Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
On Aug 13, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: The colour of the cable doesn't necessarily mean anything. However, it might say on the markings. If it says PATCH on the markings of the cable jacket, it is NOT a crossover cable. Er, it is *probably* not a crossover cable. I guess there could be some pathologic DIYer who uses patch cable but wires it up in reverse. My crossover cables actually say CROSSOVER on them, however. -- Got lucky on the orange cable this one is a crossover but it doesn't say on the cable but the colors don't match on the ends. Thanks for the help every one, The Quadra to G3 and G4 via Ethernet is running perfect. OS 9 made it easy. 10.4.11 seems to be a real PITA with the AFP deal. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
On Monday, August 13, 2012 3:17:04 PM UTC-5, John Carmonne wrote: I have a G3 iMac 600 OS 9.2.2 and I need to connect it to a Quadra 650 OS 7.5.5 via Ethernet. I only need to transfer text files to and from the desk tops of the two machines, no internet or program sharing, only file sharing. I've done this in the past but I'm at a block wall on it now. I want a very simple one cable setup, anyone know how to do this? I've tried to do it with Tiger on the G3 but I get nowhere so I'm going to install OS 9 on it instead. In addition to all the other suggestions, make certain that the iMac is turned on and ethernet cable connected before you power up the Q650. If the ethernet circuitry in the Q650 doesn't see a connection fairly early in the power-on process the system won't activate the connection. This used to make getting a connection between two 68K machine with a cross-over cable loads of fun -- required booting three times between two machines. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
On Aug 13, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 13 Aug 2012, at 19:32:15 PDT, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Er, it is *probably* not a crossover cable. I guess there could be some pathologic DIYer who uses patch cable but wires it up in reverse. My crossover cables actually say CROSSOVER on them, however. - Easiest way is to hold the two ends of the cable together, in the same position, and look at the colored wires through the connectors. If the wires are the same in both, you have a regular cable. If not, you most likely have a crossover cable. Ken That I can do it's the simple things that slip by. I spent all day trying to get this thing going and tomorrow I hope it all goes as stated here,:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
I have a G3 iMac 600 OS 9.2.2 and I need to connect it to a Quadra 650 OS 7.5.5 via Ethernet. I only need to transfer text files to and from the desk tops of the two machines, no internet or program sharing, only file sharing. I've done this in the past but I'm at a block wall on it now. I want a very simple one cable setup, anyone know how to do this? I've tried to do it with Tiger on the G3 but I get nowhere so I'm going to install OS 9 on it instead. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
I have a G3 iMac 600 OS 9.2.2 and I need to connect it to a Quadra 650 OS 7.5.5 via Ethernet. I only need to transfer text files to and from the desk tops of the two machines, no internet or program sharing, only file sharing. Just turn on file sharing from the control panel on the G3 and then use the Q650 as a client (you could do it in the reverse direction but that will probably be slower). You could do this with Tiger on the G3, but you'd need AFP-over-TCP enabled on the Q650, so OS 9 I agree would be easier because it still speaks AFP over traditional EtherTalk Phase 2. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- I may be underpaid, but I underwork just to make it even. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
- Original Message - From: Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 5:43 PM Subject: Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet? I have a G3 iMac 600 OS 9.2.2 and I need to connect it to a Quadra 650 OS 7.5.5 via Ethernet. I only need to transfer text files to and from the desk tops of the two machines, no internet or program sharing, only file sharing. Just turn on file sharing from the control panel on the G3 and then use the Q650 as a client (you could do it in the reverse direction but that will probably be slower). You could do this with Tiger on the G3, but you'd need AFP-over-TCP enabled on the Q650, so OS 9 I agree would be easier because it still speaks AFP over traditional EtherTalk Phase 2. In addition, if you only have the two machines connected be sure you use the proper Ethernet cable. Many older Mac's require a crossover cable. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2274 --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
On Aug 13, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I have a G3 iMac 600 OS 9.2.2 and I need to connect it to a Quadra 650 OS 7.5.5 via Ethernet. I only need to transfer text files to and from the desk tops of the two machines, no internet or program sharing, only file sharing. Just turn on file sharing from the control panel on the G3 and then use the Q650 as a client (you could do it in the reverse direction but that will probably be slower). You could do this with Tiger on the G3, but you'd need AFP-over-TCP enabled on the Q650, so OS 9 I agree would be easier because it still speaks AFP over traditional EtherTalk Phase 2. Do I need to assign IP addresses to the machines to do this? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
