Re: Migration from G4 Tiger to new Mini Leopard

2009-04-04 Thread Steve R 

At 9:29 AM -0700 4/4/09, Bruce Johnson posted:
>  On Apr 4, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Steve R wrote:
>
>>   Is this adapter from Tigerdirect.ca the right adapter
>>  to finally use my Firewire 800 port with my Firewire 400 peripherals?
>>  It's cheaper by half of the adapters I'm seeing on the US sites which
>>  is usually not the case.
>>
>> 
>>> 
>>
>>  >
>
>  No, this is for the really small 4-pin FW connector typically found on
>  PC laptops or cameras (it doesn't carry power)
>
>  
>
>  The second one down is what you want.  Monoprice is THE place to buy
>  cables. We get all our cabling from them for work, ethernet, scsi,
>  fiber, etc.
>

Thanks, Bruce. Glad I didn't place the order ;-)

Steve R

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Re: Migration from G4 Tiger to new Mini Leopard

2009-04-04 Thread Al Poulin 

On Apr 4, 10:23 am, Dan  wrote:
> At 8:56 PM -0500 4/3/2009, Wendell Mendell wrote:
>
> >(b) An Apple Help Desk person did not think it was possible to
> >migrate accounts from one computer to another (much to my
> >astonishment).  She only talked about transferring files.  I know how
> >to transfer files.  If I were to just transfer files and not use the
> >Migration Assistant, which ones should I bring over?  I know
> >something about Libraries and such, but I would think that trying to
> >move all the bits and pieces from one operating system to the other
> >might have unintended consequences.  And then there are the
> >Applications..
>
> Use Migration Assistant to move what it can.
>

I am not keen on Migration Assistant, having failed from a G4 with
Panther to a G4 with Tiger, and then from that same G4 with Panther to
an Intel iMac with Leopard.  But try it anyway.

For insurance, be ready to use the recent, excellent advice near the
end of this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/aabee6132bfc9e3e?hl=en

I have twice moved my mailboxes and User library plists this way.  I
have not gone after the filters plist.

And if you end up moving everything manually, you may want to fetch
your browser bookmarks in your Library Preferences.

Al Poulin
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Re: Migration from G4 Tiger to new Mini Leopard

2009-04-04 Thread Bruce Johnson 


On Apr 4, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Steve R wrote:

>  Is this adapter from Tigerdirect.ca the right adapter
> to finally use my Firewire 800 port with my Firewire 400 peripherals?
> It's cheaper by half of the adapters I'm seeing on the US sites which
> is usually not the case.
>
>   
> >

No, this is for the really small 4-pin FW connector typically found on  
PC laptops or cameras (it doesn't carry power)



The second one down is what you want.  Monoprice is THE place to buy  
cables. We get all our cabling from them for work, ethernet, scsi,  
fiber, etc.

--
Bruce Johnson
U of Az  College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group
Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs


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Re: Migration from G4 Tiger to new Mini Leopard

2009-04-04 Thread Steve R 

At 2:04 AM -0700 4/4/09, Gary D. posted:
>  I had exactly the same situation. Sonnet has a FireWire adapter from
>  800 to 400 that works great for me. May be cheaper than a cable. I
>  also considered the Ethernet route but found it too complicated.
>

Strange when I search US sites I'm finding adapters that say they are 
800/400 but when I hit the Canadian sites I'm getting 4-pin/6-pin 
descriptions. Is this adapter from Tigerdirect.ca the right adapter 
to finally use my Firewire 800 port with my Firewire 400 peripherals? 
It's cheaper by half of the adapters I'm seeing on the US sites which 
is usually not the case.



Thanks

Steve R

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Re: Migration from G4 Tiger to new Mini Leopard

2009-04-04 Thread Dan 

At 8:56 PM -0500 4/3/2009, Wendell Mendell wrote:
>new Mini and want to migrate user accounts from my G4 Sawtooth, 
>running 10.4.11.

>(a) Should I just go get the 800/400 Firewire cable and do it that 
>way?

Having the older computer booted in firewire target disk mode does 
seem to work better.  Certainly faster than using file sharing 
(ethernet).

>Does that still work between Leopard and Tiger?

Certainly.

>(b) An Apple Help Desk person did not think it was possible to 
>migrate accounts from one computer to another (much to my 
>astonishment).  She only talked about transferring files.  I know how 
>to transfer files.  If I were to just transfer files and not use the 
>Migration Assistant, which ones should I bring over?  I know 
>something about Libraries and such, but I would think that trying to 
>move all the bits and pieces from one operating system to the other 
>might have unintended consequences.  And then there are the
>Applications..

