Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 20, 8:51 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: That's nothing. I have MS Word docs from 20 years ago that MS Word 2011 does not open. File formats change ... just be glad you're not NASA and have to decipher 45 year old data tapes starting by reconstructing the tape mechanism BEFORE trying to decipher the data! Hmm, sounds like Binary, been there;-) I'm a CNC programmer. Still have 5.25 floppy's from my IIe. Not too hard to deal with, but the NASA tapes likely encode characters using EBCDIC instead of ASCII. Unless there was something even more obscure that predated EBCDIC. When I was at NASA in the 80s, and needed to read data on tapes, it was in EBCDIC because up to that point, NASA was an IBM house as far as computers went. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 19, 11:29 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:12 PM, rogerd095 wrote: On Jan 18, 1:56 pm, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: I run AppleWorks 6 on my G4. You don't need OS9. Conversely, AppleWorks runs perfectly well on OS 9. You don't need OS X! Realistically, yes you do. While it's not as dire as it used to be before the advent of Classila, OS 9 is still almost useless on the modern web. Apologies for any misunderstanding. For the sake of clarity, I should perhaps have finished my post by adding 'to run AppleWorks.' Which platform you prefer is a matter of choice. It's just a pity that AppleWorks 6 seems quite a bit less polished than ClarisWorks 5.0 - or even v.4.0, for that matter. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
Realistically, yes you do. While it's not as dire as it used to be before the advent of Classila, OS 9 is still almost useless on the modern web. Apologies for any misunderstanding. For the sake of clarity, I should perhaps have finished my post by adding 'to run AppleWorks.' Which platform you prefer is a matter of choice. It's just a pity that AppleWorks 6 seems quite a bit less polished than ClarisWorks 5.0 - or even v.4.0, for that matter. AppleWorks 6 is missing a couple of things in the earlier Clais products but to have an application that runs from OS 8 to 10.6.6 is real OK in this town. I still run spread sheets I made twenty years ago and iWork doesn't even try to open them, what's with that? Claris, AppleWorks an iWork are all Apple products. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
That's nothing. I have MS Word docs from 20 years ago that MS Word 2011 does not open. File formats change ... just be glad you're not NASA and have to decipher 45 year old data tapes starting by reconstructing the tape mechanism BEFORE trying to decipher the data! -- Bruce On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:11 AM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I still run spread sheets I made twenty years ago and iWork doesn't even try to open them, what's with that? Claris, AppleWorks an iWork are all Apple products. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:33 AM, rogerd095 rogerd...@googlemail.com wrote: Which platform you prefer is a matter of choice. It's just a pity that AppleWorks 6 seems quite a bit less polished than ClarisWorks 5.0 - or even v.4.0, for that matter. Or the late lamented still-missed Claris spreadsheet which was based on WingZ. -- Bruce -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: File formats change ... just be glad you're not NASA and have to decipher 45 year old data tapes starting by reconstructing the tape mechanism BEFORE trying to decipher the data! Thats why NASA was shut down :) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: That's nothing. I have MS Word docs from 20 years ago that MS Word 2011 does not open. File formats change ... just be glad you're not NASA and have to decipher 45 year old data tapes starting by reconstructing the tape mechanism BEFORE trying to decipher the data! -- Bruce Hmm, sounds like Binary, been there;-) I'm a CNC programmer. Still have 5.25 floppy's from my IIe. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 20, 10:01 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 20, 2011, at 7:51 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Hmm, sounds like Binary, been there;-) Binary data, with fun things like different endedness and things like 14 bit bytes, etc. However this old data is proving invaluable, a re-analysis of old Pioneer data is solving some mysteries about the solar system: http://www.space.com/3608-newfound-data-solve-nasa-great-gravity-myst... And re-analysis of Viking data changed some findings 180 degrees: http://news.discovery.com/space/viking-mars-organics-experiment.html (Of course, this analysis wouldn't have been possible without the additional knowledge we've learned from the magnificent Mars Rover programs which show indisputably that NASA's still able to conjure up the Right Stuff. Probes with 90-day mission expected lifetimes and one is STILL working, SEVEN YEARS later.) That's 'cause they run 68K processors - never shoulda switched... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 17, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote: Hi Group, I would like to know what replaces Appleworks. I am using G4 G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11 I do not want to put OS9 on them. Wm AppleWorks 6 runs on OS 9 all the way through !0.6.6. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 18, 1:56 pm, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: I run AppleWorks 6 on my G4. You don't need OS9. Conversely, AppleWorks runs perfectly well on OS 9. You don't need OS X! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
