Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Dan]

At 1:07 AM -0500 4/15/2012, Kris Tilford wrote:

On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Dan wrote:
But when the verify fails...  I had two pass verification with 
FileMerge and one fail.


Sure wish all three passed so I could start ignoring the "verify 
fails" messages even though a sample set of three is nearly 
meaningless.


yea.  lol  Consistency would help.  I even tried copying off the DVD 
to the HD before doing the verify to see if there was some sort of 
read cycle issue on the +RW media.  No diff.


At 8:20 AM -0700 4/15/2012, Bruce Johnson wrote:

On Apr 15, 2012, at 3:23 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
What if it is something between the mobo and burner? A bad cable 
for example ? A bad solder joint on a port ?


That wouldn't explain the actual issue that Dan's narrowed it down 
to, which is that Burn needs a lot of free memory to work; bad 
hardware like that would show itself even with maximum free memory.


*nod*  But next time I'm in there, I'm going to pull and clean that 
IDE cable.  Maybe swap it out.  Can't hurt to try, I guess.


I think Dan's either got a subtly messed up OS X install, found some 
obscure bug in the hdiutil program (the common point between Burn 
and Finder's burning capability, I suspect), or simply does this 
more than anyone else in the world...which I doubt.


Tried while booted on a master OS X 10.4.11.  Same problems.  Going 
to try 10.5 shortly.


At this point, Dan, what I'd suggest is go ahead and use the purge 
sledgehammer as needed; you could probably even write an applescript 
or bash script, wrap it up with Platypus 
(, which have I mentioned lately how 
much I Love, LOVE LOVE this tool?) and make a droplet that purges 
your VM before burning.


oOo  I forgot about Platypus!  That would be a great wrapper - purge 
& launch burn automagically.  Nice!  Thx!



Maybe log off and back in before a burning session and don't do anything else.


That's the last thing I want to do.  It's anti-productive.  heh. 
I've taken to turning off JavaScript in Safari.  That way it doesn't 
chew as much memory - so I can surf while burning.


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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 15, 2012, at 3:23 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

> What if it is something between the mobo and burner? A bad cable for example 
> ? A bad solder joint on a port ?
> 
> Could you borrow another burner and try ? Or another cable?
> 

That wouldn't explain the actual issue that Dan's narrowed it down to, which is 
that Burn needs a lot of free memory to work; bad hardware like that would show 
itself even with maximum free memory.

I think Dan's either got a subtly messed up OS X install, found some obscure 
bug in the hdiutil program (the common point between Burn and Finder's burning 
capability, I suspect), or simply does this more than anyone else in the 
world...which I doubt.

At this point, Dan, what I'd suggest is go ahead and use the purge sledgehammer 
as needed; you could probably even write an applescript or bash script, wrap it 
up with Platypus (, which have I mentioned 
lately how much I Love, LOVE LOVE this tool?) and make a droplet that purges 
your VM before burning.

Maybe log off and back in before a burning session and don't do anything else.

Don't suppose you have a spare drive you could toss 10.5 on and test it on that 
machine...maybe it's something Apple's fixed since 10.4...

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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

What if it is something between the mobo and burner? A bad cable for
example ? A bad solder joint on a port ?

Could you borrow another burner and try ? Or another cable?





On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Kris Tilford  wrote:

> On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Dan wrote:
>
>  But when the verify fails...  I had two pass verification with FileMerge
>> and one fail.
>>
>
> Sure wish all three passed so I could start ignoring the "verify fails"
> messages even though a sample set of three is nearly meaningless.
>
> I've probably got 50 'verify fail' discs that I burned again. I hate to
> mention this, but with Mac OS Install Discs, I've had the reverse problem
> also. I've had discs burn perfectly and verify perfectly, and then be
> useless or problematic for booting and/or installation. I have installed
> and used seemingly perfect OS X from discs that failed verification, so...
>
> Disc 'verify' is a muddy mess of conflicting results.
>
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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Dan wrote:

But when the verify fails...  I had two pass verification with  
FileMerge and one fail.


