Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
I knew that.just joking...Thanks a million. Choice On May 19, 2009, at 5:23 PM, J.M.P.Hissel wrote: On 19-05-2009 21:38, photoartcom, photoart...@verizon.net, wrote: But another question, how can I boot up with the drive I want without using a external disk repair utility to select. Is their a way? choice Hold down Alt/Opt when booting up and make your choice or when already booted: Go to System Prefs - Startup Disk and make your choice. HTH, Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
But another question, how can I boot up with the drive I want without using a external disk repair utility to select. Is their a way? choice Are you asking for methods for starting up from external drives? I believe Shift-Opt-Command-Delete when starting up, asks the system to startup from an external disk, or alternate partition (like a Classic OS 9 partition). Xpostfacto can also be used to Startup, using the internal disk as a Helper, resulting in the external disk being booted from ... I think that's the way it goes. It does create a boot cache of some sort, which may complicate things if you return to normal boot mode. I can use that technique to Startup from external FW drives on my Yikes!, where ordinarily I cannot boot from external FW or USB drives at all on the Yikes!. I believe you could also Startup from the CD or DVD Install Disk, and use Startup Disk in the Utilities menu to redirect to an external drive. I might be off in the names of the Install disk menues/items, but you get what I mean. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
Or upon booting, immediately hold down just the option key. When the arrow appears, click once on which ever HD you want to boot from. It might take several minutes before the arrow appears - be patient. On the dual G4 533 DA which has no issues and which I am using it take about 25 seconds for the arrow to appear. Mel --- On Wed, 5/20/09, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: From: insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.net Subject: Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating. To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 4:59 AM But another question, how can I boot up with the drive I want without using a external disk repair utility to select. Is their a way? choice Are you asking for methods for starting up from external drives? I believe Shift-Opt-Command-Delete when starting up, asks the system to startup from an external disk, or alternate partition (like a Classic OS 9 partition). Xpostfacto can also be used to Startup, using the internal disk as a Helper, resulting in the external disk being booted from ... I think that's the way it goes. It does create a boot cache of some sort, which may complicate things if you return to normal boot mode. I can use that technique to Startup from external FW drives on my Yikes!, where ordinarily I cannot boot from external FW or USB drives at all on the Yikes!. I believe you could also Startup from the CD or DVD Install Disk, and use Startup Disk in the Utilities menu to redirect to an external drive. I might be off in the names of the Install disk menues/items, but you get what I mean. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
Dan, I wanted to thank you and all the Mac. Professor for their time and knowledge answering my questions. By being on the G4 list, I was able to buy a G4 Duel. MDD. and a LCD monitor. put in a second hard drive and everything works. peace to the forces. But another question, how can I boot up with the drive I want without using a external disk repair utility to select. Is their a way? choice On May 5, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Dan wrote: At 7:06 AM -0700 5/5/2009, photoARTcom wrote: Not one but two of my G4 machines started to display a static sound when starting up. This is after I downloaded an updated from apple. After the restart both machines stop working . They are not completely dead but no tone and no start up. not completely dead. So what do they do? Do they seem to power up? Does the video turn on? Does the screen go blue? Spinning gear? etc Have you tried booting into Safe Mode (shift key held down)? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
On 19-05-2009 21:38, photoartcom, photoart...@verizon.net, wrote: But another question, how can I boot up with the drive I want without using a external disk repair utility to select. Is their a way? choice Hold down Alt/Opt when booting up and make your choice or when already booted: Go to System Prefs - Startup Disk and make your choice. HTH, Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
Dan, Peace And Health. I never resolved the problem below. I followed your advise with no luck. I picked up another G4 from eBay, a MDD G4 Duel. Question; can I take my 120gb harddrive from the GigG4 and put it into the MDDG4, or can I add my old HD. to the new machine and use both of them on the same machine? Choice On May 7, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:02 PM -0400 5/7/2009, photoartcom wrote: I replaced the 3.6V battery, tested the battery which registered good. In the beginning I used the reset button to jump start the computer, which worked for a week. Now it only lights up and no noise. Its not the power because it lights up right? . Do you think if I replaced the mother board, I could get some power into it. I unplugged everything except the key-board and monitor, with the same results. what is your thoughts? At this point, it could be either the power supply or motherboard. Strip the machine down a bit. No externals except keyboard, mouse, and monitor. Pull the PCI cards and video card. Hit the CUDA button (reset the PMU) *once*. Then try booting... see if you can at least the no gots memory! beeps. What specific PowerMac do you have? Is it a GigE or? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
