Re: In the Market for a G5, maybe ...
I have been using a G5 Quad Core with later cooling system fix for a year and no problems. I am using Protools with SSD and FireWire drives. I think it's an amazing inexpensive tool. Cheers, R. W. Smith On Dec 17, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Il giorno 17/12/12 13:24, Bill Connelly ha scritto: A friend suggested I upgrade to a G5 tower, after my G4 QS 2002's cpu went bad ... Suggestions on which ones in the G5 family (and others) to consider are welcomed. Not too fat in the wallet ... I'm currently using a G5 DP 2.7 GHz, I got it used 1,5 years ago. Great machine: fast, very silent (liquid cooled), easy to access its innards, very stable (I'm using it with OSX Tiger). Its only drawback, so far, it's power hungry: it draws from 160 Watts (idle) to over 300 Watts! It's way faster than the G4 Digital Audio (originally 667 MHz, upgraded with a 1.4 GHz CPU) that I had before. A big step forward. If your QS felt slow, I suggest going for a G5 (2.0 GHz or above): you won't need to change your software (no OS9 boot, though!), but it will be snappier. Depending on where you are, I think G5s start from 100-150$ and up. Definitely worth a check. Regarding realiability, I read G5s with Delphi liquid cooling are troublesome, but mine has a Delphi one, and so far - knock on wood! - it runs flawlessly. I think it's a matter of luck. If you don't feel like gambling ;-) better go with an air-cooled one (the 2.3 GHz DP seems the best choice). Here you can find info and specs about all the G5 models: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/index-powermac-g5.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: In the Market for a G5, maybe ...
not hardly specific to teh G5 quads, but I think all these suffer from the dread Capacitor Plague form the period they were manufactured... while it's a singular cause (really bad quality power suppky capacitoers from a specific vendorfor severakl years) the SYMPTOMS, as some/all/none of the caps start to get flakey can look like ANYTHING else going confusingly, randomly wrong with the system. On Dec 27, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:15 PM, R. W. Smith wrote: I have been using a G5 Quad Core with later cooling system fix for a year and no problems. I am using Protools with SSD and FireWire drives. I think it's an amazing inexpensive tool. Cheers, R. W. Smith I went on and bought a G5 Quad Core 2.5GHz By later cooling system fix, do you mean the last cooling system that fixed the earlier leaking problems? Is there any preventive maintenance you would recommend? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
In the Market for a G5, maybe ...
A friend suggested I upgrade to a G5 tower, after my G4 QS 2002's cpu went bad ... I'm doing mostly involved photography processing in the HDR area now ... so speed is a good thing. All my applications are 32bit style coding ... will I run into any problems with G5s in general? What about the cooling systems ... didn't some of them have problems with the liquid cooling idea? I have a number of PCI cards that are still good ... what ideas do you have here? I may just wait for a QS Dual 1GHz cpu to appear, and consider going with an MDD for increase in speed in the future. Suggestions on which ones in the G5 family (and others) to consider are welcomed. Not too fat in the wallet ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: In the Market for a G5, maybe ...
I'm doing mostly involved photography processing in the HDR area now ... so speed is a good thing. All my applications are 32bit style coding ... will I run into any problems with G5s in general? No. I even compile TenFourFox in 32-bit mode for G5s because it has Carbon dependencies. What about the cooling systems ... didn't some of them have problems with the liquid cooling idea? I have a number of PCI cards that are still good ... what ideas do you have here? I may just wait for a QS Dual 1GHz cpu to appear, and consider going with an MDD for increase in speed in the future. Suggestions on which ones in the G5 family (and others) to consider are welcomed. Not too fat in the wallet ... G5s as a whole can be cantankerous and difficult to repair, but well treated they can last for a long time. It helps to buy the right one, though. Personally, I believe the only two worth owning are the dual 2.3, because it is the fastest air-cooled G5, or the quad 2.5, because it is the fastest Power Mac ever and its liquid cooling system is more reliable than previous machines. G5s slower than this are not significantly faster than the G4s they replaced and have more headaches, and the other G5s have various higher than average component failure rates (usually power supply or LCS). In your case, you may need to consider the dual 2.7 because it will still accept your PCI cards; the quad 2.5 will only handle PCIe. However, the dual 2.7 is actually not as fast as the quad (not only cores, but bigger caches), and it has a higher LCS failure rate. I own a quad, and it is a solid machine (and has been for over six years), but it is power hungry and can be noisy. Still, it runs my Power Mac apps like nothing else, and my legacy hardware was all external, so the PCIe slots are now filled with extension cards instead. And interestingly my MDD has failed more times than the G5 (the MDD has blown through two power supplies in its lifetime, while the G5 has never needed any significant maintenance other than cleaning). But the MDD will be cheaper to buy, a bit quieter and less expensive to run and maintain, so given that you have a need to keep your old PCI cards, an MDD may actually be a better option for you if you don't need the fastest Mac ever. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- FORTUNE: Today is an excellent day to have a totally rotten day. --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: In the Market for a G5, maybe ...
On Dec 17, 2012, at 6:28 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: What about the cooling systems ... didn't some of them have problems with the liquid cooling idea? I have a number of PCI cards that are still good ... what ideas do you have here? I may just wait for a QS Dual 1GHz cpu to appear, and consider going with an MDD for increase in speed in the future. Suggestions on which ones in the G5 family (and others) to consider are welcomed. Not too fat in the wallet ... G5s as a whole can be cantankerous and difficult to repair, but well treated they can last for a long time. It helps to buy the right one, though. In your case, you may need to consider the dual 2.7 because it will still accept your PCI cards; the quad 2.5 will only handle PCIe. However, the dual 2.7 is actually not as fast as the quad (not only cores, but bigger caches), and it has a higher LCS failure rate. My Dual 2.7 is a very reliable machine since I installed a Panasonic LCS three years ago, I had to repair the stock Delphi twice. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: In the Market for a G5, maybe ...
Il giorno 17/12/12 13:24, Bill Connelly ha scritto: A friend suggested I upgrade to a G5 tower, after my G4 QS 2002's cpu went bad ... Suggestions on which ones in the G5 family (and others) to consider are welcomed. Not too fat in the wallet ... I'm currently using a G5 DP 2.7 GHz, I got it used 1,5 years ago. Great machine: fast, very silent (liquid cooled), easy to access its innards, very stable (I'm using it with OSX Tiger). Its only drawback, so far, it's power hungry: it draws from 160 Watts (idle) to over 300 Watts! It's way faster than the G4 Digital Audio (originally 667 MHz, upgraded with a 1.4 GHz CPU) that I had before. A big step forward. If your QS felt slow, I suggest going for a G5 (2.0 GHz or above): you won't need to change your software (no OS9 boot, though!), but it will be snappier. Depending on where you are, I think G5s start from 100-150$ and up. Definitely worth a check. Regarding realiability, I read G5s with Delphi liquid cooling are troublesome, but mine has a Delphi one, and so far - knock on wood! - it runs flawlessly. I think it's a matter of luck. If you don't feel like gambling ;-) better go with an air-cooled one (the 2.3 GHz DP seems the best choice). Here you can find info and specs about all the G5 models: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/index-powermac-g5.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
