Re: Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-22 Thread Mac User #330250
Hi!

Maybe this is of some interest:
http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/322446-weekend-project-replacing-google-reader-with-tiny-tiny-rss

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-15 Thread Dan

At 7:47 AM -0500 03/14/2013, arichic...@gmail.com wrote:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_other_services_axed

Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do this?
And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup?


What made Google Reader so special?


 I don't really like NetNewsWire for a variety of reasons.


I've been using NNW 3.2.15 for quite a while.  Seems quite functional to me.


I don't like the little ads


You mean that little one inch high thing in the lower left corner? 
All it ever does is beg you go buy NNW.  Doesn't seem intrusive to me.


I do not like how it takes me to a webpage for a blog rather than 
presenting the content within itself.


Not sure what you mean.  NNW has a three-pane set-up.  The lower 
right pane, which is resizable, contains the content.  A single-click 
on the listed item loads that lower pane.  A double-click throws the 
url at your browser.


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Re: Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-15 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 15, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:

 At 7:47 AM -0500 03/14/2013, arichic...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_other_services_axed
 
 Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do 
 this?
 And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup?
 
 What made Google Reader so special?

The actual web app? Nothing. The API behind it made keeping multiple devices in 
sync so much better; applications like Reeder were based on that. Reeder is a 
very nice rss client; seamless between my Macs and iDevices. NetNewsReader also 
uses the  Google Reader API to sync your feeds.



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Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-14 Thread arichic...@gmail.com
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_other_services_axed

Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do this?
And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup? I don't really like
NetNewsWire for a variety of reasons. I don't like the little ads, I
do not like how it takes me to a webpage for a blog rather than
presenting the content within itself. On Aurora, Google Reader blocks
ads and many other good things to keep it low-end.

Also count me among those opposed to Wordpress esp without a good rss
reader! Why can't the Wordpress content automatically be forwarded to
extant email lists?

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Re: Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-14 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I just use the News and Blogs reader in Thunderbird. Anything not great 
with this option?

On Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:47:20 AM UTC-4, a1 wrote:


 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_other_services_axed
  

 Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do 
 this? 
 And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup? I don't really like 
 NetNewsWire for a variety of reasons. I don't like the little ads, I 
 do not like how it takes me to a webpage for a blog rather than 
 presenting the content within itself. On Aurora, Google Reader blocks 
 ads and many other good things to keep it low-end. 

 Also count me among those opposed to Wordpress esp without a good rss 
 reader! Why can't the Wordpress content automatically be forwarded to 
 extant email lists? 


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Re: Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-14 Thread a1
I am not a real fan of the Thunderbird interface, either, and like
NetNewsWire, it is tethered to one computer, isn't it?

Here is a good article discussing the situation. Man is Google messing
up.

http://web.appstorm.net/roundups/rssfeeds/google-reader-is-dead-heres-what-you-need-to-replace-google-reader/

On Mar 14, 8:44 am, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just use the News and Blogs reader in Thunderbird. Anything not great
 with this option?







 On Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:47:20 AM UTC-4, a1 wrote:

 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_...

  Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do
  this?
  And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup? I don't really like
  NetNewsWire for a variety of reasons. I don't like the little ads, I
  do not like how it takes me to a webpage for a blog rather than
  presenting the content within itself. On Aurora, Google Reader blocks
  ads and many other good things to keep it low-end.

  Also count me among those opposed to Wordpress esp without a good rss
  reader! Why can't the Wordpress content automatically be forwarded to
  extant email lists?

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Re: Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-14 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Understood. Yes, I read it like mail on one computer only. I can see how 
that's not ideal for many people. 

On Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:05:48 AM UTC-4, a1 wrote:

 I am not a real fan of the Thunderbird interface, either, and like 
 NetNewsWire, it is tethered to one computer, isn't it? 

 Here is a good article discussing the situation. Man is Google messing 
 up. 


 http://web.appstorm.net/roundups/rssfeeds/google-reader-is-dead-heres-what-you-need-to-replace-google-reader/
  

 On Mar 14, 8:44 am, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote: 
  I just use the News and Blogs reader in Thunderbird. Anything not 
 great 
  with this option? 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  On Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:47:20 AM UTC-4, a1 wrote: 
  
  http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_... 

  
   Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they 
 do 
   this? 
   And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup? I don't really like 
   NetNewsWire for a variety of reasons. I don't like the little ads, I 
   do not like how it takes me to a webpage for a blog rather than 
   presenting the content within itself. On Aurora, Google Reader blocks 
   ads and many other good things to keep it low-end. 
  
   Also count me among those opposed to Wordpress esp without a good rss 
   reader! Why can't the Wordpress content automatically be forwarded to 
   extant email lists? 


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Re: Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-14 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 14, 2013, at 8:05 AM, a1 arichic...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am not a real fan of the Thunderbird interface, either, and like
 NetNewsWire, it is tethered to one computer, isn't it?
 
 Here is a good article discussing the situation. Man is Google messing
 up.
 
 http://web.appstorm.net/roundups/rssfeeds/google-reader-is-dead-heres-what-you-need-to-replace-google-reader/

One huge point: Google reader is the google *application* to read your google 
*account's* RSS feeds. You can use other readers with your google account. I 
use Reeder on both my Macs and iPad and everything stays nicely in sync. 
NetNewsReader also supports a google account, iirc.