Sure wish all three passed so I could start ignoring the "verify  
fails" messages even though a sample set of three is nearly meaningless.


I've probably got 50 'verify fail' discs that I burned again. I hate  
to mention this, but with Mac OS Install Discs, I've had the reverse  
problem also. I've had discs burn perfectly and verify perfectly, and  
then be useless or problematic for booting and/or installation. I have  
installed and used seemingly perfect OS X from discs that failed  
verification, so...


Disc 'verify' is a muddy mess of conflicting results.

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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Dan]

At 8:18 PM -0500 4/14/2012, Kris Tilford wrote:


Have you been able to confirm the "verify failed" message is 
actually valid, and that the discs are for certain bad?


Um, yes and no.  :\

Today I used FileMerge (part of XCode) to compare the contents of a 
freshly burned/failed DVD to the folder of original files.  When Burn 
says the burn failed, it's right - the disc is not readable, as, I 
guess, the TOC hasn't been written.  But when the verify fails...  I 
had two pass verification with FileMerge and one fail.


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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 14, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Dan wrote:

Just tried it.  In Safe Mode, I can burn & verify (Finder, DU,  
Burn), as expected.  Works fine, until the free list is tiny - then  
either the burn or verify fails.  No errors were thrown into the reg  
console or system logs.  The only error is a simply verify failed  
message. Even tried a few at 2x, no change.


Have you been able to confirm the "verify failed" message is actually  
valid, and that the discs are for certain bad?


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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Dan]

At 8:09 AM -0700 4/13/2012, Bruce Johnson wrote:
Have you tried this in safe mode? I actually don't know if burning 
will work or not, but it will limit the number of variables.


Just tried it.  In Safe Mode, I can burn & verify (Finder, DU, Burn), 
as expected.  Works fine, until the free list is tiny - then either 
the burn or verify fails.  No errors were thrown into the reg console 
or system logs.  The only error is a simply verify failed message. 
Even tried a few at 2x, no change.  eg:


Burn: Burn started, Sat Apr 14 13:24:40 2012
Burn: Erase started, Sat Apr 14 13:24:41 2012
Burn: Erasing in PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-127D B912 via ATAPI.
Burn: Erase finished, Sat Apr 14 13:25:12 2012
Burn: Burning to DVD+RW media with DAO strategy in PIONEER DVD-RW 
DVR-127D B912 via ATAPI.

Burn: Requested burn speed was 4x, actual burn speed is 4x.
Burn: Burn finished, Sat Apr 14 13:38:13 2012
Burn: Verify started, Sat Apr 14 13:38:13 2012
Burn: Verify failed, Sat Apr 14 13:39:56 2012

Since I had the machine down, I ran another set of verify disk passes 
on all volumes - clean.  Cleared caches, applejacked, etc.  No diff.



At 4:09 PM -0700 4/13/2012, glen wrote:

 >The burner is a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-127D

Just a WAG but could it be a drive firmware problem?


hummm.  I bought the burner from OWC several years ago and 
transplanted it to my QuickSilver late last year.  You've reminded me 
that there is a firmware update for it -- to enable DL and 16x 
burning.  Just applied it!  Works nice.  Thanks for reminding me 
about it  But... made no change in the problem at hand.


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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[glen]

> From: Dan 

>The burner is a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-127D
>
>
Just a WAG but could it be a drive firmware problem?

I found this thread on rpc1.org


Some Pioneer drives are FLASH_able some are not depending on the OEM. There 
maybe other threads on the rpc.1 forums regarding the  DVR-127D. --glen

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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Dan wrote:

> Mac OS X 10.4.11 (fully updated), on m'QuickSilver 2002, 1.5 GB RAM (maxed)...
> 
> Ahm having an odd problem...  Poked around and found an ok workaround, but 
> not an actual fix to the issue.  Wondering if you'all have seen this?
> 
> I'm trying to burn large files to DVD+RW media, using Finder, or Burn 
> (preferred), or Toast.  (Burn is the most convenient, simple drag'n'drop and 
> its smart enough to automatically erase the media before burning - which the 
> other tools don't).  Usually the burn and verify goes just fine.  But 
> sometimes it fails, either during the burn or verify steps.  The apps just 
> tell me that the burn failed. Nothing more is thrown to the logs.
> 
> Tried cleaning the burner, clearing caches, rebooting - didn't help. Tried 
> different media.  Even tried -RW media.  No improvement.

