Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac

2010-02-18 Thread Kasey Smith


On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote:


Excel will also do databases besides spreadsheets. So I
was hoping that the same would be true with iWork.


I didn't know that, thats what i thought Access was for :\


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Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac

2010-02-18 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Kasey Smith wrote:



On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote:


Excel will also do databases besides spreadsheets. So I
was hoping that the same would be true with iWork.


I didn't know that, thats what i thought Access was for :\


No, Access is for CORRUPTING your databases, silly! 8-)

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Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac

2010-02-18 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Feb 18, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Kasey Smith wrote:


l will also do databases besides spreadsheets. So I
was hoping that the same would be true with iWork.


I didn't know that, thats what i thought Access was for :\


No, Access is for CORRUPTING your databases, silly! 8-)


Lol, still i didn't know that Excel did databases. Last time I used  
MS Office was a few years ago before I found OpenOffice (on Windows  
*ducks*) Before going to OO i was using Office 2000.



Excel will open individual Access tables, I'd have to dig through the  
converters list to see if it'll open Appleworks database tables. OO  
(presuming it's v 3 or higher) actually has a real SQL database module.


http://hsqldb.org/

Actually a pretty cool little DBMS.


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Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac

2010-02-17 Thread Dan

Please do NOT cross-post to multiple groups.

At 1:33 AM + 2/17/2010, janespra...@comcast.net wrote:
I am helping a friend to set up a new iMac from a G4 iBook. She has 
been using Appleworks to create databases. The most important ones 
she needs are the database files ending in .cwk. She bought iWorks 
09 and I installed it on the iMac. iWorks will NOT open the files!


I'm not sure why you would think that iWorks would open such?

iWorks = Pages (word processing) + Numbers (spreadsheet).  But you're 
trying to tell it to open a *database* file.  That's kindof like 
trying to slap a 747's fuselage onto a VW Bug.


Apple's modern solution for databases is to use Bento.


1. Will Appleworks work on an Intel iMac? (which would be the simplest thing!)


Certainly!  And that's your best solution.


2. Is there another program that will open a .cwk file?


No.  It's a proprietary format file.  The only thing you can do wrt 
migration is to save the database in some other format, then import 
that into an appropriate app.


At 6:10 PM -0800 2/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote:

I wonder why Apple doesn't want folks to use it?


AppleWorks was written against the early Mac OS, then upgraded to 
sortof run on OS X.  Its code base is a mess, and barely supports 
Carbon (the API created for the transition from Classic to OS X). 
Modern Mac OS X apps must be Cocoa-based tho!  Apple felt that the 
right thing to do would be to re-write from the ground up, hence 
Pages and Numbers (iWork).


iWork is OK if it's your first rodeo but us old timers have too many 
files and hours in them to scrap for the new kid on the block.


Yea.  Apple has really dropped the ball here.  Except for a few 
features, Pages and Numbers are a joke compared to even AppleWorks 5. 
And that doesn't even begin to account for the other components of 
AppleWorks - database, paint,  draw.


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Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac

2010-02-17 Thread Jane, (Portland, OR)
On Feb 17, 7:57 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 1:33 AM
+ 2/17/2010, janespra...@comcast.net wrote:

 I am helping a friend to set up a new iMac from a G4 iBook. She has
 been using Appleworks to create databases. The most important ones
 she needs are the database files ending in .cwk. She bought iWorks
 09 and I installed it on the iMac. iWorks will NOT open the files!

 I'm not sure why you would think that iWorks would open such?

 iWorks = Pages (word processing) + Numbers (spreadsheet).  But you're
 trying to tell it to open a *database* file.  That's kindof like
 trying to slap a 747's fuselage onto a VW Bug.

 Apple's modern solution for databases is to use Bento.

 1. Will Appleworks work on an Intel iMac? (which would be the simplest 
 thing!)

 Certainly!  And that's your best solution.

 2. Is there another program that will open a .cwk file?

 No.  It's a proprietary format file.  The only thing you can do wrt
 migration is to save the database in some other format, then import
 that into an appropriate app.


I thought iWork would work with Appleworks files because the Apple guy
said it would! Excel will also do databases besides spreadsheets. So I
was hoping that the same would be true with iWork.

I did a save as for the .cwk file and the choices for translating
into other file types is very limited. None could be opened by Office
or iWork. Happy to say, though, Appleworks has been installed on the
new iMac and is working! Thanks for all the suggestions.

Jane

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Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac

2010-02-16 Thread janesprando
I am helping a friend to set up a new iMac from a G4 iBook. She has been using 
Appleworks to create databases. The most important ones she needs are the 
database files ending in .cwk. She bought iWorks 09 and I installed it on the 
iMac. iWorks will NOT open the files! I had her email a file to me, since I 
have MacLink Plus, and Office 2001, 2004, 2008. None of these will open the 
file! 

1. Will Appleworks work on an Intel iMac? (which would be the simplest thing!) 

2. Is there another program that will open a .cwk file? 

Jane 


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Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac

2010-02-16 Thread John Carmonne

On Feb 16, 2010, at 5:33 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote:

 I am helping a friend to set up a new iMac from a G4 iBook. She has been 
 using Appleworks to create databases. The most important ones she needs are 
 the database files ending in .cwk. She bought iWorks 09 and I installed it on 
 the iMac. iWorks will NOT open the files! I had her email a file to me, since 
 I have MacLink Plus, and Office 2001, 2004, 2008. None of these will open the 
 file!
 
