Re: Sawtooth Original AGP Card Number

2008-10-17 Thread Kris Tilford

On Oct 17, 2008, at 4:46 AM, Simon Royal wrote:

 I have a Sawtooth G4, but someone has put a PCI ATI card in it. I am
 looking to change it for an AGP card, does anyone know the Apple part
 number of the actual card that came with it.

You don't want the OEM card. It's a Rage, very poorly supported in OS  
X, with no QE or CE support. You want at least a Radeon 7000 at  
minimum to get Quartz Extreme enabled (the 7000 costs about the same  
as a Rage). Perhaps a Radeon 9800 Pro or GeForce 6200 if you're going  
to continue with Leopard (these are the only two cards for the  
Sawtooth that support Core Image and Core Video).

Here's an article that says the 9800 Pro will work unmodified with the  
Sawtooth, which is good, normally they require a piece of foil or  
solder to work with this era Mac. The second article is about  
upgrading the Sawtooth.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1675583
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7991298

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Re: Sawtooth Original AGP Card Number

2008-10-17 Thread Simon Royal

Kris

I found a PCI version of the 7000, will this be ok? does it support QE and 
CI?

Simon

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On Oct 17 2008, Kris Tilford wrote:


On Oct 17, 2008, at 4:46 AM, Simon Royal wrote:

 I have a Sawtooth G4, but someone has put a PCI ATI card in it. I am
 looking to change it for an AGP card, does anyone know the Apple part
 number of the actual card that came with it.

You don't want the OEM card. It's a Rage, very poorly supported in OS  
X, with no QE or CE support. You want at least a Radeon 7000 at  
minimum to get Quartz Extreme enabled (the 7000 costs about the same  
as a Rage). Perhaps a Radeon 9800 Pro or GeForce 6200 if you're going  
to continue with Leopard (these are the only two cards for the  
Sawtooth that support Core Image and Core Video).

Here's an article that says the 9800 Pro will work unmodified with the  
Sawtooth, which is good, normally they require a piece of foil or  
solder to work with this era Mac. The second article is about  
upgrading the Sawtooth.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1675583
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7991298





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Re: Sawtooth Original AGP Card Number

2008-10-17 Thread Kris Tilford

On Oct 17, 2008, at 6:02 AM, Simon Royal wrote:

 I found a PCI version of the 7000, will this be ok? does it support  
 QE and CI?

I would support QE using PCI Extreme 3.1 but this PCI card isn't a  
good idea. PCI is HALF as fast as AGPx1, and I think your Sawtooth is  
an AGPx2 slot, so that would make the PCI 7000 about 1/4 the speed of  
the AGP version.

Neither supports Core Image or Core Animation, only the 9800 Pro and  
GeForce 6200 will.


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Sawtooth Original AGP Card Number

2008-10-17 Thread Simon Royal

Hi

I have a Sawtooth G4, but someone has put a PCI ATI card in it. I am 
looking to change it for an AGP card, does anyone know the Apple part 
number of the actual card that came with it.

I have found two so far but not sure which one it is:

Apple 630-2906, Apple 630-2992

Simon

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