At 11:33 AM -0400 5/6/2009, photoartcom wrote: They seem to power up, meaning the lights come on. I can hear it trying to start up but no video (monitor), no tone, just lights. Lack of bong is a total failure of the self-test - probably the PMU isn't running. So Peter's suggestion of replacing the PRAM battery is the first step. Odd that two machines would go down at the same time this way tho. What else happened? What is plugged into them? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
Peace And Health, Dan I replaced the 3.6V battery, tested the battery which registered good. In the beginning I used the reset button to jump start the computer, which worked for a week. Now it only lights up and no noise. Its not the power because it lights up right? . Do you think if I replaced the mother board, I could get some power into it. I unplugged everything except the key-board and monitor, with the same results. what is your thoughts? choice On May 7, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Dan wrote: At 11:33 AM -0400 5/6/2009, photoartcom wrote: They seem to power up, meaning the lights come on. I can hear it trying to start up but no video (monitor), no tone, just lights. Lack of bong is a total failure of the self-test - probably the PMU isn't running. So Peter's suggestion of replacing the PRAM battery is the first step. Odd that two machines would go down at the same time this way tho. What else happened? What is plugged into them? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
At 12:02 PM -0400 5/7/2009, photoartcom wrote: I replaced the 3.6V battery, tested the battery which registered good. In the beginning I used the reset button to jump start the computer, which worked for a week. Now it only lights up and no noise. Its not the power because it lights up right? . Do you think if I replaced the mother board, I could get some power into it. I unplugged everything except the key-board and monitor, with the same results. what is your thoughts? At this point, it could be either the power supply or motherboard. Strip the machine down a bit. No externals except keyboard, mouse, and monitor. Pull the PCI cards and video card. Hit the CUDA button (reset the PMU) *once*. Then try booting... see if you can at least the no gots memory! beeps. What specific PowerMac do you have? Is it a GigE or? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
Peace And Health, Dan Thanks for sharing your knowledge with me. They seem to power up, meaning the lights come on. I can hear it trying to start up but no video (monitor), no tone, just lights. On May 5, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Dan wrote: At 7:06 AM -0700 5/5/2009, photoARTcom wrote: Not one but two of my G4 machines started to display a static sound when starting up. This is after I downloaded an updated from apple. After the restart both machines stop working . They are not completely dead but no tone and no start up. not completely dead. So what do they do? Do they seem to power up? Does the video turn on? Does the screen go blue? Spinning gear? etc Have you tried booting into Safe Mode (shift key held down)? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
Not one but two of my G4 machines started to display a static sound when starting up. This is after I downloaded an updated from apple. After the restart both machines stop working . They are not completely dead but no tone and no start up. Please Advise Choice Fowler DOP. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
On May 5, 2009, at 7:06 AM, photoARTcom wrote: Not one but two of my G4 machines started to display a static sound when starting up. This is after I downloaded an updated from apple. After the restart both machines stop working . They are not completely dead but no tone and no start up. Check and replace, as necessary, the 3.6 volt 1/2AA PRAM battery. A brand-new battery will read approximately 3.68 volts. It stays at the 3.6 volt level, at least, for about 99.44 percent of its lifetime, then it slowly tends towards 3.2 volts. It is considered dead at 3.0 volts, although most models will continue to operate properly until somewhat below 3.0 volts. The curve is so steep at 3.0 volts that you might as well toss the battery. These batteries are so ubiquitous that Mac recyclers generally pull them, test them and sell them, usually for a buck a battery for such a pull. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My Ethernet Duel G4 want start after updating.
At 7:06 AM -0700 5/5/2009, photoARTcom wrote: Not one but two of my G4 machines started to display a static sound when starting up. This is after I downloaded an updated from apple. After the restart both machines stop working . They are not completely dead but no tone and no start up. not completely dead. So what do they do? Do they seem to power up? Does the video turn on? Does the screen go blue? Spinning gear? etc Have you tried booting into Safe Mode (shift key held down)? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