Have you tried this in safe mode? I actually don't know if burning will work or 
not, but it will limit the number of variables.

I've never seen this, but I've never done more than one or two disks at a time, 
and haven't run 10.4 in a long time. 

What happens if you do it the geeky way:




Maybe some bug in the GUI version...

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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Dan]

At 6:30 AM -0400 4/13/2012, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
If this was OS 9 I would allocate more RAM to the program. Might you 
consider running classic and using an appropriate application after 
setting more RAM in the "Get Info" panel?


hum.  Lemme see if I can dig up an old vers of Toast.


Do smaller files burn OK with the same set up ?


Same symptoms.


All cables and ports clean?


Yea.  Did a deep cleaning with a sukolux recently.  No behavior 
change before or after.


At 6:34 AM -0400 4/13/2012, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

Have you tried slower write speeds?


Yes.  No diff.


Other brand disks?


Yes.  TDK, Maxell, and Office Despot.  No diff.  Same results with 
+RW, +R, and -RW.


Is the optical lens clean and free of hairballs? I have had that 
problem with old drives.


Ran a cleaning disc thru several times.  No diff.


Have you tried a logging utility to get a better error record?


As I said in my OP, there's nothing being thrown into the logs other 
than the failure notice.  Is there some other tools that watches 
burners in some special way?


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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Have you tried slower write speeds?

Other brand disks?

Is the optical lens clean and free of hairballs? I have had that problem
with old drives.

Also old dry grease on the gear track can gum the write process.

Have you tried a logging utility to get a better error record?

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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Dan  wrote:

> At 11:45 PM -0400 4/12/2012, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>> Could drive access speed be an issue?
>>
>
> The burner is a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-127D
>
> The HDs are all 7200rpm, etc.
>
> If there was an access speed issue, wouldn't that manifest regardless of
> the amount of free memory in the system?
>
> Just trying to cover all bases.
>

If this was OS 9 I would allocate more RAM to the program. Might you
consider running classic and using an appropriate application after setting
more RAM in the "Get Info" panel?

Do smaller files burn OK with the same set up ?

All cables and ports clean?





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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Dan]

At 11:45 PM -0400 4/12/2012, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

Could drive access speed be an issue?


The burner is a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-127D

The HDs are all 7200rpm, etc.

If there was an access speed issue, wouldn't that manifest regardless 
of the amount of free memory in the system?


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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

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On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Dan  wrote:

> At 10:26 PM -0400 4/12/2012, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>> Do you need more free space on the hard disk? The lack of scratch space
>> was often a problem with Toast on old PPCs with small drives.
>>
>
> It doesn't seem to be a HD free space issue.  Typically, I've got between
> 15 and 40 GB free on the boot volume and aro 25 GB free on the normal
> source drive (also an internal).  When I burn off an external/usb drive, I
> have the same issues, and about 120 GB free there.
>
>
> Could drive access speed be an issue?


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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Dan]

At 10:26 PM -0400 4/12/2012, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
Do you need more free space on the hard disk? The lack of scratch 
space was often a problem with Toast on old PPCs with small drives.


It doesn't seem to be a HD free space issue.  Typically, I've got 
between 15 and 40 GB free on the boot volume and aro 25 GB free on 
the normal source drive (also an internal).  When I burn off an 
external/usb drive, I have the same issues, and about 120 GB free 
there.


