Re: Anyone know anything about IOPCI2PCIBridge issues?
From: insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 18 December, 2008 8:28:54 PM Subject: Re: Anyone know anything about IOPCI2PCIBridge issues? On Dec 18, 2008, at 2:15 PM, nestamicky wrote: insightinmind wrote: On Dec 18, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 17, 2008, at 9:00 PM, insightinmind wrote: 20:59:17 M-Å-S configd[14]: InterfaceNamer: PowerMac3,5/MacRISC2PE/ p...@f200/AppleMacRiscPCI/pci-bri...@13/IOPCI2PCIBridge/ firew...@1/ AppleFWOHCI/IOFireWireController/IOFireWireLocalNode [1] This is waiting on a Firewire device, either the FW interface in the Sonnet card, or an external device that's acting up. If a onboard FW connected external FW HD is not turned on, could it still cause problems? The power supply to it is on, but the drive is not on. I will say yes. Although the Firewire unit is not turned on, as long as it is connected juice flows through it. And I think this is causing the machine to think it ought to be using it. Obviously it cant because there is not enough power from the unit. Haven't run enough tests, as they are mostly Restarts and Cold Boots ... but I have unplugged the external OWC Elite 911 bridged FW drive from the onboard FW port ... no problems thus far like before. I saw on Apple's Discussions (once I found Discussions again ... someone redesigned their site ... again) that several people are having trouble with external FW drives they hadn't had problems with before under 10.5.6. New design for FW under 10.5.6? Anywhere we can go to see what's actually being done under the hood? Coupled with the IOPCI2PCIBridge indicating FW ... I suspect my drive being partially connected / powered is a prime candidate for being a troublemaker. Funny ... when connected to the Mac, but not the wall wart power supply, the power up lite comes on if I turn on the switch, but the disk won't mount on the Desktop of course because its not spinning. Perhaps with the wall wart on, and the drive off, it now thinks its supposed to be there? but isn't. Testing continues ... Bill Connelly Bill, I use an external 120GB Formac firewire portable drive for backup. I use SuperDuper to do an daily incremental of my Dual 2.5G5 at work, so its disk is permanently cloned, and each night, I copy the Work folder to the HD of my own dual 2.0G5 at home. The drive has no external power supply, and I have no trouble running files from it or even booting from it. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Anyone know anything about IOPCI2PCIBridge issues?
On Dec 17, 2008, at 9:00 PM, insightinmind wrote: 20:59:17 M-Å-S configd[14]: InterfaceNamer: PowerMac3,5/MacRISC2PE/ p...@f200/AppleMacRiscPCI/pci-bri...@13/IOPCI2PCIBridge/firew...@1/ AppleFWOHCI/IOFireWireController/IOFireWireLocalNode [1] This is waiting on a Firewire device, either the FW interface in the Sonnet card, or an external device that's acting up. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Anyone know anything about IOPCI2PCIBridge issues?
On Dec 18, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 17, 2008, at 9:00 PM, insightinmind wrote: 20:59:17 M-Å-S configd[14]: InterfaceNamer: PowerMac3,5/MacRISC2PE/ p...@f200/AppleMacRiscPCI/pci-bri...@13/IOPCI2PCIBridge/ firew...@1/ AppleFWOHCI/IOFireWireController/IOFireWireLocalNode [1] This is waiting on a Firewire device, either the FW interface in the Sonnet card, or an external device that's acting up. If a onboard FW connected external FW HD is not turned on, could it still cause problems? The power supply to it is on, but the drive is not on. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Anyone know anything about IOPCI2PCIBridge issues?
On Dec 18, 2008, at 8:58 AM, insightinmind wrote: If a onboard FW connected external FW HD is not turned on, could it still cause problems? The power supply to it is on, but the drive is not on. Maybe. Try disconnecting it and seeing if you get the same issues. This can also be caused by failing FW interfaces. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Anyone know anything about IOPCI2PCIBridge issues?
insightinmind wrote: On Dec 18, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 17, 2008, at 9:00 PM, insightinmind wrote: 20:59:17 M-Å-S configd[14]: InterfaceNamer: PowerMac3,5/MacRISC2PE/ p...@f200/AppleMacRiscPCI/pci-bri...@13/IOPCI2PCIBridge/ firew...@1/ AppleFWOHCI/IOFireWireController/IOFireWireLocalNode [1] This is waiting on a Firewire device, either the FW interface in the Sonnet card, or an external device that's acting up. If a onboard FW connected external FW HD is not turned on, could it still cause problems? The power supply to it is on, but the drive is not on. I will say yes. Although the Firewire unit is not turned on, as long as it is connected juice flows through it. And I think this is causing the machine to think it ought to be using it. Obviously it cant because there is not enough power from the unit. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Anyone know anything about IOPCI2PCIBridge issues?
