Re: Digital Camera Question
On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:30 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2. Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it. How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm that I want to share with family and the local news. I think I've found the correct drivers. You may have been able to find them yourself if you knew how, so I'll tell you exactly how I found them so you may be able to find them for yourself next time: 1) I identified the camera better. To do this I used the #'s you provided 36956 ($905c) for a Google search in order to find the Vendor ID # which you didn't include. Normally you need BOTH a Device ID# and Vendor ID# to identify a piece of hardware. I determined that the Vendor ID was likely 10096 and the Device ID was 36956. 2) Using Calculator.app, under ViewProgrammer with the Dec (decimal) button selected, I inserted each of the decimal IDs and then hit the Hex button to convert them to the more common hexadecimal versions, in your case these would be 0x905c and 0x2770. I then used the search terms 0x905c 0x2770 Macintosh in Google without the quotes. 3) In the Google search results for 0x905c 0x2770 Macintosh the 7th hit was for macam : Support Cameras for which I selected the Cached link to get the search terms highlighted for quicker scanning: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=safarirls=en-usq=0x905c+0x2770+macintoshaq=foq=aqi= 4) The fifth row of the Cached macam : Support Cameras webpages list the camera with your matching hexadecimal Device Vendor IDs and under Status says depends (OEM) which means support isn't provided by Macam, but IS provided by OEM software. In the List of Cameras above the chart, it says of the 773 cameras in the database, 460 work in OS X, of which 401 work with Macam, 18 with OEM supplied drivers (yours appears to be one of these lucky 18, hurrah!). 5) In that 5th row of the Cached macam : Support Cameras webpage where your highlighted camera is located, under the Model row, the any camera with matching IDs is an active link, leading to this page: http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/cameras/camera.php?id=364 Under the row Camera notes: it says: Support for these cameras is proveded by the OEM. For example see: http://www.spectraintl.com/xsp/ss702updates.html BINGO! A link for the OS X driver! 6) Opps! The link is dead. No driver. Plan two. Go to the Internet Archive Wayback Machine at: http://www.archive.org/web/web.php and place the dead link into the Wayback Machine field and hit the Take Me Back button. Bingo! There are eight archived copies of this page representing seven different versions of the page (the asterisk marks pages with changes from the previous archived version, in this case, only one page is identical to a preceding version). You'll want the last (most recent) archived page from Aug 06, 2007: http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xsp/ss702updates.html 7) On the Aug 06, 2007 archive page is a link for the Mac OS10 Driver for SS702 and the OS10 Installation Instructions (pdf). These Wayback Machine archives sometimes don't have the attached files, but if you click these links, you are in luck, the OS X drivers for your camera are archived, and will download if you click the links: http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702%20OS.sit http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702_MAC_OSX_Installation_Guide.pdf There are also OS 9 drivers if you need them. 8) The OS X driver is a Stuffit .sit file, so this means you'll need to have Stuffit installed in order to expand the driver file. Hopefully, this driver file will enable your camera to finally work? I believe this is the third time someone has asked about these cheap cameras, and the first time a download for an actual driver has been located. Normally stuff archived on the Internet Archive never disappear, but I'd grab these drivers and instructions fast just in case. I know this search process to locate these drivers was complex, but now you see the process on how they can be located even when the drivers were deleted from the original website over 2 years ago. Let us know if these drivers work for you. Good luck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at
Re: Digital Camera Question
ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:30 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2. Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it. How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm that I want to share with family and the local news. I think I've found the correct drivers. You may have been able to find them yourself if you knew how, so I'll tell you exactly how I found them so you may be able to find them for yourself next time: 1) I identified the camera better. To do this I used the #'s you provided 36956 ($905c) for a Google search in order to find the Vendor ID # which you didn't include. Normally you need BOTH a Device ID# and Vendor ID# to identify a piece of hardware. I determined that the Vendor ID was likely 10096 and the Device ID was 36956. 2) Using Calculator.app, under ViewProgrammer with the Dec (decimal) button selected, I inserted each of the decimal IDs and then hit the Hex button to convert them to the more common hexadecimal versions, in your case these would be 0x905c and 0x2770. I then used the search terms 0x905c 0x2770 Macintosh in Google without the quotes. 3) In the Google search results for 0x905c 0x2770 Macintosh the 7th hit was for macam : Support Cameras for which I selected the Cached link to get the search terms highlighted for quicker scanning: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=safarirls=en-usq=0x905c+0x2770+macintoshaq=foq=aqi= 4) The fifth row of the Cached macam : Support Cameras webpages list the camera with your matching hexadecimal Device Vendor IDs and under Status says depends (OEM) which means support isn't provided by Macam, but IS provided by OEM software. In the List of Cameras above the chart, it says of the 773 cameras in the database, 460 work in OS X, of which 401 work with Macam, 18 with OEM supplied drivers (yours appears to be one of these lucky 18, hurrah!). 5) In that 5th row of the Cached macam : Support Cameras webpage where your highlighted camera is located, under the Model row, the any camera with matching IDs is an active link, leading to this page: http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/cameras/camera.php?id=364 Under the row Camera notes: it says: Support for these cameras is proveded by the OEM. For example see: http://www.spectraintl.com/xsp/ss702updates.html BINGO! A link for the OS X driver! 6) Opps! The link is dead. No driver. Plan two. Go to the Internet Archive Wayback Machine at: http://www.archive.org/web/web.php and place the dead link into the Wayback Machine field and hit the Take Me Back button. Bingo! There are eight archived copies of this page representing seven different versions of the page (the asterisk marks pages with changes from the previous archived version, in this case, only one page is identical to a preceding version). You'll want the last (most recent) archived page from Aug 06, 2007: http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xsp/ss702updates.html 7) On the Aug 06, 2007 archive page is a link for the Mac OS10 Driver for SS702 and the OS10 Installation Instructions (pdf). These Wayback Machine archives sometimes don't have the attached files, but if you click these links, you are in luck, the OS X drivers for your camera are archived, and will download if you click the links: http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702%20OS.sit http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702_MAC_OSX_Installation_Guide.pdf There are also OS 9 drivers if you need them. 8) The OS X driver is a Stuffit .sit file, so this means you'll need to have Stuffit installed in order to expand the driver file. Hopefully, this driver file will enable your camera to finally work? I believe this is the third time someone has asked about these cheap cameras, and the first time a download for an actual driver has been located. Normally stuff archived on the Internet Archive never disappear, but I'd grab these drivers and instructions fast just in case. I know this search process to locate these drivers was complex, but now you see the process on how they can be located even when the drivers were deleted from the original website over 2 years ago. Let us know if these drivers work for you. Good luck! What a fantastic help! Thanks...and I'm not the one needing them, but I know now to keep the way back machine up front in my mind. And the use of calculator? Who would have thought? Great! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at
Re: Digital Camera Question
On Jul 12, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I do not have the 10.2 CD I only have an earlier one http://theappleblog.com/2008/06/22/reset-os-x-password-without-an-os-x-cd/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---