Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
MY error, I did not mean wireless in the forst sentence.. OK . Correction: My goal is to do with cables... The wireless is in another room and I don't want to connect them (cause I could) with wires to that router-- cause it can work also. On Nov 19, 4:50 pm, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't understand what you want at all. One minute you say that you want to create a hardwired local only network, then you speak of wireless routers. Is your DYNEX router giving out DHCP address to your local network? I asked this before, but you seem determined not to give clear answers. --- On Thu, 11/19/09, MacDiva newri...@gmail.com wrote: yes, I know that. But my goal is to do it wireless. The wireless router is in another room, so I cannot connect the 3 PCs with wires unless I ran them through the floor, etc to that room, which I dom't want to do, hence, the DYNEX ethernet router. Now, with some twicking of parameters and resetting the DYNEX router, the G4 can see the XP, but I have only one remaining connection that is not working: The XP cannot see the iMac. I added the iMac to ”Network Places“ in the Windows XP and it shows up, but I can only see FAXES and PRINTERS. The setting of the Imac allows it to be seen by the G4, and I don't see anything else I can change in the iMac or the XP to make it ”shareable“. On Nov 19, 1:48 pm, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: WAN = wide area network (the internet) LAN = Local area network (your home network) Both can be wireless or hardwired. --- On Thu, 11/19/09, MacDiva newri...@gmail.com wrote: I do not want to connect to the DSL... wireless. I want to create a physical LAN -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:16 PM, MacDiva newri...@gmail.com wrote: The internet corrupts my XP! I sincerely doubt that. :) -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
Thanks, Martin, you were very clear and to the point, and your answer is right. Thanks so much to be on point on the question. I think this closes the thread. Other issues are irrelevant. On Nov 19, 7:22 pm, MacDiva newri...@gmail.com wrote: I FINALLY DID IT! By Myself! As it happens, I found out how to make this happen in the iMac. the G4 has ”windows sharing among the options, the iMac does not. You have to dig to find out how to do that. After looking in the Internet and finding the same problem over and over and no one providing the answer, I looked at the iMac help and the answer is this: Exactly as you say, MARTIN, it just took one click to set “share using SMB” and voilá, I could access the iMac from the XP. QUOTE: To set up Windows file sharing: Choose Apple menu System Preferences, and then click Sharing. Select File Sharing in the list, then click Options. Select “Share files and folders using SMB.” Select the name of the user account that will share files and enter the password for that user. Click Done. END OF QUOTE: Remember, iMac does not have “WINDOWS SHARING” among the options, just file and printer sharing. This is apparently a very obscure fact. Because I saw this question over and over in the internet and no one had posted this solution. Hope this helps all gurus out there, Give the address of your computer to Windows users you want to share your computer. On Nov 19, 5:04 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: MacDiva wrote: yes, I know that. But my goal is to do it wireless. The wireless router is in another room, so I cannot connect the 3 PCs with wires unless I ran them through the floor, etc to that room, which I dom't want to do, hence, the DYNEX ethernet router. Now, with some twicking of parameters and resetting the DYNEX router, the G4 can see the XP, but I have only one remaining connection that is not working: The XP cannot see the iMac. I added the iMac to Network Places in the Windows XP and it shows up, but I can only see FAXES and PRINTERS. The setting of the Imac allows it to be seen by the G4, and I don't see anything else I can change in the iMac or the XP to make it shareable . Macs can use AFP (AppleShare), SMB (Windows sharing) or FTP to see other Macs. Windows uses SMB only (unless an FTP client is used). Is Windows Sharing enabled on the iMac? So two Macs being seen by each other but not by a Windows machine means that Windows sharing is probably not on. In Leopard this is in the System Preferences / Sharing / File Sharing / Options - Share files and folders using SMB. And make sure at least one Account is checked too. In Tiger this is in the System Preferences / Sharing / Windows Sharing. And make sure at least one Account is checked too (using the Accounts... button). Also check the firewall to make sure it is either off or the Windows sharing port(s) are open. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
As it happens, I found out how to make this happen in the iMac. the G4 has ”windows sharing among the options, the iMac does not. You have to dig to find out how to do that. I thought the sharing options had more to do with the OS version of the software more so than the platform you are running. my G3 BW 10.4.11 has windows sharing and personal file sharing as options... if the imac was running 10.4.11 would the same apply?? thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