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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Do you need more free space on the hard disk? The lack of scratch space was
often a problem with Toast on old PPCs with small drives.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Dan  wrote:

> At 3:37 PM -0500 4/12/2012, Kris Tilford wrote:
>
>> I've also wondered if these "fail to verify" are true?
>>
>
> hum.  Got me wondering that now, too.  Ok, I'm going to check and see.
>
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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Dan]

At 3:37 PM -0500 4/12/2012, Kris Tilford wrote:

I've also wondered if these "fail to verify" are true?


hum.  Got me wondering that now, too.  Ok, I'm going to check and see.

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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Dan]

At 12:14 AM +0200 4/13/2012, Valter Prahlad wrote:

In the past, I noticed MacOS had problems with +R optical media (so I always
used -R (or -RW) media afterwards), I don't know if this is still true.


Most of the discs I'm burning are destined for a Lite-On 
DVD-Recorder/Player, that requires + media.  But I did test with -R 
and -RW media, and got the same results.


Anyway, I usually set the burning speed to lower than maximum, freed 
up Ram quitting most programs, and I didn't do anything "CPU heavy" 
while burning.


Using a slower burn speed doesn't seem to make a diff.  CPU usage 
doesn't made a diff.  It's memory that's doing it.


I think DVD burning has high data throughput, so a G4 can't likely 
handle all of it while doing something else intensive.


The G4 has more than enough i/o bandwidth to handle any optical drive.


 > (Burn is the most convenient, simple  drag'n'drop

Maybe Burn hasn't a "smart" enough memory managing?
I always used Toast, maybe it's memory management is better.


Finder, Burn, and Toast - same results.

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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Valter Prahlad]

Il giorno 12-04-2012 22:25, Dan ha scritto:

> Mac OS X 10.4.11 (fully updated), on m'QuickSilver 2002, 1.5 GB RAM (maxed)...
I had a G4 DA (pretty similar to your QS), with 1GB Ram, and I had no
problem burning DVD-RW discs (with Toast 8).
In the past, I noticed MacOS had problems with +R optical media (so I always
used -R (or -RW) media afterwards), I don't know if this is still true.

Anyway, I usually set the burning speed to lower than maximum, freed up Ram
quitting most programs, and I didn't do anything "CPU heavy" while burning.
I think DVD burning has high data throughput, so a G4 can't likely handle
all of it while doing something else intensive.

> (Burn is the most convenient, simple  drag'n'drop
Maybe Burn hasn't a "smart" enough memory managing?
I always used Toast, maybe it's memory management is better.

> But the burn does work
> if the system has been freshly booted, and nothing else is running.
So it's either occupied memory, or some process that's still running.

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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 12, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Dan wrote:

But I'm wondering...  Have any of you seen this type of problem  
before?


On an anecdotal basis I can report that it seemed as if I had more  
burn failures on my dual 2.3 G5 when I had less RAM installed, and  
when I installed more RAM it seems like I have fewer "fail to verify"  
failures.


I've also wondered if these "fail to verify" are true? I've had an  
Ubuntu install disc burn that "fail to verify" under OS X, but when  
you boot the Ubuntu disc and run the "Check Disc" option they seem to  
verify fine. OS X Install Discs also used to "Check Disc" prior to  
installation, but now that doesn't seem to occur with the newer Intel  
builds.


I sure wasted a lot of discs if the "fail to verify" is a RAM glitch  
or bug that's not true.



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Free memory vs Disc burning

[Dan]

Mac OS X 10.4.11 (fully updated), on m'QuickSilver 2002, 1.5 GB RAM (maxed)...

Ahm having an odd problem...  Poked around and found an ok 
workaround, but not an actual fix to the issue.  Wondering if you'all 
have seen this?


I'm trying to burn large files to DVD+RW media, using Finder, or Burn 
(preferred), or Toast.  (Burn is the most convenient, simple 
drag'n'drop and its smart enough to automatically erase the media 
before burning - which the other tools don't).  Usually the burn and 
verify goes just fine.  But sometimes it fails, either during the 
burn or verify steps.  The apps just tell me that the burn failed. 
Nothing more is thrown to the logs.


Tried cleaning the burner, clearing caches, rebooting - didn't help. 
Tried different media.  Even tried -RW media.  No improvement.


