Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
Thank you for the response. WHERE can I obtain this disc? (Apple Service Diagnostic 2.5.8) Thanks! Dana On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:56:26 PM UTC-4, DLC wrote: Greetings all. I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz CPUs w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from the list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the motherboard. I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would like to execute the swap-out. Here is my question: once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD and service code to initialize it/them? I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way. Thanks in advance for your advice. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
Hi Andreas, Thank you for the information and response. Very helpful. Where can I obtain such a disc? Most sites that tout a free download isn't such at all (membership fee with no guarantee that I'll get what I need), or outright bogus. Any concrete directions would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Dana On Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:53:57 AM UTC-4, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard Date:Sunday, 07. October 2012 From:DLC dlcat...@gmail.com javascript: To: G-Group g3-5...@googlegroups.com javascript: Greetings all, Still curious about this scenario. Simply, can one swap good G5 CPUs into a replacement motherboard without any problems? Thanks, Dana On Oct 2, 10:56 pm, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all. I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz CPUs w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from the list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the motherboard. I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would like to execute the swap-out. Here is my question: once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD and service code to initialize it/them? I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way. Thanks in advance for your advice. Regards, Dana From what I’ve heard, you will require a Apple Service Diagnostics disc from which you have to boot and to recalibrate the CPUs with the mainboard. If you don’t, you might get very loud fans in the good scenario or burn anything on the mainboard or the CPUs in the bad scenario. But this is just what I heard, not what I know. The thing with the service code to activate them is also something that sounds reasonable to me… For G5s, you need the 2.5.7 ASD discs. For the Late-2005 G5s, the last G5s built, you will require the 2.5.8 ASD discs. You may be able to find a downloadable version, but be aware that Apple never officially made a download available for this. Since Apple abandoned the Power Macs in my sense you can consider it to be Abandonware though. The swap will work if the CPU is the same series. For instance, you will have to use a PowerPC 970 processor for the original G5, a PowerPC 970fx will not work. And I’m pretty sure that for the later models using the PowerPC 970fx processors, a PowerPC 970 will not work. The same goes for the PowerPC 970MP which can only be found in the Late-2005 G5s. The June-2004 has PowerPC 970fx processors. Good luck! Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard Date:Friday, 12. October 2012 From:DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Thank you for the response. WHERE can I obtain this disc? (Apple Service Diagnostic 2.5.8) Thanks! Dana Search the site where you normally find what you shouldn’t normally legally find there… I hope this is not too obscure… It sound something like the signs you read on buildings sometimes: TO RENT (but written differently). Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard Date:Friday, 12. October 2012 From:DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com WHERE can I obtain this disc? (Apple Service Diagnostic 2.5.8) Oh, forgot: for a “June 2004” you’re propably better off with ASD 2.5.7… -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard Date:Monday, 08. October 2012 From:Dana Collins dlcatft...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Hello Andreas, Thank you for the invaluable information. It was very helpful. Let's see if I can find that diagnostics disc, and if not, then I know what to do with the G5. Best regards, Dana This is for the Late-2005 G5s, so it might be a bit different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqENizr_B-w Anyway, once you’ve got the right ASD disc ready, you should be good with the swap. Just a hint: try the ASD disc before you do the swap, so you will see if it boots and works. It has a built-in diagnostics, like AHT (Apple Hardware Test) which might have come on a disc with you Power Mac. So you can diagnose the Mac before you do the swap, just to check 1) the Power Mac and 2) the ASD disc. (But be patient, the diagnosis takes about an hour or more…) Just out of couriosity: what were you going to do with it if you hadn’t found the ASD disc? (Now that you have a link to the ASD discs at hand, you will certainly do the swap allright… so it’s more like a theoretical question…) I’d be happy to hear if it worked out! Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard Date:Sunday, 07. October 2012 From:DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Greetings all, Still curious about this scenario. Simply, can one swap good G5 CPUs into a replacement motherboard without any problems? Thanks, Dana On Oct 2, 10:56 pm, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all. I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz CPUs w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from the list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the motherboard. I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would like to execute the swap-out. Here is my question: once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD and service code to initialize it/them? I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way. Thanks in advance for your advice. Regards, Dana From what I’ve heard, you will require a Apple Service Diagnostics disc from which you have to boot and to recalibrate the CPUs with the mainboard. If you don’t, you might get very loud fans in the good scenario or burn anything on the mainboard or the CPUs in the bad scenario. But this is just what I heard, not what I know. The thing with the service code to activate them is also something that sounds reasonable to me… For G5s, you need the 2.5.7 ASD discs. For the Late-2005 G5s, the last G5s built, you will require the 2.5.8 ASD discs. You may be able to find a downloadable version, but be aware that Apple never officially made a download available for this. Since Apple abandoned the Power Macs in my sense you can consider it to be Abandonware though. The swap will work if the CPU is the same series. For instance, you will have to use a PowerPC 970 processor for the original G5, a PowerPC 970fx will not work. And I’m pretty sure that for the later models using the PowerPC 970fx processors, a PowerPC 970 will not work. The same goes for the PowerPC 970MP which can only be found in the Late-2005 G5s. The June-2004 has PowerPC 970fx processors. Good luck! Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
Hello Andreas, Thank you for the invaluable information. It was very helpful. Let's see if I can find that diagnostics disc, and if not, then I know what to do with the G5. Best regards, Dana (iPad-sent) On Oct 7, 2012, at 2:53 AM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard Date:Sunday, 07. October 2012 From:DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Greetings all, Still curious about this scenario. Simply, can one swap good G5 CPUs into a replacement motherboard without any problems? Thanks, Dana On Oct 2, 10:56 pm, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all. I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz CPUs w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from the list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the motherboard. I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would like to execute the swap-out. Here is my question: once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD and service code to initialize it/them? I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way. Thanks in advance for your advice. Regards, Dana From what I’ve heard, you will require a Apple Service Diagnostics disc from which you have to boot and to recalibrate the CPUs with the mainboard. If you don’t, you might get very loud fans in the good scenario or burn anything on the mainboard or the CPUs in the bad scenario. But this is just what I heard, not what I know. The thing with the service code to activate them is also something that sounds reasonable to me… For G5s, you need the 2.5.7 ASD discs. For the Late-2005 G5s, the last G5s built, you will require the 2.5.8 ASD discs. You may be able to find a downloadable version, but be aware that Apple never officially made a download available for this. Since Apple abandoned the Power Macs in my sense you can consider it to be Abandonware though. The swap will work if the CPU is the same series. For instance, you will have to use a PowerPC 970 processor for the original G5, a PowerPC 970fx will not work. And I’m pretty sure that for the later models using the PowerPC 970fx processors, a PowerPC 970 will not work. The same goes for the PowerPC 970MP which can only be found in the Late-2005 G5s. The June-2004 has PowerPC 970fx processors. Good luck! Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
On Oct 8, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Dana Collins wrote: Let's see if I can find that diagnostics disc http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6481595/Apple_Service_Diagnostic_Disks_25_GB_[Original]__ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
Greetings all, Still curious about this scenario. Simply, can one swap good G5 CPUs into a replacement motherboard without any problems? Thanks, Dana On Oct 2, 10:56 pm, DLC dlcatft...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all. I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz CPUs w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from the list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the motherboard. I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would like to execute the swap-out. Here is my question: once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD and service code to initialize it/them? I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way. Thanks in advance for your advice. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Swapping out a G5 Motherboard
Greetings all. I while back I had a troublesome G5 tower (June 04 model Dual 1.8GHz CPUs w/PCI slots, 8x AGP) that was giving me boot-up issues. With help from the list, I pretty much determined that I needed to replace the motherboard. I've located a reasonably priced replacement, so I would like to execute the swap-out. Here is my question: once I plug in the known-good CPUs into the motherboard, am I going to have to execute the CU provisioning that requires the special boot CD and service code to initialize it/them? I'd hate to expend resources and time just to find out the hard way. Thanks in advance for your advice. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