Just turn on file sharing from the control panel on the G3 and then use the Q650 as a client (you could do it in the reverse direction but that will probably be slower). You could do this with Tiger on the G3, but you'd need AFP-over-TCP enabled on the Q650, so OS 9 I agree would be easier because it still speaks AFP over traditional EtherTalk Phase 2. How do I turn on the AFP on the 650? I looked and don't see anything it's 7.5.5. Speed is not an issue here just as long as I can daily get files from the Quadra to the G3 and onto a USB stick. I'd really recommend using the G3 as the server and mounting it on the Q650 with the Chooser. Then drop stuff on the G3. If you really want to go the other way, though, start it under the File Sharing control panel (IIRC). However, I think you will find it suboptimal, though it may not be a big deal for small files. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- To generalize is to be an idiot. -- William Blake -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
Just turn on file sharing from the control panel on the G3 and then use the Q650 as a client (you could do it in the reverse direction but that will probably be slower). You could do this with Tiger on the G3, but you'd need AFP-over-TCP enabled on the Q650, so OS 9 I agree would be easier because it still speaks AFP over traditional EtherTalk Phase 2. Do I need to assign IP addresses to the machines to do this? Since it doesn't sound like you have AFP-over-TCP or a similar tool like ShareWay IP installed on the Quadra, you'll just be using EtherTalk, and that doesn't need an IP address. You just need to have AppleTalk on and set to use Ethernet. You don't need TCP/IP for that. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Angels we have heard on High/Tell us to go out and Buy. -- Tom Lehrer -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
On Aug 13, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Do I need to assign IP addresses to the machines to do this? Since it doesn't sound like you have AFP-over-TCP or a similar tool like ShareWay IP installed on the Quadra, you'll just be using EtherTalk, and that doesn't need an IP address. You just need to have AppleTalk on and set to use Ethernet. You don't need TCP/IP for that. Ok thanks I'll get back at it in the morning. What settings doI need to look at on the iMac? OS 9.2.2. So as I get it I will mount the G3 via Chooser on the desktop of the Quadra. I'm pretty sure my cable is a crossover I was told that the orange color designates that but is there a more positive way. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
Ok thanks I'll get back at it in the morning. What settings doI need to look at on the iMac? OS 9.2.2. Turn AppleTalk on from the Chooser, if it isn't already. Make sure AppleTalk is set to the correct Ethernet port under the Network control panel and that it has an AppleTalk address. Start File Sharing from the File Sharing control panel. Check that the username and password are what you desire. So as I get it I will mount the G3 via Chooser on the desktop of the Quadra. That's how I'd do it. I'm pretty sure my cable is a crossover I was told that the orange color designates that but is there a more positive way. The colour of the cable doesn't necessarily mean anything. However, it might say on the markings. If it says PATCH on the markings of the cable jacket, it is NOT a crossover cable. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Never trust a computer you can't lift. -- Mac rollout, 24 January 1984 - -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
The colour of the cable doesn't necessarily mean anything. However, it might say on the markings. If it says PATCH on the markings of the cable jacket, it is NOT a crossover cable. Er, it is *probably* not a crossover cable. I guess there could be some pathologic DIYer who uses patch cable but wires it up in reverse. My crossover cables actually say CROSSOVER on them, however. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Light is faster than sound. Some folks look bright until you hear them speak. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
On 13 Aug 2012, at 19:32:15 PDT, Cameron Kaiser wrote: The colour of the cable doesn't necessarily mean anything. However, it might say on the markings. If it says PATCH on the markings of the cable jacket, it is NOT a crossover cable. Er, it is *probably* not a crossover cable. I guess there could be some pathologic DIYer who uses patch cable but wires it up in reverse. My crossover cables actually say CROSSOVER on them, however. - Easiest way is to hold the two ends of the cable together, in the same position, and look at the colored wires through the connectors. If the wires are the same in both, you have a regular cable. If not, you most likely have a crossover cable. Ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
I think your answer is in this short video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHCzykwpzZ0feature=plcp On Aug 13, 2012, at 11:17 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I have a G3 iMac 600 OS 9.2.2 and I need to connect it to a Quadra 650 OS 7.5.5 via Ethernet. I only need to transfer text files to and from the desk tops of the two machines, no internet or program sharing, only file sharing. I've done this in the past but I'm at a block wall on it now. I want a very simple one cable setup, anyone know how to do this? I've tried to do it with Tiger on the G3 but I get nowhere so I'm going to install OS 9 on it instead. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