On Dec 18, 2008, at 2:15 PM, nestamicky wrote: insightinmind wrote: On Dec 18, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 17, 2008, at 9:00 PM, insightinmind wrote: 20:59:17 M-Å-S configd[14]: InterfaceNamer: PowerMac3,5/ MacRISC2PE/ p...@f200/AppleMacRiscPCI/pci-bri...@13/IOPCI2PCIBridge/ firew...@1/ AppleFWOHCI/IOFireWireController/IOFireWireLocalNode [1] This is waiting on a Firewire device, either the FW interface in the Sonnet card, or an external device that's acting up. If a onboard FW connected external FW HD is not turned on, could it still cause problems? The power supply to it is on, but the drive is not on. I will say yes. Although the Firewire unit is not turned on, as long as it is connected juice flows through it. And I think this is causing the machine to think it ought to be using it. Obviously it cant because there is not enough power from the unit. Haven't run enough tests, as they are mostly Restarts and Cold Boots ... but I have unplugged the external OWC Elite 911 bridged FW drive from the onboard FW port ... no problems thus far like before. I saw on Apple's Discussions (once I found Discussions again ... someone redesigned their site ... again) that several people are having trouble with external FW drives they hadn't had problems with before under 10.5.6. New design for FW under 10.5.6? Anywhere we can go to see what's actually being done under the hood? Coupled with the IOPCI2PCIBridge indicating FW ... I suspect my drive being partially connected / powered is a prime candidate for being a troublemaker. Funny ... when connected to the Mac, but not the wall wart power supply, the power up lite comes on if I turn on the switch, but the disk won't mount on the Desktop of course because its not spinning. Perhaps with the wall wart on, and the drive off, it now thinks its supposed to be there? but isn't. Testing continues ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Anyone know anything about IOPCI2PCIBridge issues?
On Dec 18, 2008, at 1:28 PM, insightinmind wrote: Coupled with the IOPCI2PCIBridge indicating FW ... I suspect my drive being partially connected / powered is a prime candidate for being a troublemaker. Funny ... when connected to the Mac, but not the wall wart power supply, the power up lite comes on if I turn on the switch, but the disk won't mount on the Desktop of course because its not spinning. Perhaps with the wall wart on, and the drive off, it now thinks its supposed to be there? but isn't. That sounds about right. FW, like USB will provide power; my 2.5 FW drive is bus powered. I wonder if it's not waiting for the unpowered drive/powered interface to respond before it moves on. If that's the case, this is a non-error error. It's just waiting, then it times out. In that case this should not be related to any further problems with the system. Many things that seem ominous in the boot log aren't really ominous at all. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Anyone know anything about IOPCI2PCIBridge issues?
On Dec 18, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 18, 2008, at 1:28 PM, insightinmind wrote: Coupled with the IOPCI2PCIBridge indicating FW ... I suspect my drive being partially connected / powered is a prime candidate for being a troublemaker. Funny ... when connected to the Mac, but not the wall wart power supply, the power up lite comes on if I turn on the switch, but the disk won't mount on the Desktop of course because its not spinning. Perhaps with the wall wart on, and the drive off, it now thinks its supposed to be there? but isn't. That sounds about right. FW, like USB will provide power; my 2.5 FW drive is bus powered. I wonder if it's not waiting for the unpowered drive/powered interface to respond before it moves on. If that's the case, this is a non-error error. It's just waiting, then it times out. In that case this should not be related to any further problems with the system. Many things that seem ominous in the boot log aren't really ominous at all. Seems to be the case here, too. The non-ominous-ness. Things appeared cleaner after disconnecting at the FW port ... but later on, the M-Audio Delta Helper seems to have frozen the Startup, after functioning ok for awhile. I'm tired of this. Need to put it aside for awhile. I did startup from my Panther partition ... except that the Rosewill 10/100/1000 wasn't recognized, things looked ok ... nothing special. Have a Forum Thread in at M-Audio as well ... http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?p=18120#post18120 Thanks for all the help so far. Wondering why things seem so jumbled lately ... maybe I should back off to 10.5.4? Dramatic Pause ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
