Re: Online backup ??
There is a program matching your inquiry, Crash Plan, and.you can back up to as many friends as you want. Or..use their website. My backup's backup it Time Machine. Cheerio On Jul 8, 8:07 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 1:08 PM -0700 7/8/2010, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Can't help but wonder if there's a market for software that will let two friends assign a drive to the other's backup. e.g. you and I both have a 1TB drive the other can use as BU. CarbonCopyCloner ChronoSync etc... And a very understanding ISP that doesn't mind when you upload that terabyte... Never underestimate the bandwidth of a stationwagon full of mag tapes. Or,,, to update that a bit... Never underestimate the bandwidth of an SUV full of HDs and/or DVDs. Or,,, if you live in Comcast territory... Never underestimate the bandwidth of a VW Bug full of printouts. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
On Jul 8, 8:48 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Check out Newegg i've been getting Hitachi 2TBs for $109. 00 about once a month whwn they throw a deal. My PM G5 has five of them. They have the Seagate LP ST32000542AS 2TB drive for $110 right now, but it has pretty terrible reviews.Then again, it also has the most reviews and folks with a bad experience are much more likely to review that folks with a good experience. So, I wonder, does this drive have an exceptional failure rate, or has Newegg just sold so many of them that they've managed to drum up a few score failures in the normal course of events? Generally, I like Seagates, because I assume that if they're giving a five year warranty, and every return blows their profit on one or two drives, then they'll put a little more effort into quality control. However, this particular model only has the three year warranty. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
On Jul 9, 2010, at 10:34 AM, t...@io.com wrote: On Jul 8, 8:48 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Check out Newegg i've been getting Hitachi 2TBs for $109. 00 about once a month whwn they throw a deal. My PM G5 has five of them. They have the Seagate LP ST32000542AS 2TB drive for $110 right now, but it has pretty terrible reviews.Then again, it also has the most reviews and folks with a bad experience are much more likely to review that folks with a good experience. So, I wonder, does this drive have an exceptional failure rate, or has Newegg just sold so many of them that they've managed to drum up a few score failures in the normal course of events? Generally, I like Seagates, because I assume that if they're giving a five year warranty, and every return blows their profit on one or two drives, then they'll put a little more effort into quality control. However, this particular model only has the three year warranty. Jeff Walther First Seagate and Hitachi have been very good to me warranty wise, All my total losses have been Maxtor and IBM. I do read reviews and make note of the complaint as to what machine is it on also the the problem. I can discount a lot of them because I can usually pick out the WindBloze users and the operator errors. I will buy the Seagates first if the price is right I stay away from WD because of an eSATA problem but I'm sure that's the WD enclosure. So I will buy the Seagates and Hitachis whoever is cheapest and 7200 RPM. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my PM G5 2.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Online backup ??
Hi All My Backup drives are becoming a bit of a chore to keep track of and offsite online backup is very tempting, However I'm a liitle afraid of some company deciding how my drives should be copied and exactly what access is afforded.. Does anyone use this service for Mac's and what company is a good one? I like the Time Machine method the best but CCC will boot so I redundantly do both. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
At 10:45 AM -0700 7/8/2010, john CARMONNE wrote: My Backup drives are becoming a bit of a chore to keep track of and offsite online backup is very tempting, However I'm a liitle afraid of some company deciding how my drives should be copied and exactly what access is afforded.. Does anyone use this service for Mac's and what company is a good one? I like the Time Machine method the best but CCC will boot so I redundantly do both. Offsite == Good. Just rotate your backup drives. Online == Bad. Your fears are spot on. There are NO NONE ZERO online backup services that are going to guarantee your privacy, do anything to protect your privacy in the face of a law enforcement inquiry, or a hacker with two brain cells, or even do much to guarantee your data integrity. Even if you pay the big bucks, all those risks are still present. If you google around for such services, read their TC. Mostly it's about you indemnifying *them* and them being totally NOT liable for anything! The above being said, there was some discussion/review of various services on TidBITS a while ago. Check it out. http://db.tidbits.com/ CCC's help has some directions for rotating volumes. Basically you set it to only check the volume name and not the volume's UUID also. That way today you plug in drive #1, and next week you use drive #2 - and as long as they have the same volume names on them, you're good to go. IMO, a friend's sock draw is the best offsite localle. Work out a trade dealio, you stash his and he stashes yours. To be really save tho, make sure his home is outside of your blast radius. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