I run AppleWorks 6 on my G4. You don't need OS9. Larry Hi Group, I would like to know what replaces Appleworks. I am using G4 G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11 I do not want to put OS9 on them. Wm -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
IMO Appleworks is better than iWork. On Jan 17, 2011, at 10:42 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Yersinia wrote: Appleworks rocks, YEAH!! Wow, didn't know it would work with Leopard or on a Macintel. I've been running 6.2.9 since I was on OS 9, and kept it when I got Tiger but I'm still with my PPCs (now running 10.4.11 on the Quicksilver 867 and iBook G3/800). It runs on Snow Leopard on my MacBook Pro. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
iWork? I can run Appleworks on my MacBook Pro though. It doesn't even need Rosetta! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On 2011/01/17 18:44, Wm. Arnold so eloquently wrote: I would like to know what replaces Appleworks. I am using G4 G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11 AppleWorks will run just fine on your PPCs running Tiger. The alternatives are iWork ($79), Office ($150), or NeoOffice (free). Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
I think there is an OS X version of OpenOffice. On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/01/17 18:44, Wm. Arnold so eloquently wrote: I would like to know what replaces Appleworks. I am using G4 G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11 AppleWorks will run just fine on your PPCs running Tiger. The alternatives are iWork ($79), Office ($150), or NeoOffice (free). Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On 1/17/11 7:44 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote: Hi Group, I would like to know what replaces Appleworks. I am using G4 G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11 I do not want to put OS9 on them. Wm I have a G5 2.5 dualie running 10.5.8 and I am currently using Appleworks 6.2.4 and have been for years with no problems. Dan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 17, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote: Hi Group, I would like to know what replaces Appleworks. I am using G4 G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11 I do not want to put OS9 on them. Wm Nothing replaces Appleworks :-( :-(:-( :-(!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On 1/17/11 9:43 PM, John Callahan of jcalla...@stny.rr.com sent On Jan 17, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote: Hi Group, I would like to know what replaces Appleworks. I am using G4 G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11 I do not want to put OS9 on them. Wm Nothing replaces Appleworks :-( :-(:-( :-(!!! Here, here! AppleWorks rocks! Though I am trying hard to get used to Pages' syntax (not easy, imho). I have used AppleWorks 6.2.9 in Leopard for quite some time now, both PPC and Intel. Have not tried it in Snow Leopard. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On 1/17/11 10:57 PM, Dana Collins wrote: On 1/17/11 9:43 PM, John Callahan of jcalla...@stny.rr.com sent On Jan 17, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote: Hi Group, I would like to know what replaces Appleworks. I am using G4 G5 Power PC's with OSX10.4.11 I do not want to put OS9 on them. Wm Nothing replaces Appleworks :-( :-(:-( :-(!!! Here, here! AppleWorks rocks! Though I am trying hard to get used to Pages' syntax (not easy, imho). I have used AppleWorks 6.2.9 in Leopard for quite some time now, both PPC and Intel. Have not tried it in Snow Leopard. Appleworks rocks, YEAH!! Wow, didn't know it would work with Leopard or on a Macintel. I've been running 6.2.9 since I was on OS 9, and kept it when I got Tiger but I'm still with my PPCs (now running 10.4.11 on the Quicksilver 867 and iBook G3/800). ~Yersinia. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Appleworks problem
On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Yersinia wrote: Appleworks rocks, YEAH!! Wow, didn't know it would work with Leopard or on a Macintel. I've been running 6.2.9 since I was on OS 9, and kept it when I got Tiger but I'm still with my PPCs (now running 10.4.11 on the Quicksilver 867 and iBook G3/800). It runs on Snow Leopard on my MacBook Pro. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