I deduct from what Martin said, that you are right and not right at the same time. You can find the SMB option in leopard a leopard snow but not in the OS 10.3.9 that runs in my G4. But then it is related to platform since you need that to be set in order to have the XP access the 10.5.x OS machine. You don't find that setting in 10.3.9. That does not need to be set explicitly- don't know why - for the 10.3.9 . Am I right? On Nov 20, 12:48 pm, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: As it happens, I found out how to make this happen in the iMac. the G4 has ”windows sharing among the options, the iMac does not. You have to dig to find out how to do that. I thought the sharing options had more to do with the OS version of the software more so than the platform you are running. my G3 BW 10.4.11 has windows sharing and personal file sharing as options... if the imac was running 10.4.11 would the same apply?? thanks! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
On Nov 19, 2009, at 10:22 PM, MacDiva wrote: I FINALLY DID IT! By Myself! Would some one be kind enough to tell me what Harwiring refers to. Thank you, John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they went. --Will Rogers extreme positive = (ybya2) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
It is a router, NOT a switch. It is a DYNEX 10/100M Router On Nov 18, 1:29 pm, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 11/18/09, MacDiva newri...@gmail.com wrote: I want to make a physical LAN by wiring 3 computers to a network router. Is it a router or a switch? If you don't know the answer then tell us the make/model number. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
The LAN port is empty. All computers are connected to A port. On Nov 18, 1:42 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:16 PM, MacDiva wrote: The two Macs talk between them, the problem is the XP. I had wired the XP to the router with a simple ethernet cable, but I could see from the LEDS that it was not in the network, so I wired it with a crossover cable to the router. Fine, now I can see it is in the network--somewhat. This makes me relatively certain that you've connected the XP system to the WAN port of the router, rather than a LAN port. Try moving it to another port. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
On Nov 19, 2009, at 11:41 AM, MacDiva wrote: The LAN port is empty. All computers are connected to A port. ?? Typically these sorts of routers have a WAN port (for connecting to the cable/dsl modem) then (usually) four LAN ports for the local network. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
--- On Thu, 11/19/09, MacDiva newri...@gmail.com wrote: It is a router, NOT a switch. It is a DYNEX 10/100M Router. Looks like that has one WAN port and four LAN ports. Your computers should be plugged into the LAN ports and the WAN should be empty. You might want to do a factory default reset (do you have the instructions?) Once plugged in and powered on, you should check the network panels of the Macs to check they have been assigned a DHCP network address. You can also check the same in XP via the dos comarnd ipconfig. All cpu should have a ip address like 192.168.1.* where * = a unique number. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
I do not want to connect to the DSL... wireless. I want to create a physical LAN On Nov 19, 10:51 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Nov 19, 2009, at 11:41 AM, MacDiva wrote: The LAN port is empty. All computers are connected to A port. ?? Typically these sorts of routers have a WAN port (for connecting to the cable/dsl modem) then (usually) four LAN ports for the local network. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
WAN = wide area network (the internet) LAN = Local area network (your home network) Both can be wireless or hardwired. --- On Thu, 11/19/09, MacDiva newri...@gmail.com wrote: I do not want to connect to the DSL... wireless. I want to create a physical LAN -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
yes, I know that. But my goal is to do it wireless. The wireless router is in another room, so I cannot connect the 3 PCs with wires unless I ran them through the floor, etc to that room, which I dom't want to do, hence, the DYNEX ethernet router. Now, with some twicking of parameters and resetting the DYNEX router, the G4 can see the XP, but I have only one remaining connection that is not working: The XP cannot see the iMac. I added the iMac to ”Network Places“ in the Windows XP and it shows up, but I can only see FAXES and PRINTERS. The setting of the Imac allows it to be seen by the G4, and I don't see anything else I can change in the iMac or the XP to make it ”shareable“. On Nov 19, 1:48 pm, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: WAN = wide area network (the internet) LAN = Local area network (your home network) Both can be wireless or hardwired. --- On Thu, 11/19/09, MacDiva newri...@gmail.com wrote: I do not want to connect to the DSL... wireless. I want to create a physical LAN -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