I thought maybe my machine was too bogged and it was causing some 
sort of buffering issue.  So I moved the data source to my boot 
volume and idled other apps.  Same failures.  But the burn does work 
if the system has been freshly booted, and nothing else is running.


Then I realized the problem is with free memory.  Doesn't matter that 
I had a gig on the inactive list...  If I have at least one quarter 
of my memory on the *free* list, the burn & verify works reliably! 
If the free list is tiny, regardless of the size of the inactive 
list, the burn or verify fails!  huh?  You'd think the burning engine 
in OS X would be smart enough to properly allocate buffers!?  But 
apparently not?


Ok, so how to load up the free list?  At first I was telling 
GraphicConverter to open my whole desktop picture library.  That's 
about 60 files.  It grabs all available memory, then when I 
mass-close the windows, frees it all.  That works, but it's a PITA to 
do.


Then I discovered the 'purge' command.  Much faster.  (log below).

But I'm wondering...  Have any of you seen this type of problem 
before?  Is there a way to make the burning grab memory properly in 
the first place?  Are there issues with using the 'purge' command - 
it's kind of a big sledgehammer.


dans-quicksilver:~ dan$ vm_stat
Mach Virtual Memory Statistics: (page size of 4096 bytes)
Pages free: 4876.
Pages active: 167911.
Pages inactive:   173358.
Pages wired down:  47070.
"Translation faults":  255085132.
Pages copy-on-write:  589104.
Pages zero filled: 237974768.
Pages reactivated:   5216713.
Pageins:  229903.
Pageouts: 149098.
Object cache: 107891 hits of 156714 lookups (68% hit rate)
dans-quicksilver:~ dan$ purge
dans-quicksilver:~ dan$ vm_stat
Mach Virtual Memory Statistics: (page size of 4096 bytes)
Pages free:   173061.
Pages active: 138382.
Pages inactive:35146.
Pages wired down:  46576.
"Translation faults":  255181889.
Pages copy-on-write:  589408.
Pages zero filled: 238050846.
Pages reactivated:   5247502.
Pageins:  235546.
Pageouts: 149098.
Object cache: 107919 hits of 156799 lookups (68% hit rate)

Thx,
- Dan.
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Re: Disc Burning

[Tina K.]

Eric Herbert wrote:

On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:


>
>  On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Tina K. wrote:
>

>>  IIRC, non-oem ODDs don't function with the iLife apps. At least I think it 
used to be that way, haven't heard it mentioned in a long time.
>>  I think there used to be a hack called 'Fair Burn' or something that would 
fool the iLife apps into thinking your ODD had Apple firmware but I can't seem to 
find it on the web.

>
>  For a very long time that was the case, but since 10.5 any drive will do. The 
software you're remembering is PatchBurn


NEC, LG, and Lite-ON drives don't require PatchBurn with 10.3 or later.  Some 
brands do such as Sony and Pioneer (non Apple ROMed versions), but the 
previously stated 3 don't require it.



Thank you both, that is good information to know.

Tina

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Re: Disc Burning

[Eric Herbert]

On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> 
> On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Tina K. wrote:
> 
>> IIRC, non-oem ODDs don't function with the iLife apps. At least I think it 
>> used to be that way, haven't heard it mentioned in a long time.
>> I think there used to be a hack called 'Fair Burn' or something that would 
>> fool the iLife apps into thinking your ODD had Apple firmware but I can't 
>> seem to find it on the web.
> 
> For a very long time that was the case, but since 10.5 any drive will do. The 
> software you're remembering is PatchBurn 

NEC, LG, and Lite-ON drives don't require PatchBurn with 10.3 or later.  Some 
brands do such as Sony and Pioneer (non Apple ROMed versions), but the 
previously stated 3 don't require it.

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Re: Disc Burning

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Tina K. wrote:

IIRC, non-oem ODDs don't function with the iLife apps. At least I  
think it used to be that way, haven't heard it mentioned in a long  
time.
I think there used to be a hack called 'Fair Burn' or something that  
would fool the iLife apps into thinking your ODD had Apple firmware  
but I can't seem to find it on the web.