And I agree with many. If the mailing lists get shut down, well, so long and 
thanks for all the fish. :-( 

Web forums are well-nigh unreadable, not easily combined and filterable (all my 
LEM lists are filtered into two folders in my mail client Desktops and 
Laptops), and I've never met one that was nearly as usable as a mailing list.

In particular I HATE being sent to a web forum because 'somewhere in this 
frakking 3,234 screen thread is the answer to what you want, interspersed with 
everyone's 200 pixel high dancing avatars with another 100 px of decorative 
frome and dark red fonts on a black background because it looks like 1334 h4X0r 
eyecandy so you get like 4 actual posts per page that takes 30 seconds to 
reload. And FSM forbid you click on the miniscule 3-pixel high '' one pixel 
away from the '' icon that sends you from whatever page you were on to page 
3,234, with no way back.

Hmm, have I mentioned my visceral hatred of web forums before?? :-)


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Re: Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-14 Thread Jim Scott

On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:

 And I agree with many. If the mailing lists get shut down, well, so long and 
 thanks for all the fish. :-( 
 
 Web forums are well-nigh unreadable, not easily combined and filterable (all 
 my LEM lists are filtered into two folders in my mail client Desktops and 
 Laptops), and I've never met one that was nearly as usable as a mailing list.
 
 In particular I HATE being sent to a web forum because 'somewhere in this 
 frakking 3,234 screen thread is the answer to what you want, interspersed 
 with everyone's 200 pixel high dancing avatars with another 100 px of 
 decorative frome and dark red fonts on a black background because it looks 
 like 1334 h4X0r eyecandy so you get like 4 actual posts per page that takes 
 30 seconds to reload. And FSM forbid you click on the miniscule 3-pixel high 
 '' one pixel away from the '' icon that sends you from whatever page you 
 were on to page 3,234, with no way back.
 
 Hmm, have I mentioned my visceral hatred of web forums before?? :-)
 

Hmm, since Bruce hijacked this thread to talk about LEM going to web forums 
(another thread altogether), I will compound his error by seconding his 
visceral hatred of web forums. Add to that the pernicious and apparently 
unstoppable spread of clubs whereby drugstores, grocery stores, and just 
about every other seller of something is forcing customers to join their club 
or be discriminated against with higher prices. They can call it customer 
loyalty program or whatever BS they want, but I refuse to carry around a piece 
of plastic to show my fealty to every seller who wants me to buy something from 
them. And did I mention how I really, really hate people who don't use turn 
signals, and especially those who think it's perfectly all right to slow down 
for a stop sign but roll right on through if, in their judgment, it's safe to 
do so? 

Be careful about this LEM forum thing, Dan. I understand it makes sense for you 
in a lot of ways. But the downside is that it very likely will cause the 
disintegration of a worldwide community of like-minded folks you've spent way 
more than a decade creating and maintaining. So farewell, Bruce, Dan, Dan and 
the rest of you who have enlightened my mailbox for years.

Jim Scott
Eureka, CA

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Thank you LEM - WAS::: Re: Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-14 Thread Jerry
Its often difficult to impossible to understand the reasoning behind a 
move like this from the outside, and since I do not provide support to 
LEM first hand, I realize exactly where my opinion weighs.


I would ask that some form of a mailing list, such as Mailman, or 
something similar be retained.  I do not plan to follow if the list is 
moved from a mail list to a web based forum.


If LEM end up as only a web based forum, I would like to take this time, 
when we are all still together as a group, to say thank you to everyone 
who made LEM happen.  It was a great run and I very much appreciated all 
of the efforts made that kept this list alive.


Jerry


On 03/14/13 01:11 PM, Jim Scott wrote:


Hmm, since Bruce hijacked this thread to talk about LEM going to web

forums (another thread altogether), I will compound his error by
seconding his visceral hatred of web forums. Add to that the pernicious
and apparently unstoppable spread of clubs whereby drugstores, grocery
stores, and just about every other seller of something is forcing
customers to join their club or be discriminated against with higher
prices. They can call it customer loyalty program or whatever BS they
want, but I refuse to carry around a piece of plastic to show my fealty
to every seller who wants me to buy something from them. And did I
mention how I really, really hate people who don't use turn signals, and
especially those who think it's perfectly all right to slow down for a
stop sign but roll right on through if, in their judgment, it's safe
to do so?


Be careful about this LEM forum thing, Dan. I understand it makes

sense for you in a lot of ways. But the downside is that it very likely
will cause the disintegration of a worldwide community of like-minded
folks you've spent way more than a decade creating and maintaining. So
farewell, Bruce, Dan, Dan and the rest of you who have enlightened my
mailbox for years.


Jim Scott
Eureka, CA



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Re: Google Reader going away, now what?

2013-03-14 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 14, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Koralatov li...@koralatov.com wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 16:21, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 
 One huge point: Google reader is the google *application* to read your
 google *account's* RSS feeds. You can use other readers with your
 google account. I use Reeder on both my Macs and iPad and everything
 stays nicely in sync. NetNewsReader also supports a google account,
 iirc.
 
 Google Reader is both the web-app, and the syncing back-end that keeps
 $RSS_APP in sync across your machines.  As I understand it, which may
 not be entirely correct, when Google Reader goes away, the syncing API
 and corresponding functionality goes away too…

Yah I've been doing some more reading about that. This suxrox badly. Per the 
twittertwatter machine, though, at least the author of Reeder is promising 
ongoing support of some sort.



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