Re: Jaguar not booting up
I zapped the PRAM already. It goes like this. I turn it on, the Apple logo shows up. The grey wheel spins until the Mac OS X window with a light blue Apple ahows up and says Loading Mac OS X and after the window disappears or is done loading, the screen turns a darker shade of blue and it says you newed to restart you computer in like 5 different languages with a giant restart button in the background. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Jaguar not booting up
On Jun 14, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I zapped the PRAM already. It goes like this. I turn it on, the Apple logo shows up. The grey wheel spins until the Mac OS X window with a light blue Apple ahows up and says Loading Mac OS X and after the window disappears or is done loading, the screen turns a darker shade of blue and it says you newed to restart you computer in like 5 different languages with a giant restart button in the background. That's a kernel panic. Try holding down the shift key as it boots, this puts the mac in 'safe mode' and will tell you if some other driver than Apple's base ones, anon-apple pref pane or a startup item are causing the issue. If it boots ok, look at those issues. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Jaguar not booting up
At 8:33 AM -0400 6/14/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I zapped the PRAM already. It goes like this. I turn it on, the Apple logo shows up. The grey wheel spins until the Mac OS X window with a light blue Apple ahows up and says Loading Mac OS X and after the window disappears or is done loading, the screen turns a darker shade of blue and it says you newed to restart you computer in like 5 different languages with a giant restart button in the background. Ok. See, that's important information. You got past the spinning gear - so the OS is loading and it's happy with the hardware, including the first DIMM. You got past the full load of the kernel and Aqua too. Once that progress dialog goes away, the login process starts. At that point, various daemons are finishing their init and some memory is getting chewed up. If you've got it set to auto-login, then your user's login items are also starting to run. That it panics at that point would indicate a memory problem, most likely. But again, as I posted before -- the details are in the system and panic logs. Look at them. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Jaguar not booting up
Ok, I will try the shift button at start and see what happens. On 6/14/10, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:33 AM -0400 6/14/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I zapped the PRAM already. It goes like this. I turn it on, the Apple logo shows up. The grey wheel spins until the Mac OS X window with a light blue Apple ahows up and says Loading Mac OS X and after the window disappears or is done loading, the screen turns a darker shade of blue and it says you newed to restart you computer in like 5 different languages with a giant restart button in the background. Ok. See, that's important information. You got past the spinning gear - so the OS is loading and it's happy with the hardware, including the first DIMM. You got past the full load of the kernel and Aqua too. Once that progress dialog goes away, the login process starts. At that point, various daemons are finishing their init and some memory is getting chewed up. If you've got it set to auto-login, then your user's login items are also starting to run. That it panics at that point would indicate a memory problem, most likely. But again, as I posted before -- the details are in the system and panic logs. Look at them. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Jaguar not booting up
i recently installed a fresh copy of Mac OS X jaguar on my system since my old copy of jaguar crashed (due to the 4GB memory switch) and it keeps on telling me to restart the system every time i boot up into jaguar. Any suggestions? leopard works fine, but i use jaguar because of the fact that it's a lighter Os than Leopard, and i use it for imovie and Q emulator. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Jaguar not booting up
On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: i recently installed a fresh copy of Mac OS X jaguar on my system since my old copy of jaguar crashed (due to the 4GB memory switch) and it keeps on telling me to restart the system every time i boot up into jaguar. Any suggestions? leopard works fine, but i use jaguar because of the fact that it's a lighter Os than Leopard, and i use it for imovie and Q emulator. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. Try a clean install on a fresh drive. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 800 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Jaguar not booting up
At 10:33 PM -0400 6/13/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: i recently installed a fresh copy of Mac OS X jaguar on my system since my old copy of jaguar crashed (due to the 4GB memory switch) That makes no sense. Why would any version of OS X fail because you changed memory? Oh geeze you changed the windshield wipers, so you better buy a new car engine! and it keeps on telling me to restart the system every time i boot up into jaguar. Any suggestions? leopard works fine Your description isn't very good. Kindof like telling a mechanic that your car won't start without bothering to mention that you either removed the battery or left your keys in the kitchen. And while we're at it, we should guess what Mac and other hardware is involved? Exactly when during the boot sequence is the panic occurring? What do the system and panic logs say? Since you changed the memory, zap the PRAM. Try booting into Safe Mode (shift key held down). That will rebuild caches etc. Try booting into Verbose Mode (cmd-V), and take note of what's happening right before the panic. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