For a very long time that was the case, but since 10.5 any drive will  
do. The software you're remembering is PatchBurn 


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Re: Disc Burning

[Tina K.]

JOHN CARMONNE wrote:

On Jul 17, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Peter Haas wrote:


On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Amanda Ward wrote:


Any recommendations for an external disc burner for an iMac G5 (maybe
Intel iMac) to do DVD/DL and lightscribe?


Buffalo, which has a Sony Optiarc super multi-burner inside a well
designed case.

NewEgg no longer carries it, but it has a Lite-On which meets your
requirements ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106342

I generally use internal SATA drives wherever possible, but having
handy a USB burner, especially if it is bootable (as the Buffalo is)
can be nice.




I just bought a  LITE-ON 22X DVD Writer Black IDE Model iHAP422-98
LightScribe Support form Newegg for $24.00.  for my PM G5 to replace a
Pioneer CD?DVD burner.


IIRC, non-oem ODDs don't function with the iLife apps. At least I think 
it used to be that way, haven't heard it mentioned in a long time.
I think there used to be a hack called 'Fair Burn' or something that 
would fool the iLife apps into thinking your ODD had Apple firmware but 
I can't seem to find it on the web.


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Re: Disc Burning

[Eric Herbert]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:41 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:

> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> I just bought a  LITE-ON 22X DVD Writer Black IDE Model iHAP422-98 
> LightScribe Support form Newegg for $24.00.  for my PM G5 to replace a 
> Pioneer CD?DVD burner.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John Carmonne
> Yorba Linda USA
> Sent from PM G5 2.7

I have the SATA version of the same burner in my desktop PC and it's been 
flawless.  Never a coaster, and it's been through a few spindles of DVD's and 
CD's.  I have the 16x IDE version in my Sawtooth G4 (only burns at 8x-12x due 
to the bus speed) and it too has been flawless, never a coaster from it either. 
 They're not the quietest drives in town, but they're darned fast and very 
reliable.
> 
> 
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Re: Disc Burning

[JOHN CARMONNE]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Peter Haas wrote:



On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Amanda Ward wrote:

Any recommendations for an external disc burner for an iMac G5  
(maybe Intel iMac) to do DVD/DL and lightscribe?


Buffalo, which has a Sony Optiarc super multi-burner inside a well  
designed case.


NewEgg no longer carries it, but it has a Lite-On which meets your  
requirements ...


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106342

I generally use internal SATA drives wherever possible, but having  
handy a USB burner, especially if it is bootable (as the Buffalo is)  
can be nice.




I just bought a  LITE-ON 22X DVD Writer Black IDE Model iHAP422-98  
LightScribe Support form Newegg for $24.00.  for my PM G5 to replace a  
Pioneer CD?DVD burner.





John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from PM G5 2.7




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Re: Disc Burning

[Peter Haas]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Amanda Ward wrote:

Any recommendations for an external disc burner for an iMac G5  
(maybe Intel iMac) to do DVD/DL and lightscribe?


Buffalo, which has a Sony Optiarc super multi-burner inside a well  
designed case.


NewEgg no longer carries it, but it has a Lite-On which meets your  
requirements ...


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106342

I generally use internal SATA drives wherever possible, but having  
handy a USB burner, especially if it is bootable (as the Buffalo is)  
can be nice.



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Re: Disc Burning

[JOHN CARMONNE]

On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Amanda Ward wrote:


Hi All...

Any recommendations for an external disc burner for an iMac G5  
(maybe Intel iMac) to do DVD/DL and lightscribe?


Thanks,

Amanda


Pioneer 118L in an enclosure of your choice. IMHO

John Carmonne
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Disc Burning

[Amanda Ward]

Hi All...

Any recommendations for an external disc burner for an iMac G5 (maybe Intel 
iMac) to do DVD/DL and lightscribe?

Thanks,

Amanda

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