Re: SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver
On Jun 15, 6:43 pm, Stewie de Young stewies...@hotmail.com wrote: The only cards that I'm aware of that have the PPC Mac boot ROM are the Firmtek cards and perhaps the Acard? Prices are roughly what I have gleaned from the 'net. Acard AEC-6280M 2-Channel PCI to IDE Host Adapter : $70 US Mac OS8.5,OS9 and OSX Acard AEC-6293M 2-Channel PCI to IDE+SATA Host Adapter : $80 US Acard AEC-6290M 2-Channel PCI to IDE+SATA Host Adapter : $80 US Also the: AEC-6890M 2-Channel PCI to IDE+SATA Host Adapter with built-in RAID capability. AEC-6880M 2-channel PCI to IDE Host Adapter with built in RAID capability. AEC-6895M 4-channel PCI to IDE+SATA Host Adapter with built in RAID capability. AEC-6885M 4-channel PCI to IDE Host Adapter with built in RAID capability. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver
Do you have to install drivers for a silicon image card? Where can you find drivers? I saw this card at newegg for $19: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132007 It has a Silicon Image 3512 chipset, but I haven't been able to find OS X drivers for it. On their website they only have drivers for the 3124 chipset. -sri On Jun 16, 12:55 am, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 16, 2010, at 12:28 AM, mlsimmons wrote: I was primarily looking at large storage, not necessarily bootable. Then go for a Silicon Image chipset card, they're reasonable on eBay or elsewhere, and have good drivers for OS X. If you need bootable, I recommend Firmtek. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver
On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:53 AM, mlsimm...@aol.com wrote: CompUSA lists a Masscool XWT-RC061 3 Port SATA PCI Card - 2 internal SATA, External SATA, 1.5Gbps Support for $20 ---it says The board provides a 32bit, 33/66 MHz PCI interface on the host side, fully compliant Serial ATA ports on the device side to access Serial ATA mobile storage devices and standard media such as Hard Disk drive, floppy disk drive, CD-ROM, CD-RW, DVD, DVD-ROM, etc... 3 Serial ATA port (two internal and one external), Has anyone had any luck with using this or any other generic cards on a quicksilver running Tiger This card appears to have significant problems in Windows, so it's very unlikely it will perform well in OS X. It appears to use a VIA chipset. The biggest problem I foresee on a Quicksilver is that the card won't be bootable, you need a card with Mac boot ROM, so most PC cards that work under OS X are strictly for storage only, they can't boot under normal conditions. This card seems to be a RAID card, meaning that individual HDs aren't useable as separate drives. I don't think this is a good solution for a PPC Mac. The only cards that I'm aware of that have the PPC Mac boot ROM are the Firmtek cards and perhaps the Acard? There are cards like that Sonnet that are rebranded Firmtek cards, there may be others, but be sure you can boot IF you need to boot. If you don't need to boot, Silicon Image cards have Mac support and are very reasonably priced, but they won't boot on a PPC Mac. I'm not sure, there may be a way to set a boot flag in Open Firmware to specify a non-bootable PCI card as the boot device, but this is something I've never done, but I am aware that it's within the realm of possibility. This would enable non-bootable cards such as the Silicon Image if possible. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver
That is *NOT* going to work. Illirik Smirnov On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:53 AM, mlsimm...@aol.com wrote: CompUSA lists a Masscool XWT-RC061 3 Port SATA PCI Card - 2 internal SATA, External SATA, 1.5Gbps Support for $20 ---it says The board provides a 32bit, 33/66 MHz PCI interface on the host side, fully compliant Serial ATA ports on the device side to access Serial ATA mobile storage devices and standard media such as Hard Disk drive, floppy disk drive, CD-ROM, CD-RW, DVD, DVD-ROM, etc... 3 Serial ATA port (two internal and one external), Has anyone had any luck with using this or any other generic cards on a quicksilver running Tiger This card appears to have significant problems in Windows, so it's very unlikely it will perform well in OS X. It appears to use a VIA chipset. The biggest problem I foresee on a Quicksilver is that the card won't be bootable, you need a card with Mac boot ROM, so most PC cards that work under OS X are strictly for storage only, they can't boot under normal conditions. This card seems to be a RAID card, meaning that individual HDs aren't useable as separate drives. I don't think this is a good solution for a PPC Mac. The only cards that I'm aware of that have the PPC Mac boot ROM are the Firmtek cards and perhaps the Acard? There are cards like that Sonnet that are rebranded Firmtek cards, there may be others, but be sure you can boot IF you need to boot. If you don't need to boot, Silicon Image cards have Mac support and are very reasonably priced, but they won't boot on a PPC Mac. I'm not sure, there may be a way to set a boot flag in Open Firmware to specify a non-bootable PCI card as the boot device, but this is something I've never done, but I am aware that it's within the realm of possibility. This would enable non-bootable cards such as the Silicon Image if possible. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver
