Re: Playing AAC+ on a Mac

2009-01-16 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Bruce Johnson
john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:


 On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:01 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

 I wonder if a current WMP for Mac would work with this or a similar
 plug in . That would be ironic, if WMP under OS X played AAC+ better
 than iTunes.

 Windows Media Player 9 is the latest, and predates AAC+.

 MS abandoned WMP years ago, and offer a free version of Flip4Mac in
 its place. http://tinyurl.com/8odbe2 and AAC+ is not on their list


 of supported audio codecs.

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Thanks Bruce, I checked the link and see what you are saying.

But the plugin at ; http://www.orban.com/plugin/ ( suggested by Chris
Barham ) says it will work in WMP 9.

I will have to use a machine at the university to try it with OS X.

Also of interest to me is that at the top of the list of AAC+ streams
at; http://www.tuner2.com/  which Chris cites is Folk Alley which
originates here! So I guess AAC+ is not as foreign around here as I
had assumed.

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Re: Playing AAC+ on a Mac

2009-01-15 Thread Dan

At 2:52 PM -0600 1/14/2009, Kris Tilford wrote:
On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Dan wrote:

   Are there other players for Macs that can handle AAC+?

Perhaps Windows iTunes can play AAC+?

but not the Mac version?  Apple marginalizing the Mac?grrr.

I have no AAC+ files. Do you have a sample or link to a stream?

Here's WRTI's - both mp3 and aac+

http://www.wrti.org/listenlive.html

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Re: Playing AAC+ on a Mac

2009-01-15 Thread Dan

At 4:03 PM -0500 1/14/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
A 20 minute check on versiontracker.com found nothing related to AAC+.
In fact oddly few audio players at all showed up there. Strange as in
the recent past I would have sworn there were many!

iTunes has crushed the market.  It's a shame really...  iTunes has 
some nice collection management features, but as an actual player 
it's terrible.

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Re: Playing AAC+ on a Mac

2009-01-15 Thread Dan

At 4:11 PM -0500 1/14/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
Wikipedia lists some Windows and mac OS X encoders and players.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HE-AAC#Support

FStream seems interesting.  Found a few AAC+ streams listed in it - 
they sound great.  Can't seem to get it to do the WRTI AAC+ stream 
tho - it just buffers forever.

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Re: Playing AAC+ on a Mac

2009-01-15 Thread Chris Barham
 At 4:11 PM -0500 1/14/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
 Wikipedia lists some Windows and mac OS X encoders and players.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HE-AAC#Support


Have a look at the AAC+ streams from Tuner2 http://www.tuner2.com/
http://www.tuner2.com/

They recommend a Windows Media Player plugin and Flash player :
http://www.orban.com/plugin/

Chris

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Re: Playing AAC+ on a Mac

2009-01-15 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com wrote:



 At 4:11 PM -0500 1/14/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
 Wikipedia lists some Windows and mac OS X encoders and players.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HE-AAC#Support

 Have a look at the AAC+ streams from Tuner2 http://www.tuner2.com/
 They recommend a Windows Media Player plugin and Flash player
 : http://www.orban.com/plugin/


I have the old WMP on my PPC Macs under OS 9 from 5 years ago for
playing early videos. It worked quite well, surprisingly.

I wonder if a current WMP for Mac would work with this or a similar
plug in . That would be ironic, if WMP under OS X played AAC+ better
than iTunes.

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Playing AAC+ on a Mac

2009-01-14 Thread Dan

Many radio stations are dropping mp3 and aac format streams, in favor 
of AAC+ (HE-AAC) - a five year old standard that provides better 
fidelity over lower bandwidth.

iTunes doesn't support AAC+ !

VLC plays it, but crashes or hangs after about 5 mins on both my 
Smurf and PB G4 (OS X 10.4.11).

Are there other players for Macs that can handle AAC+?

Thanks!
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Re: Playing AAC+ on a Mac

2009-01-14 Thread Kris Tilford

On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Dan wrote:

 Are there other players for Macs that can handle AAC+?

This article implies that iTunes for PC handles AAC+ differently that  
iTunes for OS X:

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t56050.html

Perhaps Windows iTunes can play AAC+?

I have no AAC+ files. Do you have a sample or link to a stream?

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Re: Playing AAC+ on a Mac

2009-01-14 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:

 Many radio stations are dropping mp3 and aac format streams, in favor
 of AAC+ (HE-AAC) - a five year old standard that provides better
 fidelity over lower bandwidth.

 iTunes doesn't support AAC+ !

 VLC plays it, but crashes or hangs after about 5 mins on both my
 Smurf and PB G4 (OS X 10.4.11).

 Are there other players for Macs that can handle AAC+?



What player are the radio stations using?

I can ask the student station here, but they may not use the AAC+ format.

I think they use iTunes for playback. Not sure since a new a;; digital
studio was built last year and I haven't looked in on their new
operation.


A 20 minute check on versiontracker.com found nothing related to AAC+.
In fact oddly few audio players at all showed up there. Strange as in
the recent past I would have sworn there were many!

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Re: Playing AAC+ on a Mac

2009-01-14 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:

 Many radio stations are dropping mp3 and aac format streams, in favor
 of AAC+ (HE-AAC) - a five year old standard that provides better
 fidelity over lower bandwidth.

 iTunes doesn't support AAC+ !

 VLC plays it, but crashes or hangs after about 5 mins on both my
 Smurf and PB G4 (OS X 10.4.11).

 Are there other players for Macs that can handle AAC+?

__


Wikipedia lists some Windows and mac OS X encoders and players.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HE-AAC#Support

The article cites high ratings for the format in terms of perceived quality.

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