Use Migration Assistant to move what it can.

Just be aware that some apps will need to be upgraded, because you're 
not only switching from Tiger to Leopard, but you're also going from 
PowerPC to Intel x86.

- Dan.
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Re: Migration from G4 Tiger to new Mini Leopard

2009-04-04 Thread Bob Whiton 

>
>
>(a) Should I just go get the 800/400 Firewire cable and do it that
>way?  Does that still work between Leopard and Tiger?
>

Migration Assistant via Firewire worked fine going from my Sawtooth 
G4 running 10.3 to an Intel iMac running 10.5.  Should work fine from 
Tiger as well.  Never tried migration via ethernet.

Bob

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Re: Migration from G4 Tiger to new Mini Leopard

2009-04-04 Thread Gary D. 



On Apr 4, 3:56 am, Wendell Mendell  wrote:

> (a) Should I just go get the 800/400 Firewire cable and do it that  
> way?  Does that still work between Leopard and Tiger?
>
> (b) An Apple Help Desk person did not think it was possible to  
> migrate accounts from one computer to another (much to my  
> astonishment).  

I had exactly the same situation. Sonnet has a FireWire adapter from
800 to 400 that works great for me. May be cheaper than a cable. I
also considered the Ethernet route but found it too complicated.

And Migration Assistant worked also as advertised. Check the account
settings after running the assistant. The only problem I had was with
mail refusing to run. If you have that problem, go to:



for the solution.

Hope this helps.

Gary D.
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Migration from G4 Tiger to new Mini Leopard

2009-04-03 Thread Wendell Mendell 

I have a new Mini and want to migrate user accounts from my G4  
Sawtooth, running 10.4.11.  I did not have a special 800/400 Firewire  
cable, so I thought I would connect the two computers by ethernet.   
(I also have Airport.)  The Leopard Setup Assistant seems to demand  
that the old Mac also be running Leopard, which I do not want to do.   
(Technically, it is too slow; and I don't want to screw up anything  
in my wife's account.)  It asks that I type a code number into the  
Migration Assistant on the old computer, and the Tiger Migration  
Assistant doesn't know anything about that.

(a) Should I just go get the 800/400 Firewire cable and do it that  
way?  Does that still work between Leopard and Tiger?

(b) An Apple Help Desk person did not think it was possible to  
migrate accounts from one computer to another (much to my  
astonishment).  She only talked about transferring files.  I know how  
to transfer files.  If I were to just transfer files and not use the  
Migration Assistant, which ones should I bring over?  I know  
something about Libraries and such, but I would think that trying to  
move all the bits and pieces from one operating system to the other  
might have unintended consequences.  And then there are the  
Applications..

I look to your gestalt wisdom.

Wendell Mendell

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Re: New Mini

2009-01-09 Thread George Hozendorf 


On Jan 9, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Dan wrote:

>
> At 6:46 AM -0600 1/9/2009, George Hozendorf wrote:
>> Can I do a CCC to a second Mini without first installing the
>> software?
>
> Certainly!  ppc -> ppc, or x86 -> x86
>
> Just connect the two with a firewire cable, put the new Mini in
> target disk mode, and slap a clone of your running system onto it.
>
> - Dan.
> --  
> - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth

Thanks, Dan.  Worked perfectly.
>
>
> >


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Re: New Mini

2009-01-09 Thread Dan 

At 6:46 AM -0600 1/9/2009, George Hozendorf wrote:
>Can I do a CCC to a second Mini without first installing the 
>software?

Certainly!  ppc -> ppc, or x86 -> x86

Just connect the two with a firewire cable, put the new Mini in 
target disk mode, and slap a clone of your running system onto it.

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Re: New Mini

2009-01-09 Thread Jeff Bequette 

Jeff Bequette
jbeque...@tconl.com



On Jan 9, 2009, at 6:46 AM, George Hozendorf wrote:

>
> Can I do a CCC to a second Mini without first installing the
> software?  Need do as I don't have a second keyboard; only a second
> mouse.
>
>
> Mac OS X 10.5.6
> Mac Mini 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
> Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
>
>
Isn't the mini hot swappable for keyboards?
>


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New Mini

2009-01-09 Thread George Hozendorf 

Can I do a CCC to a second Mini without first installing the  
software?  Need do as I don't have a second keyboard; only a second  
mouse.


Mac OS X 10.5.6
Mac Mini 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM


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New Mini

2009-01-09 Thread George Hozendorf 
Can I do a CCC to a second Mini without first installing the  
software?  Need do as I don't have a second keyboard; only a second  
mouse.


Mac OS X 10.5.6
Mac Mini 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM


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