Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)

2009-08-21 Thread John Niven

I've used HandBrake to convert DVD's to a format that went onto my iPod nano, 
but I couldn't see how to convert other files. I ended up buying MP4 
Converter which seems to do the job, though I have had some audio sync 
problems which I haven't tracked down yet.



--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote:

 From: Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net
 Subject: Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 11:03 PM
 
  On Aug 20, 2:01 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net
 wrote:
  I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a
 demonstration of realtime
  audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for
 class lecture. The QT
  original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my
 iPod Touch for
  convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter
 for overhead screen
  projection on downloaded movies), so, in
 QuickTime, I select export
  then movie to iPod
 (end Quote)
 
 
 On 8/20/09 6:34 PM, starrf...@valley.net
 of starrf...@valley.net
 sent
 
  
  Try Handbrake.  It does a conversion appropriate
 for the end
  hardware.  Quick and clean and files no bigger
 than they need to be.
  
  Free too, if I remember correctly.
  
  Rich
 
 Yes, I have Handbrake. I will also give that a try.
 Basically looking for something that shrinks video file
 size for use in an
 iPod; surely others have done it?
 Thanks,
 Dana
 
 
 
  
 

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Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)

2009-08-21 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Dana Collins wrote:

 Thank you for responding, Bruce. Let's see if I can be clearer. The  
 movie
 was found on YouTube, and was downloaded as (I am sure) a Flash  
 movie via
 Perian, then ported to QuickTime. QT's movie inspector says this  
 about the
 resulting file:

 H.264 (Perian), 512 x 288, Millions
 AAC, Stereo, 44.100 kHz
 With normal size stated as:
 512 x 288 pixels (actual)


Silly question...have you tried just playing the original on your iPod?

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College of Pharmacy
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Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)

2009-08-21 Thread Clark Martin

John Niven wrote:
 I've used HandBrake to convert DVD's to a format that went onto my iPod nano, 
 but I couldn't see how to convert other files. I ended up buying MP4 
 Converter which seems to do the job, though I have had some audio sync 
 problems which I haven't tracked down yet.

I believe that ability came about in a relatively recent version of 
HandBrake.

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Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)

2009-08-20 Thread Dana Collins

I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT
original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen
projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export
then movie to iPod, converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it
took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is
maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a
whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the
reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded compression as mp3 is to
audio?).
Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting
algorithm?
Thanks in advance,
Dana
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Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)

2009-08-20 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Dana Collins wrote:


 I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
 audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT
 original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
 convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen
 projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export
 then movie to iPod, converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it
 took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is
 maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a
 whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the
 reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded compression as mp3 is to
 audio?).
 Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting
 algorithm?

It's entirely possible to do this, as QT might well be upscaling the  
video, because convert .mov to iPod gets you specifically  
formatted .m4v files.

Without knowing what the original specs are, it's hard to tell, but if  
it was small (320 x 240 or something) it could well have been smaller  
in the original; .mov files can contain considerable compression as  
well.

To shrink it down size-wise you'll have to use custom settings.

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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
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Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)

2009-08-20 Thread Dana Collins




On 8/20/09 2:39 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent

 
 
 On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Dana Collins wrote:
 
 
 I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
 audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT
 original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
 convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen
 projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export
 then movie to iPod, converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it
 took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is
 maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a
 whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the
 reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded compression as mp3 is to
 audio?).
 Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting
 algorithm?
 
 It's entirely possible to do this, as QT might well be upscaling the
 video, because convert .mov to iPod gets you specifically
 formatted .m4v files.
 
 Without knowing what the original specs are, it's hard to tell, but if
 it was small (320 x 240 or something) it could well have been smaller
 in the original; .mov files can contain considerable compression as
 well.
 
 To shrink it down size-wise you'll have to use custom settings.


 Thank you for responding, Bruce. Let's see if I can be clearer. The movie
was found on YouTube, and was downloaded as (I am sure) a Flash movie via
Perian, then ported to QuickTime. QT's movie inspector says this about the
resulting file:

H.264 (Perian), 512 x 288, Millions
AAC, Stereo, 44.100 kHz
With normal size stated as:
512 x 288 pixels (actual)

What I want to do is shrink it, i.e. Do the same to it as say MP3 or Lame
(or yet another lossless compressor - yes, I know MP3 is not lossless per
se, but I'm offering an analogy) does to uncompressed audio - would that not
be the *intent* of porting such a document to an iPod?

 To shrink it down size-wise you'll have to use custom settings.

In QuickTime? What are some good custom settings? What are others doing to
media as they prep it for iTunes marketability?

Many thanks,
Dana



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Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)

2009-08-20 Thread starrfarr

Try Handbrake.  It does a conversion appropriate for the end
hardware.  Quick and clean and files no bigger than they need to be.

Free too, if I remember correctly.

Rich

On Aug 20, 2:01 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote:
 I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
 audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT
 original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
 convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen
 projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export
 then movie to iPod, converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it
 took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is
 maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a
 whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the
 reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded compression as mp3 is to
 audio?).
 Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting
 algorithm?
 Thanks in advance,
 Dana
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Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)

2009-08-20 Thread starrfarr

Try Handbrake.  It does a conversion appropriate for the end
hardware.  Quick and clean and files no bigger than they need to be.

Free too, if I remember correctly.

Rich


On Aug 20, 2:01 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote:
 I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
 audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT
 original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
 convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen
 projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export
 then movie to iPod, converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it
 took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is
 maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a
 whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the
 reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded compression as mp3 is to
 audio?).
 Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting
 algorithm?
 Thanks in advance,
 Dana
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Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)

2009-08-20 Thread Dana Collins

 On Aug 20, 2:01 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote:
 I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime
 audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT
 original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for
 convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen
 projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export
 then movie to iPod
(end Quote)


On 8/20/09 6:34 PM, starrf...@valley.net of starrf...@valley.net sent

 
 Try Handbrake.  It does a conversion appropriate for the end
 hardware.  Quick and clean and files no bigger than they need to be.
 
 Free too, if I remember correctly.
 
 Rich

Yes, I have Handbrake. I will also give that a try.
Basically looking for something that shrinks video file size for use in an
iPod; surely others have done it?
Thanks,
Dana



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