Re: DSL modem on POTS vs. Cable
Ken Daggett wrote: Afraid I don't know what POTS means, but... Ken Plain Old Telephone Service --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DSL modem on POTS vs. Cable -FINAL
From: Dennis Myhand dmyh...@ednaisd.org Subject: Re: DSL modem on POTS vs. Cable To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 4:20 AM Ken Daggett wrote: Afraid I don't know what POTS means, Ken Plain Old Telephone Service Yes POTS is still alive and rings. One point: The Modem connected to POTS to provide DSL has to synchronize to work - notice the LED marked SYNC. After connecting the line there is a delay for sync to gain hold then we are connected and ready to use. Having two Modems on my end will not work, since two modems can not talk -SYNC UP to just one Modem- at the Telco. ANY TELCO MODEM will work just fine - I got 5 all different brands, so no number checking is done in the modem, AGAIN with the requirement that ONLY one may be connected at a time to the phone line. If I understand correctly: Cable does use an ID number in the modem to work, this is how you are charged - by this number, not by the cable connection to your house as I wrongly believed. Question: Will a LinkSys work behind a cable modem? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DSL modem on POTS vs. Cable -FINAL
Jonas Lopez wrote: Question: Will a LinkSys work behind a cable modem? If you mean a LinkSys router, yes, it will work. I use netgear at my house because I have had better luck with netgear than linksys. My connection looks like this: ---Cable Modem---Router combined with 4 port switch---3 computers The cable modem (although this could also be a dsl modem) connects from the cable company to my router/switch. My router/switch translates the addresses of my computers to the single address received from the cable company. The cable company sees the modem and my router. My computers see my switch and router. Everyone is happy. I have a 6megabit down 512kbit up connection except for very early in the morning when it is usually 8.5megs down. I get up at 4a.m. so this makes me happy when I surf the most. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DSL modem on POTS vs. Cable -FINAL
On Feb 16, 2009, at 8:01 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Question: Will a LinkSys work behind a cable modem? Oh yeah. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DSL modem on POTS vs. Cable
At 5:43 PM -0800 2/14/2009, Jonas Lopez wrote: DSL modem on POTS vs. Cable I did not have a Linksys 4 way splitter, but I did have two DSL Modems-telcos, so I discovered you can just attach the phone cord to ONLY ONE TELCO MODEM AT A TIME and it will work just fine. You must disconnect the phone cord in this room to use the other modem in the other room - you can not have two phone MODEM connections at the same time on the same line. Correct. POTS hasn't got enough bandwidth to support more than one standard dial-up modem (V.90) at a time. If you're talking about an xDSL circuit over POTS -- same - the modem grabs all the bandwidth it has for the digital channel, minus just enough for a voice call. Since cable does not know who you are - no phone number etc. Incorrect. Before your data can be routed beyond a few hops, your cable modem requires permission to talk. It gains this when the CMTS (head end router) verifies the cable modem's MAC address against the list of modems authorized to your account (provisioned). So the cable company knows *exactly* who you be. can you have two cable modems connected at the same time on the same cable providing Cable DSL to two machines at the same time? Yes. You can hook up quite a few cable modems to your coax. Each has to be provisioned by the cable company and they will charge your full price for each. IOW, if cable internet service is $40, service for two modems would be $80, plus other fees. To share your service between computers, what they really want you to do is to use a single modem and a NAT Router. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
DSL modem on POTS vs. Cable
DSL modem on POTS vs. Cable I did not have a Linksys 4 way splitter, but I did have two DSL Modems-telcos, so I discovered you can just attach the phone cord to ONLY ONE TELCO MODEM AT A TIME and it will work just fine. You must disconnect the phone cord in this room to use the other modem in the other room - you can not have two phone MODEM connections at the same time on the same line. QUESTION: Since cable does not know who you are - no phone number etc.- can you have two cable modems connected at the same time on the same cable providing Cable DSL to two machines at the same time? Yes, I know, getting a 4 port LinkSys would make it work, but I do have 2 cable modems on hand. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DSL modem on POTS vs. Cable
Jonas Lopez wrote: QUESTION: Since cable does not know who you are - no phone number etc.- can you have two cable modems connected at the same time on the same cable providing Cable DSL to two machines at the same time? Cable does know who you are, and they also know what devices are connected to their cable. The cable modem has a device address, used in the same manner as a MAC address on the network adapter. Connecting two cable modems to your cable connection is going to cause the cable company to see both modems and wonder what is going on. Best case scenario is they leave you alone. Worst case scenario is they cut off your account and tell you to go butt a stump when you call to find out why you can't surf the web. There are no phone numbers associated with any of the computers or network devices at the school I work at. The Network admin knows when a new device has been attached to the network. Phone numbers are unnecessary and only help out people. They machines don't need them. They don't need any thing, or any one. Soon they will come for us. What's that Dear? Time for the happy pill? Okay... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DSL modem on POTS vs. Cable
On 14 Feb 2009, at 17:43:56 PST, Jonas Lopez wrote: DSL modem on POTS vs. Cable I did not have a Linksys 4 way splitter, but I did have two DSL Modems-telcos, so I discovered you can just attach the phone cord to ONLY ONE TELCO MODEM AT A TIME and it will work just fine. You must disconnect the phone cord in this room to use the other modem in the other room - you can not have two phone MODEM connections at the same time on the same line. QUESTION: Since cable does not know who you are - no phone number etc.- can you have two cable modems connected at the same time on the same cable providing Cable DSL to two machines at the same time? Yes, I know, getting a 4 port LinkSys would make it work, but I do have 2 cable modems on hand. Afraid I don't know what POTS means, but... As each modem is seen as a separate connection to the central switch pipe to the Internet, is makes sense that the ISP is only going to let you have the one connection you pay for. I expect the engineers at the cable provider are at least as smart. At the very least I expect you would violate your terms of service and be at risk of some sort of $$ penalty. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
