modified.  How meanings change when Photoshop enters the 
scene.

But it's pretty clear that the OP was using the old definition of image rather 
than the stolen word, reduced to a file type - .img, common to Apple's 
distributions which are actually compressed data.

And clone has the same problems, especially when used for race horses.

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Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-26 Thread gifutiger
Greetings

What is a CCC image, CCC copies one disk to another, its not a image,
it is a CLONE
I can not find any option in CCC to make an image. Images are made if
you use Apples Disk Utility,
If you make a xxx,img using Disk Utility you can open (mount) the
xxx.img as a disk or restore it to a disk.

Cheers

Harry
San Jose, Ca

On Aug 25, 8:35 pm, John Carmonne  wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I want to know before I take a chance here if a CCC image is bootable I see 
> the option as a read only image so can that image be booted?
> Also can I restore a volume with it?
>
> John Carmonne
> Yorba Linda USA
> Sent from my MBP

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Re: CCC image bootable?

2010-08-25 Thread Illirik Smirnov
http://tinyurl.com/2g646lf
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architecture.


On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:35 PM, John Carmonne  wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I want to know before I take a chance here if a CCC image is bootable I see
> the option as a read only image so can that image be booted?
> Also can I restore a volume with it?
>
> John Carmonne
> Yorba Linda USA
> Sent from my MBP
>
>
>
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CCC image bootable?

2010-08-25 Thread John Carmonne
Hi all

I want to know before I take a chance here if a CCC image is bootable I see the 
option as a read only image so can that image be booted?
Also can I restore a volume with it?

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP



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