 1. Will Appleworks work on an Intel iMac? (which would be the simplest thing!)
 
 2. Is there another program that will open a .cwk file?
 
 Jane
 

I am using AppleWorks 6 on my Intel MBP 2.4 10.6.2 Snow Leopard. I never leave 
home with out AppleWoks  0n a stick in my pocket.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA



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RE: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac

2010-02-16 Thread Stewie de Young







I am helping a friend to set up a new iMac from a G4 iBook. She has been using 
Appleworks to create databases. The most important ones she needs are the 
database files ending in .cwk. She bought iWorks 09 and I installed it on the 
iMac. iWorks will NOT open the files! I had her email a file to me, since I 
have MacLink Plus, and Office 2001, 2004, 2008. None of these will open the 
file!

1. Will Appleworks work on an Intel iMac? (which would be the simplest thing!)

2. Is there another program that will open a .cwk file?

Jane





I'm pretty sure older versions of Excel like '98 and 2001 won't ( I recall 
doing something like this myself about six years ago) but I'm unsure of 2004 
and up. You have to modify it first at the Appleworks end.

Open your Appleworks spreadsheet, use the mouse to
highlight all of the cells you wish to transfer to Excel. You can then
copy the selection and paste it into a blank Excel Workbook. You would 
obviously have to do this on the older computer first.
You
can open your Appleworks spreadsheet and choose SAVE AS… in the FILE
FORMAT menu choose Excel MAC 98, 2001 document. Be sure to add the .xls
after the filename. Once again you would have to do this on the older computer 
first then transfer the file to the new iMac .
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Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac

2010-02-16 Thread John Carmonne

On Feb 16, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Stewie de Young wrote:

 
 
 
 
 I am helping a friend to set up a new iMac from a G4 iBook. She has been 
 using Appleworks to create databases. The most important ones she needs are 
 the database files ending in .cwk. She bought iWorks 09 and I installed it on 
 the iMac. iWorks will NOT open the files! I had her email a file to me, since 
 I have MacLink Plus, and Office 2001, 2004, 2008. None of these will open the 
 file!
 
 1. Will Appleworks work on an Intel iMac? (which would be the simplest thing!)
 
 2. Is there another program that will open a .cwk file?
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 I'm pretty sure older versions of Excel like '98 and 2001 won't ( I recall 
 doing something like this myself about six years ago) but I'm unsure of 2004 
 and up. You have to modify it first at the Appleworks end.
 
   • Open your Appleworks spreadsheet, use the mouse to highlight all of the 
 cells you wish to transfer to Excel. You can then copy the selection and 
 paste it into a blank Excel Workbook. You would obviously have to do this on 
 the older computer first.
   • You can open your Appleworks spreadsheet and choose SAVE AS… in the FILE 
 FORMAT menu choose Excel MAC 98, 2001 document. Be sure to add the .xls after 
 the filename. Once again you would have to do this on the older computer 
 first then transfer the file to the new iMac .
 
 Stewie
 
 Duh I've got Appleworks 6 on 22 machines from a Wallstreet OS 8.6  to a 
MacBook Pro 10.6.2 and every thing in between. I wonder why Apple doesn't want 
folks to use it? iWork is OK
if it's your first rodeo but us old timers have too many files and hours in 
them to scrap for the new kid on the block. That's what  Windbloze does with 
their stuff. But that's just me:-)


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA



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Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac

2010-02-16 Thread Richard Smallwood

Drag the .cwk file and drop it on the (unopened) Numbers.app.
Richard
On 16 Feb 2010, at 7:33 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote:

I am helping a friend to set up a new iMac from a G4 iBook. She has  
been using Appleworks to create databases. The most important ones  
she needs are the database files ending in .cwk. She bought iWorks  
09 and I installed it on the iMac. iWorks will NOT open the files!  
I had her email a file to me, since I have MacLink Plus, and Office  
2001, 2004, 2008. None of these will open the file!


1. Will Appleworks work on an Intel iMac? (which would be the  
simplest thing!)


2. Is there another program that will open a .cwk file?

Jane


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Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac

2010-02-16 Thread John Carmonne

On Feb 16, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Richard Smallwood wrote:

 Drag the .cwk file and drop it on the (unopened) Numbers.app.
 Richard
 On 16 Feb 2010, at 7:33 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I am helping a friend to set up a new iMac from a G4 iBook. She has been 
 using Appleworks to create databases. The most important ones she needs are 
 the database files ending in .cwk. She bought iWorks 09 and I installed it 
 on the iMac. iWorks will NOT open the files! I had her email a file to me, 
 since I have MacLink Plus, and Office 2001, 2004, 2008. None of these will 
 open the file!
 
 1. Will Appleworks work on an Intel iMac? (which would be the simplest 
 thing!)
 
 2. Is there another program that will open a .cwk file?
 
 Jane



Thanks for the tip however I just tried it and my spread sheet comes up with 
empty cells not viable, that's why I keep Appleworks, I don't have time to do 
voodoo type transformations.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA



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