Re: Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz
Kris My Sawtooth is an AGP graphics model, but it has a 16MB PCI card in it (I bought it like this), I think it is from a B&W G3. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Oct 17 2008, Kris Tilford wrote: On Oct 16, 2008, at 7:17 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > It ran a lot better on the PowerMac than on the PowerBook. The TiBook doesn't have Quartz Extreme enabled, while the Sawtooth should if it has a Radeon card? Did you try enabling QE on the TiBook using PCI Extreme 3.1? It should work for the 8MB AGP Radeon Mobility in a TiBook. Perhaps this would help bring the speed up some to better match the Sawtooth? Also, perhaps the HD performance is much different? If the TiBook has an OEM 4,200 rpm HD and the PowerMac has a 7,200 rpm HD that could be twice as fast access to swap, etc. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz
On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:19 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > My Sawtooth is an AGP graphics model, but it has a 16MB PCI card in > it (I > bought it like this), I think it is from a B&W G3. You need a Radeon card to enable Quartz Extreme. (or equivalent nVidia). It should enable itself without need of any additional software. You should run XBench on these, and then enable Quartz Extreme and see if your XBench scores increase. In Leopard, Core Graphics is also nice, but on a 400MHz G4 it'd still be really slow, but at least you could see those amazing Core Graphics effects, albeit in semi-slow motion. I'm not sure what the minimum Core Graphics supported video card is, but it probably costs as much as your whole Sawtooth, or close to it? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz
Paul I am dual booting 10.4 and 10.5. 10.4 runs like a dream, 10.5 is a little sluggish but that is to be expected. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Oct 17 2008, Paul wrote: Is the 400 MHz Gigabit Ethernet G4 actually a Sawtooth? Were you running 10..4 previously? How did that run? That might be the optimum OS X for that machine. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz
Dan It should run lovely on a 500DP. With regards to RAM, I know my Intel iMac leapt when I added more RAM. Leopard is a RAM hungry OS. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Oct 17 2008, Dan wrote: At 1:17 AM +0100 10/17/2008, Simon Royal wrote: >Curiousity got the better of me tonight and I went and installed >Leopard on a 400mhz G4 with 640MB of RAM. I did it before with a >PowerBook G4 400mhz Titanium with 1GB of RAM. It ran ok, but even >Finder was sluggish and Cover Flow was painful. I did it before by >modifying the Leopard installer files to remove the requirements. >This time I used LeopardAssist and it works very well and is simple. >It ran a lot better on the PowerMac than on the PowerBook. Finder >was snappy and responsive, even Cover Flow worked fine. Nice! I recently got a PM G4 500DP. Been contemplating putting Leopard on it. I think now I shall do! :) >It only has 640MB of RAM, upping it would help a lot. Do you know that for sure? Have you observed in Activity Monitor that your free and inactive pools are very tiny (*both* being less than 10MB), and that the paging rates are going nutz? - Dan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz
Is the 400 MHz Gigabit Ethernet G4 actually a Sawtooth? Were you running 10..4 previously? How did that run? That might be the optimum OS X for that machine. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz
At 1:17 AM +0100 10/17/2008, Simon Royal wrote: >Curiousity got the better of me tonight and I went and installed >Leopard on a 400mhz G4 with 640MB of RAM. I did it before with a >PowerBook G4 400mhz Titanium with 1GB of RAM. It ran ok, but even >Finder was sluggish and Cover Flow was painful. I did it before by >modifying the Leopard installer files to remove the requirements. >This time I used LeopardAssist and it works very well and is simple. >It ran a lot better on the PowerMac than on the PowerBook. Finder >was snappy and responsive, even Cover Flow worked fine. Nice! I recently got a PM G4 500DP. Been contemplating putting Leopard on it. I think now I shall do! :) >It only has 640MB of RAM, upping it would help a lot. Do you know that for sure? Have you observed in Activity Monitor that your free and inactive pools are very tiny (*both* being less than 10MB), and that the paging rates are going nutz? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz
On Oct 16, 2008, at 7:17 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > It ran a lot better on the PowerMac than on the PowerBook. The TiBook doesn't have Quartz Extreme enabled, while the Sawtooth should if it has a Radeon card? Did you try enabling QE on the TiBook using PCI Extreme 3.1? It should work for the 8MB AGP Radeon Mobility in a TiBook. Perhaps this would help bring the speed up some to better match the Sawtooth? Also, perhaps the HD performance is much different? If the TiBook has an OEM 4,200 rpm HD and the PowerMac has a 7,200 rpm HD that could be twice as fast access to swap, etc. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz
Hi. Curiousity got the better of me tonight and I went and installed Leopard on a 400mhz G4 with 640MB of RAM. I did it before with a PowerBook G4 400mhz Titanium with 1GB of RAM. It ran ok, but even Finder was sluggish and Cover Flow was painful. I did it before by modifying the Leopard installer files to remove the requirements. This time I used LeopardAssist and it works very well and is simple. It ran a lot better on the PowerMac than on the PowerBook. Finder was snappy and responsive, even Cover Flow worked fine. It only has 640MB of RAM, upping it would help a lot. It definitely was useable and I was surprised by the speed. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