That is NOT going to work. Illirik Smirnov On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:53 AM, mlsimm...@aol.com wrote: CompUSA lists a Masscool XWT-RC061 3 Port SATA PCI Card - 2 internal SATA, External SATA, 1.5Gbps Support for $20 ---it says The board provides a 32bit, 33/66 MHz PCI interface on the host side, fully compliant Serial ATA ports on the device side to access Serial ATA mobile storage devices and standard media such as Hard Disk drive, floppy disk drive, CD-ROM, CD-RW, DVD, DVD-ROM, etc... 3 Serial ATA port (two internal and one external), Has anyone had any luck with using this or any other generic cards on a quicksilver running Tiger This card appears to have significant problems in Windows, so it's very unlikely it will perform well in OS X. It appears to use a VIA chipset. The biggest problem I foresee on a Quicksilver is that the card won't be bootable, you need a card with Mac boot ROM, so most PC cards that work under OS X are strictly for storage only, they can't boot under normal conditions. This card seems to be a RAID card, meaning that individual HDs aren't useable as separate drives. I don't think this is a good solution for a PPC Mac. The only cards that I'm aware of that have the PPC Mac boot ROM are the Firmtek cards and perhaps the Acard? There are cards like that Sonnet that are rebranded Firmtek cards, there may be others, but be sure you can boot IF you need to boot. If you don't need to boot, Silicon Image cards have Mac support and are very reasonably priced, but they won't boot on a PPC Mac. I have to agree with Illrik and Kris here. Most PCI cards that have the Via or Ali chipset whether it is a USB2.0 , SATA or IDE card are problematical on the Mac and cause issues like sleep problems or i the case of this SATA card just won't be recognised. These cards below are known to work on a Mac and most if not all are bootable with a connected HD and correct OS version. Prices are roughly what I have gleaned from the 'net. My preference is for the SeriTek/1S2 as I have two in different G4s and they work great with attached internal drives. Others like the Sonnet Tempo SATA X4P have eSATA external ports only but those attached hard drives are bootable FirmTek SeriTek/1S2 : two port internal $64 US FirmTek SeriTek/1V4 : $ 109 US : Sonnet's Tempo™ SATA X4i 4-port : $178 US Sonnet Tempo SATA X4P PCI and PCI-X 4 port external eSata only - no internal SATA ports $ 299 US SIIG Serial ATA PCI card : $59 US 2 channel SIIG SC-SA4011 4-Channel PCI to SATA Host Adapter : $65 US Acard AEC-6280M 2-Channel PCI to IDE Host Adapter : $70 US Mac OS8.5,OS9 and OSX Acard AEC-6293M 2-Channel PCI to IDE+SATA Host Adapter : $80 US Acard AEC-6290M 2-Channel PCI to IDE+SATA Host Adapter : $80 US Stewie _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver
thanks for all the inputs- I was primarily looking at large storage, not necessarily bootable (but something to obviously consider that I wouldn't have without these responses ). SATA appears to be the least expensive/most available hard drives On Jun 15, 4:43 pm, Stewie de Young stewies...@hotmail.com wrote: That is NOT going to work. Illirik Smirnov On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:53 AM, mlsimm...@aol.com wrote: CompUSA lists a Masscool XWT-RC061 3 Port SATA PCI Card - 2 internal SATA, External SATA, 1.5Gbps Support for $20 ---it says The board provides a 32bit, 33/66 MHz PCI interface on the host side, fully compliant Serial ATA ports on the device side to access Serial ATA mobile storage devices and standard media such as Hard Disk drive, floppy disk drive, CD-ROM, CD-RW, DVD, DVD-ROM, etc... 3 Serial ATA port (two internal and one external), Has anyone had any luck with using this or any other generic cards on a quicksilver running Tiger This card appears to have significant problems in Windows, so it's very unlikely it will perform well in OS X. It appears to use a VIA chipset. The biggest problem I foresee on a Quicksilver is that the card won't be bootable, you need a card with Mac boot ROM, so most PC cards that work under OS X are strictly for storage only, they can't boot under normal conditions. This card seems to be a RAID card, meaning that individual HDs aren't useable as separate drives. I don't think this is a good solution for a PPC Mac. The only cards that I'm aware of that have the PPC Mac boot ROM are the Firmtek cards and perhaps the Acard? There are cards like that Sonnet that are rebranded Firmtek cards, there may be others, but be sure you can boot IF you need to boot. If you don't need to boot, Silicon Image cards have Mac support and are very reasonably priced, but they won't boot on a PPC Mac. I have to agree with Illrik and Kris here. Most PCI cards that have the Via or Ali chipset whether it is a USB2.0 , SATA or IDE card are problematical on the Mac and cause issues like sleep problems or i the case of this SATA card just won't be recognised. These cards below are known to work on a Mac and most if not all are bootable with a connected HD and correct OS version. Prices are roughly what I have gleaned from the 'net. My preference is for the SeriTek/1S2 as I have two in different G4s and they work great with attached internal drives. Others like the Sonnet Tempo SATA X4P have eSATA external ports only but those attached hard drives are bootable FirmTek SeriTek/1S2 : two port internal $64 US FirmTek SeriTek/1V4 : $ 109 US : Sonnet's Tempo™ SATA X4i 4-port : $178 US Sonnet Tempo SATA X4P PCI and PCI-X 4 port external eSata only - no internal SATA ports $ 299 US SIIG Serial ATA PCI card : $59 US 2 channel SIIG SC-SA4011 4-Channel PCI to SATA Host Adapter : $65 US Acard AEC-6280M 2-Channel PCI to IDE Host Adapter : $70 US Mac OS8.5,OS9 and OSX Acard AEC-6293M 2-Channel PCI to IDE+SATA Host Adapter : $80 US Acard AEC-6290M 2-Channel PCI to IDE+SATA Host Adapter : $80 US Stewie _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job sitehttp://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver
On Jun 16, 2010, at 12:28 AM, mlsimmons wrote: I was primarily looking at large storage, not necessarily bootable. Then go for a Silicon Image chipset card, they're reasonable on eBay or elsewhere, and have good drivers for OS X. If you need bootable, I recommend Firmtek. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
