Re: Question about Power Mac G3/266 tabletop

2010-09-26 Thread Ted Treen



 Original Message 
Subject:Re: Question about Power Mac G3/266 tabletop
Date:   Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:43:36 +0100
From:   Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com
Reply-To:   ted.tr...@btinternet.com
To: Paul Cefola paulc...@buffalo.edu



Paul Cefola wrote:

Gents,

I have a G3/266 tabletop which is running Mac OS 8.5.1.   This machine 
was purchased by me during the fall of 1997.  There were on the order 
of 20 system extensions that loaded during the start-up process..


The machine has some old files on it which are valuable to me -- both 
for my consulting work and also personal data.


Recently I had the G3 keyboard go bad with the symptom that the Mac 
froze after the extensions started to load.


Currently I have replaced the keyboard and have gotten the machine to 
boot while holding the shift key down (disabling the extensions).


Since I have not changed the extensions for a long time, I suspect 
that I corrupted one of the extensions.


My question is what do i do next to return this machine to a usable 
state?


I am writing this on a Windows Vista machine.

Thanks.

Paul Cefola

Well Paul, the first think to do is to make backup copies of those 
valuable files. Then, just to be sure, and to satisfy any feelings of 
paranoiac tendencies, make another backup.


Put the backups somewhere very safe!!!

Now, IIRC from my pre-OSX days, the way of identifying rogue extensions 
was to start up with shift held down, as you did, and look in the system 
folder for a folder called 'Extensions (Disabled)' or something very 
similar.  Drag that to the desktop, rename it to 'Suspect Extensions' 
and then start up as normal. The system will automatically recreate an 
empty folder in the System folder called 'Extensions (Disabled)'.


Adding the extensions in the 'Suspect Extensions' back one by one (just 
drop them onto the System folder;- the OS will recognise them as 
Extensions  offer to put them in the 'Extensions' folder) and 
restarting each time will generally show which one is causing the grief.


This is tedious, but you can instead add half the suspect extensions - 
if it freezes, you can be fairly sure the villain is in that half. 
Restart with shift again, and just the ones you've added should then be 
in the 'Extensions (Disabled)' folder.


Doing it in 'halves' can be misleading in the rare possibility you've 
got more than one extension gone bad.  Also be aware that OS8  OS9 
treat fonts as system extensions, and a corrupt font can a) give all 
sorts of nasty problems, and b) be the devil's own job to track down.


Keep us informed  ask again if there's anything you're not sure of.

HTH,

Ted

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Re: Question about Power Mac G3/266 tabletop

2010-09-26 Thread John Markowitz

On Sep 26, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Ted Treen wrote:

 
 
  Original Message 
 Subject:  Re: Question about Power Mac G3/266 tabletop
 Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:43:36 +0100
 From: Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com
 Reply-To: ted.tr...@btinternet.com
 To:   Paul Cefola paulc...@buffalo.edu
 
 
 
 Paul Cefola wrote:
 Gents,
 
 I have a G3/266 tabletop which is running Mac OS 8.5.1.   This machine was 
 purchased by me during the fall of 1997.  There were on the order of 20 
 system extensions that loaded during the start-up process..
 
 The machine has some old files on it which are valuable to me -- both for my 
 consulting work and also personal data.
 
 Recently I had the G3 keyboard go bad with the symptom that the Mac froze 
 after the extensions started to load.
 
 Currently I have replaced the keyboard and have gotten the machine to boot 
 while holding the shift key down (disabling the extensions).
 
 Since I have not changed the extensions for a long time, I suspect that I 
 corrupted one of the extensions.
 
 My question is what do i do next to return this machine to a usable state?
 
 I am writing this on a Windows Vista machine.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Paul Cefola
 

Maybe you already did this but  would first try to boot with the shift key 
opt key and command key held down when the extensions off window shows let 
off the shift key and keep the opt command keys down till it asks to rebuild 
the desk top. If you're lucky this will straighten it out, otherwise Ted's 
method is the best way to go and when it's OK make an extra extension set copy 
just in case.


John M
Anaheim OC
dadbe...@gmail.com

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