Can't help but wonder if there's a market for software that will let two friends assign a drive to the other's backup. e.g. you and I both have a 1TB drive the other can use as BU. The software would need to encrypt and would need to be frugal with how it updated to keep bandwidth reasonable. Bad idea, I know. Nevermind. On Jul 8, 2:11 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Offsite == Good. Just rotate your backup drives. Online == Bad. Your fears are spot on. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:08 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Can't help but wonder if there's a market for software that will let two friends assign a drive to the other's backup. e.g. you and I both have a 1TB drive the other can use as BU. The software would need to encrypt and would need to be frugal with how it updated to keep bandwidth reasonable. Bad idea, I know. Nevermind. All it needs to be is a decent gui front-end to rsync, which is widely used for just this sort of off-site backup. The tools to do this are here, just in serous Unix-guru form. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
At 1:08 PM -0700 7/8/2010, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Can't help but wonder if there's a market for software that will let two friends assign a drive to the other's backup. e.g. you and I both have a 1TB drive the other can use as BU. CarbonCopyCloner ChronoSync etc... And a very understanding ISP that doesn't mind when you upload that terabyte... Never underestimate the bandwidth of a stationwagon full of mag tapes. Or,,, to update that a bit... Never underestimate the bandwidth of an SUV full of HDs and/or DVDs. Or,,, if you live in Comcast territory... Never underestimate the bandwidth of a VW Bug full of printouts. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
I never worry about third party stuff and other companies, ever. I just buy myself a 320GB 2.5 SATA drive, put it in a USB 2.0 SATA enclosure, and back up to there. Never once in my life will I trust backing up to the internet unless the computer it's backing up to on the internet is mine. I know there are good online backup companies out there, but I remember I used to use MediaFire (I made .DMG files of my system) and they decided to wipe out alot of drives, one of them was mine. I was a paying customer. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
Blast radius? What's that gonna be a data and secret exposure to other people? XD -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
CCC has served me pretty well since whenever i use time machine my video card draws lines all over the screen and freezes until I exit out of time machine. My suggestions are: 1) Never use online backup, because the storage volume could be thrown away or bought out by another company 2) Use a local disk or a network drive within your network to backup information, so you can take care of it and never have to worry about a company being bought out and moving to another country. 3) Delete old backups to save space unless you have certain files you need. Take out those files, and delete everything else. 4) When backing up, back it up to a Mac or a Linux computer, because if you back up to a PC, you'll wind up not being able to access the data next week through the network due to some blue screen of death crap. 5) Always buy the largest sized HDD your budget can allow, because backups can be sometimes larger in size than expected. If you can, be patient for the shipping process and look for an online deal. In fact, I found a 1TB external HDD from best buy online only for $99.99. Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: CCC has served me pretty well since whenever i use time machine my video card draws lines all over the screen and freezes until I exit out of time machine. My suggestions are: 1) Never use online backup, because the storage volume could be thrown away or bought out by another company 2) Use a local disk or a network drive within your network to backup information, so you can take care of it and never have to worry about a company being bought out and moving to another country. 3) Delete old backups to save space unless you have certain files you need. Take out those files, and delete everything else. 4) When backing up, back it up to a Mac or a Linux computer, because if you back up to a PC, you'll wind up not being able to access the data next week through the network due to some blue screen of death crap. 5) Always buy the largest sized HDD your budget can allow, because backups can be sometimes larger in size than expected. If you can, be patient for the shipping process and look for an online deal. In fact, I found a 1TB external HDD from best buy online only for $99.99. Check out Newegg i've been getting Hitachi 2TBs for $109. 00 about once a month whwn they throw a deal. My PM G5 has five of them. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
On Jul 8, 9:48 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Check out Newegg i've been getting Hitachi 2TBs for $109. 00 about once a month whwn they throw a deal. My PM G5 has five of them. I'll bite - What do you do with 10TB? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
At 8:16 PM -0400 7/8/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: 3) Delete old backups to save space unless you have certain files you need. Take out those files, and delete everything else. Backup vs Archive -- two different things. 5) Always buy the largest sized HDD your budget can allow, because backups can be sometimes larger in size than expected. In my experience, each volume on the backup drive needs to be the full size of the source plus enough extra room to hold a month or three worth of incremental data. On my general use machine, my incrementals are 200 to 500 MB/day. At 7:13 PM -0700 7/8/2010, JoeTaxpayer wrote: On Jul 8, 9:48 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Check out Newegg i've been getting Hitachi 2TBs for $109. 00 about once a month whwn they throw a deal. My PM G5 has five of them. I'll bite - What do you do with 10TB? Data is like gas. It expands to fill all available space. :) FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
