Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
On Jan 1, 2009, at 3:28 PM, insightinmind wrote: Did not yet zap the pram, etc. because things be fine with the old chip. I believe every time your replace a RAM stick, you need to zap the PRAM. No you don't. -- Bruce Johnson No matter where you go, there you are, B. Banzai --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 1, 2009, at 3:28 PM, insightinmind wrote: Did not yet zap the pram, etc. because things be fine with the old chip. I believe every time your replace a RAM stick, you need to zap the PRAM. No you don't. That's good to know. Nevertheless, doesn't that force a RAM Check at Startup in PPCs if you do? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
On Jan 1, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: Thanks Dan, Wallace, McGrude ~ Yanked the stick, put old one back in, Mac worked fine for several days. Just reinstalled the stick, made sure well seated, made sure no dust with newly purchased air can. In two minutes, Firefox crashed yet again. D/l and ran Applejack Memtest, it said FAILURE many times, but I can't find the Applejack.log. Would like to read the specifics. Where is it? Also found ye olde Apple Hardware Test and that said Error Code mem_/ 2/4. Did not yet zap the pram, etc. because things be fine with the old chip. I believe every time your replace a RAM stick, you need to zap the PRAM. Did not do the Qtip with Isopropyl Alcohol yet (what is this, a Ninendo64?) but if you guys think I should do it, okay. Somehow I think it is contacting all right, or the Tests would have remarked absence, but what do I know. Is it time to contact OWC for a replacement or is there something else to do? Oh, right, look in System logs. But are the two failures in the memory hardware tests definitive? Thanks and Happy New Year, IMO, If you replaced the suspected bad stick, with one that works for awhile (in the same RAM slot tested with Memtest), then put the suspected bad one back in the same RAM slot, and Memtest fails, I'd say it was a bad stick. OWC might test it again ... but get them to replace it, as long as you have its serial number, you're good for replacement, AFAIK. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
On Jan 1, 2009, at 5:28 PM, insightinmind wrote: IMO, If you replaced the suspected bad stick, with one that works for awhile (in the same RAM slot tested with Memtest), then put the suspected bad one back in the same RAM slot, and Memtest fails, I'd say it was a bad stick. Hey, there - I didn't test the good old 256 stick yet - just the suspect 512. It seems better at the moment, no crashes yet (about 15 mins and several programs open). Sometimes fooling around with things gets them to work. I'll check out the PRAM. I thought the PPCs didn't need to do that anymore, that was just the older machines. Guess I stand corrected. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 mailto:earth...@ptd.net http://www.downtoearthweb.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...- addendum PRAM ZAP post RAM upgrade?
On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: I'll check out the PRAM. I thought the PPCs didn't need to do that anymore, that was just the older machines. Guess I stand corrected. The PRAM point appears debatable (and my personal experience shows no need in a Macbook but that's not this list): http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?threadID=54735 http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1051823tstart=855 http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=89736page=4 There's a lot less stored in PRAM in OS X: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1242 The old Apple support document lists virtual RAM and RAM disk and disk cache and 32-bit addressing as being stored in PRAM which hints at the connection to newly installed RAM but the connection to the hardware itself is not clearly stated: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379?viewlocale=en_US --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Clark Martin wrote: What you do need to do when changing memory is push the button to reset the CUDA button on those machines that have it. I don't know off hand which do and don't. Could also just remove battery for a few minutes (Apple suggested 10). Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
On Jan 1, 2009, at 4:35 PM, g3-5-list group wrote: == 1 of 1 == Date: Thurs, Jan 1 2009 1:33 pm From: Anne Keller-Smith Is it time to contact OWC for a replacement or is there something else to do? Oh, right, look in System logs. Hi Anne: I would call OWC, describe what you've done, run through any additional protocol they may have, and they will likely exchange with little or no quibble. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bad RAM Stick? Done them tests ...
From: Anne Keller-Smith Yanked the stick, put old one back in, Mac worked fine for several days. Just reinstalled the stick, made sure well seated, made sure no dust with newly purchased air can. In two minutes, Firefox crashed yet again. That would be enough for me to conclude it is the stick. -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
