Re: Last gasp for G3 OS9 Browser - please help

2012-08-19 Thread Jonas Ulrich
Kris, I think you're thinking of the later G3 iMacs. For a G3 333MHZ iMac,
because of lack of FireWire ports, you can only run up to 10.3.9. Unless
you use a tool like XPostFacto, in which case you could run 10.4.11. The
ram maxes out at 512MB.

Yes, you can install up to 10.4.11, but you'd better max out the RAM at 1
GB, and even then you won't get any smooth video playback in OS X, but for
general browsing it would probably suffice.



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Re: Last gasp for G3 OS9 Browser - please help

2012-08-19 Thread D. Fabel
JML,

I've put OSX 10.4.x on the old iMac G3's.  It takes a little hacking to do it, 
but it will work.  OSX 10.3.x will install without hacking.

Doug
Portland, OR


On Aug 18, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

 Last use for G3 333 MHz Blueberry. 
 Can any OS X run on this? 
 I am now running OS 9 with the only browser that works poorly is CLASSILLA - 
 do you know of any better one?
 
 Real in need of help.
 
 Thanks, JML
 
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Re: Last gasp for G3 OS9 Browser - please help

2012-08-19 Thread Kris Tilford

On Aug 18, 2012, at 11:40 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

Kris, I think you're thinking of the later G3 iMacs. For a G3 333MHZ  
iMac, because of lack of FireWire ports, you can only run up to  
10.3.9. Unless you use a tool like XPostFacto, in which case you  
could run 10.4.11. The ram maxes out at 512MB.


Yes, I forgot, but that limitation because of the Firewire ports is  
totally artificial, and once installed, 10.4.11 runs without  
XPostFacto or any other limitations other than those already present.  
Using XPostFacto may be the easiest way to install onto these, but you  
don't need to install XPF onto the clean installation of OS X. Other  
options for installing include: creating a custom install disc with a  
modified OSInstall.dist file that's missing the system check; booting  
from USB HD with a cloned installer containing the modified  
OSInstall.dist; booting an OS X system from USB and cloning it onto  
the internal HD; removing the internal HD and installing OS X on  
another Mac or external enclosure and transfer the HD back again.  
There are some others, such as using Pacifist to install; or cloning  
the installer disc onto a partition of the internal HD using OS 9  
(need special version of Disk Copy, v.6.5b13 to clone OS X) and then  
modify the file from OS 9 and boot the OS X installer.


I'm not sure about the RAM, I thought you could use two 512MB SoDimm  
modules, but it appears you're correct and there's some other  
limitation that restricts it to 512MB total.


Looking at all these limitations, I'd say it's probably time to give  
up on this old Mac and get something newer. People give me old  
computers for free that are way better than this, and I turned down a  
whole pallet of these simply because their day has past us by.


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Last gasp for G3 OS9 Browser - please help

2012-08-18 Thread Jonas Lopez
Last use for G3 333 MHz Blueberry. 
Can any OS X run on this? 
I am now running OS 9 with the only browser that works poorly is CLASSILLA - do 
you know of any better one?

Real in need of help.

Thanks, JML

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Re: Last gasp for G3 OS9 Browser - please help

2012-08-18 Thread Kris Tilford

On Aug 18, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:


Last use for G3 333 MHz Blueberry.
Can any OS X run on this?


Yes, you can install up to 10.4.11, but you'd better max out the RAM  
at 1 GB, and even then you won't get any smooth video playback in OS  
X, but for general browsing it would probably suffice.


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