Re: G4 recovery
On Jan 31, 2012, at 12:43 AM, arichic...@gmail.com wrote: Some of you may recall, i had a few macs crash on me all at once. My iMac G4 lost video for some reason. Anyway, I hooked up the iMac G4 to my G4 DA through an ethernet crossover cable for 2 reasons: 1. I'd like to try to recover as much data off the imac as I can 2. I'd like to upgrade the DA to Tiger. The DA only has a cd drive while the imac has dvd, so i'd like to do a network upgrade Just get a DVD drive for the DA, probably cheaper than screwing around like this...you can get 'em really cheap nowadays. http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-SH-S182-DO-Rcat=DVD move fast this is a DVD DL +/- drive for $22. http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-GH22LP21-DOcat=DVD has Lightscribe and is $27. Post a wanted note in the Swaplist you'll probably get a read only drive very cheap. Otherwise, connect the iMac to the DA via FW target mode not via ethernet, that way there will be no issues of ownership or permissions. Also I don't recall, but you MIGHT be able to see the DVD drive in FW target mode if there's a disk in it. If so you can use that to upgrade the DA. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 recovery
The files that I did move over, came over read-only. About 30 folders, thousands of files. I can change permissions individually, manually via Get Info, but is there a way to change them all with a fewer set of commands, even through Terminal? The DA was able to see the DVD drive on the imac even through the ethernet cable. However, when I tried to run the installer, it said can't install this software on this computer. If I remove the hard drive from the imac and plant it in the DA, I'd assume there would be no ownership issues or problems accessing the files, correct? Seems immensely difficult to get to that hard drive, though. I am trying to work with these older macs spending as little as possible on upgrades and so forth, so I'd prefer to just get Tiger on the DA without sourcing a one use only dvd drive. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 recovery
On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:57 AM, arichic...@gmail.com wrote: The files that I did move over, came over read-only. About 30 folders, thousands of files. I can change permissions individually, manually via Get Info, but is there a way to change them all with a fewer set of commands, even through Terminal? yes, the command chmod will change permissions of files and you can apply it to many files at once using wildcards and to entire directory structures using the -R flag; the chown command will do the same for file ownership. These are covered in many basic unix tutorials. However, I suspect you would have much better luck with the file transfers by bringing the iMac up in firewire target mode instead of connecting through the network. This gets rid of all the issues of ownership and such. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 recovery
On Jan 31, 2012, at 12:57 PM, arichic...@gmail.com wrote: The files that I did move over, came over read-only. About 30 folders, thousands of files. I can change permissions individually, manually via Get Info, but is there a way to change them all with a fewer set of commands, even through Terminal? The freeware app BatChmod is a drag drop GUI for changing ownership permissions on large scale. Place all the folders files into one folder, and drag it into an open BatChmod window, set the correct ownership permissions, check the box Apply to enclosed folders and files and hit the Apply button, you're done. The DA was able to see the DVD drive on the imac even through the ethernet cable. However, when I tried to run the installer, it said can't install this software on this computer. If the iMac is Intel, that's the problem. There are two separate versions of Tiger 10.4, a PPC version and an Intel version. They are not interchangeable, you'll need the correct version of the installer disc. Leopard 10.5 is universal and installs on both PPC Intel Macs from a single common installer disc. If I remove the hard drive from the imac and plant it in the DA, I'd assume there would be no ownership issues or problems accessing the files, correct? Seems immensely difficult to get to that hard drive, though. I am trying to work with these older macs spending as little as possible on upgrades and so forth, so I'd prefer to just get Tiger on the DA without sourcing a one use only dvd drive. You should be able to use the HD from the iMac without issues. Normally using a Firewire cable would be preferable to an ethernet cable since you're supposed to be booted into the installer disc to install. To do this using a Firewire cable, place the installer DVD for the G4 into the DVD drive of the iMac, and then reboot the iMac into Firewire Target Disk Mode by holding the T key at startup. Connect the iMac to the already booted G4 using a standard Firewire cable. You should see the installer DVD icon on the Desktop of the G4. You can double-click the Install OS X icon in the Installer DVD and it should reboot itself into the installer DVD and guide you through the installation. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 recovery
Some of you may recall, i had a few macs crash on me all at once. My iMac G4 lost video for some reason. Anyway, I hooked up the iMac G4 to my G4 DA through an ethernet crossover cable for 2 reasons: 1. I'd like to try to recover as much data off the imac as I can 2. I'd like to upgrade the DA to Tiger. The DA only has a cd drive while the imac has dvd, so i'd like to do a network upgrade Right now, for some reason, the setup is letting me copy files from the imac to the DA but, not from certain directories in the home folder such as musci, movies, pictures. Other stuff, even folders I created in the home directory, iI can move. Why is that? What is my easiest workaround? I of course have passwords to both machines, panther and tiger disks. How would I get control of the imac? I can launch its system prefs but it immediately closes. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list