I don't understand what you want at all. One minute you say that you want to create a hardwired local only network, then you speak of wireless routers. Is your DYNEX router giving out DHCP address to your local network? I asked this before, but you seem determined not to give clear answers. --- On Thu, 11/19/09, MacDiva newri...@gmail.com wrote: yes, I know that. But my goal is to do it wireless. The wireless router is in another room, so I cannot connect the 3 PCs with wires unless I ran them through the floor, etc to that room, which I dom't want to do, hence, the DYNEX ethernet router. Now, with some twicking of parameters and resetting the DYNEX router, the G4 can see the XP, but I have only one remaining connection that is not working: The XP cannot see the iMac. I added the iMac to ”Network Places“ in the Windows XP and it shows up, but I can only see FAXES and PRINTERS. The setting of the Imac allows it to be seen by the G4, and I don't see anything else I can change in the iMac or the XP to make it ”shareable“. On Nov 19, 1:48 pm, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: WAN = wide area network (the internet) LAN = Local area network (your home network) Both can be wireless or hardwired. --- On Thu, 11/19/09, MacDiva newri...@gmail.com wrote: I do not want to connect to the DSL... wireless. I want to create a physical LAN -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
MacDiva wrote: yes, I know that. But my goal is to do it wireless. The wireless router is in another room, so I cannot connect the 3 PCs with wires unless I ran them through the floor, etc to that room, which I dom't want to do, hence, the DYNEX ethernet router. Now, with some twicking of parameters and resetting the DYNEX router, the G4 can see the XP, but I have only one remaining connection that is not working: The XP cannot see the iMac. I added the iMac to ”Network Places“ in the Windows XP and it shows up, but I can only see FAXES and PRINTERS. The setting of the Imac allows it to be seen by the G4, and I don't see anything else I can change in the iMac or the XP to make it ”shareable“. Macs can use AFP (AppleShare), SMB (Windows sharing) or FTP to see other Macs. Windows uses SMB only (unless an FTP client is used). Is Windows Sharing enabled on the iMac? So two Macs being seen by each other but not by a Windows machine means that Windows sharing is probably not on. In Leopard this is in the System Preferences / Sharing / File Sharing / Options - Share files and folders using SMB. And make sure at least one Account is checked too. In Tiger this is in the System Preferences / Sharing / Windows Sharing. And make sure at least one Account is checked too (using the Accounts... button). Also check the firewall to make sure it is either off or the Windows sharing port(s) are open. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
I want to make a physical LAN by wiring 3 computers to a network router. I don't want to connect them through wireless when I am not using the Internet; main reason? The internet corrupts my XP! So, I disconnect them form the internet and power the ethernet router. This is what I have. (1) Ethernet router to which all 3 PCs below are hardwired (2) a 10.5.8 OS, 2.66 GHz, Intel core 2 Duo Imac (3) Windows XP PC (4) G4 PPC notebook, 10.3.9, 800 MHz There seems to be a problem with the XP seeing the iMac and the G4 seeing the XP. The two Macs talk between them, the problem is the XP. I had wired the XP to the router with a simple ethernet cable, but I could see from the LEDS that it was not in the network, so I wired it with a crossover cable to therouter. Fine, now I can see it is in the network--somewhat. === Problem: The XP cannot see the HD of the iMac and the G4 cannot see the XP though teh G$ can see the iMac. So, the question is, what settings do I have to twick t make this happen? === Thanks for all your contributions to solve this problem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
--- On Wed, 11/18/09, MacDiva newri...@gmail.com wrote: I want to make a physical LAN by wiring 3 computers to a network router. Is it a router or a switch? If you don't know the answer then tell us the make/model number. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Harwiring G4 notebook to XP and iMac
On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:16 PM, MacDiva wrote: The two Macs talk between them, the problem is the XP. I had wired the XP to the router with a simple ethernet cable, but I could see from the LEDS that it was not in the network, so I wired it with a crossover cable to therouter. Fine, now I can see it is in the network--somewhat. This makes me relatively certain that you've connected the XP system to the WAN port of the router, rather than a LAN port. Try moving it to another port. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
